Anonymous wrote:My child stopped year round swim for multiple new sports. This summer on swim team, not one year round swimmer talked to my daughter. Not at the meets or rec pool time. It was tough for my daughter (10) but she found new friends. I got the “on we missed Larla this winter, hope her times are still high” from the year round moms. I don’t care because those moms always sucked and I was never friends with them. So I just smiled and said none of us care what her times are. She just likes swimming - and walked away.
OP, your first mistake was thinking these moms were your friends. Second was allowing your child to learn to follow this group around. She isn’t wanted. Teach her self respect and move on. It’s sucks but it will make her stronger in the end.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
DD is a super sensitive kid, who wears her heart on her sleeve. She gets upset easily, which perhaps make her an easy target for the meanness. She can also be very dramatic. But she is kind, funny and a very loyal friend. This is so hard.
This might be the root of it. It’s certainly possible that these girls are being mean, and also that the reason is that your daughter is a high maintenance friend. If she’s always causing drama, eventually it becomes easier to not include her. She will eventually mature past this, but I suspect this is what’s going on and this would also explain why your mom friends don’t know what to say to you. Most parents don’t want to hear negatives about their child, or hear they are annoying to others.
This. It sounds like they're tiring of her because she's high maintenance. You can work with her on managing her emotions and not being over-sensitive or dramatic.
I'd back off spending time with these girls, diversify the friend group, and focus on social skills. Maybe she can circle back to these kids when they have all had some time to mature.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
DD is a super sensitive kid, who wears her heart on her sleeve. She gets upset easily, which perhaps make her an easy target for the meanness. She can also be very dramatic. But she is kind, funny and a very loyal friend. This is so hard.
This might be the root of it. It’s certainly possible that these girls are being mean, and also that the reason is that your daughter is a high maintenance friend. If she’s always causing drama, eventually it becomes easier to not include her. She will eventually mature past this, but I suspect this is what’s going on and this would also explain why your mom friends don’t know what to say to you. Most parents don’t want to hear negatives about their child, or hear they are annoying to others.
This. It sounds like they're tiring of her because she's high maintenance. You can work with her on managing her emotions and not being over-sensitive or dramatic.
I'd back off spending time with these girls, diversify the friend group, and focus on social skills. Maybe she can circle back to these kids when they have all had some time to mature.
You clearly have no idea what gaslighting is.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
DD is a super sensitive kid, who wears her heart on her sleeve. She gets upset easily, which perhaps make her an easy target for the meanness. She can also be very dramatic. But she is kind, funny and a very loyal friend. This is so hard.
This might be the root of it. It’s certainly possible that these girls are being mean, and also that the reason is that your daughter is a high maintenance friend. If she’s always causing drama, eventually it becomes easier to not include her. She will eventually mature past this, but I suspect this is what’s going on and this would also explain why your mom friends don’t know what to say to you. Most parents don’t want to hear negatives about their child, or hear they are annoying to others.
This. It sounds like they're tiring of her because she's high maintenance. You can work with her on managing her emotions and not being over-sensitive or dramatic.
I'd back off spending time with these girls, diversify the friend group, and focus on social skills. Maybe she can circle back to these kids when they have all had some time to mature.
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks for the advice and BTDT on this thread. I really appreciate people taking a few minutes to share their kids' experiences.
To be clear, my priority is no way my friendships with these girls' parents. I have plenty of friends from other areas of life (work, grad school, neighbors). But is it really that unusual to become friends with some of the parents of your kids' friends? Our kids chose to be friends on their own (in no way social engineered) and I have spent hours upon hours with these people on the sidelines of games, at BBQs, school events. That evolved into adult dinners, parties, even travel. My questions was whether I should reach out to find out more about what is going on, again not applying pressure to include DD, just to better understand the source of the problem. Most of the responses have been a resounding no to this.
DD is not at a super small private, and it expands this year and in 7th, so seeking out friendships with some new kids is a really good idea. She does tend to be dramatic, and maybe that is a turn off to some of these friends. But the hurt she is feeling is real, and I've see with my own eyes the overt meanness on multiple occasions, so she is no way making this up in her head.
Thanks again for some of the tangible advice provided about how to help DD develop a thicker skin and become more resilient.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Your post is way too long to read.
I am going to guess you micro engineered friendships when they were little. They are now not working out as they can do their own things and interests more in middle school, and your feelings are hurt and you are trying to keep them all together.
Tell your kid to find friends that want to be with her and make her happy. That is it. The End.
This should be the last day you are ever involved in your middle schoolers friendships. Cut the umbilical cord
This. Plus you knew this could happen or heard about it happening but believed it wouldn't happen to you.
Part of your upset is you are realizing that your social life is going to be effected and you enjoyed your social life and don't want it to change. You liked hanging out with those moms and you do feel mad because you thought because you were friends with them that meant that all your kids would remain friends.
Part of the upset is realizing that your child isn't going to be part of the in group and you will have to watch from the outside.
It is going to be ok. And if the school is really small, consider whether your desire to not move her is about her academics or is it about you don't want the other moms to talk about you or have it look like to other moms you guys couldn't deal. Neither are true but if you were that enmeshed before it might be clouding your judgement.
Making friends outside school is a good idea but keep in mind your DD will spend most of her time at school so it's hard not to have any friends there. I think it depends on whether there are other kids she could be friends with or if the school is so small there really isn't.
It's not microengineering to be friends with people in a group with common interests. JFC what planet are you from? People do this all the time being kids in groups together (e.g., scouts), in the same school/class, same sports team, same neighborhood. And nor is it wrong to, based on those interactions, think these were your kids and your friends. Finally, OP is entirely valid in her feelings that her own friendships will likely be affected.
None of that is microengineering. That is how social groups interact all the time. It happens here. In the midwest where i grew up. It happens everywhere. So quit labeling it like it's some helicopter parenting situation.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
DD is a super sensitive kid, who wears her heart on her sleeve. She gets upset easily, which perhaps make her an easy target for the meanness. She can also be very dramatic. But she is kind, funny and a very loyal friend. This is so hard.
This might be the root of it. It’s certainly possible that these girls are being mean, and also that the reason is that your daughter is a high maintenance friend. If she’s always causing drama, eventually it becomes easier to not include her. She will eventually mature past this, but I suspect this is what’s going on and this would also explain why your mom friends don’t know what to say to you. Most parents don’t want to hear negatives about their child, or hear they are annoying to others.
This. It sounds like they're tiring of her because she's high maintenance. You can work with her on managing her emotions and not being over-sensitive or dramatic.
I'd back off spending time with these girls, diversify the friend group, and focus on social skills. Maybe she can circle back to these kids when they have all had some time to mature.