Anonymous wrote:I also wonder if AP and Honors being default for our middle of the road or better kids isn't driving these policies? APs and Honors used to be for exceptional learners. These are the kids who can typically handle these stressors. Maybe there are more stressed out kids now, in part, because we are forcing them into unnecessarily stressful situations for the sake of our pride or "college admissions" or to keep up with the neighbors' kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Is grading policy on the next BOE meeting agenda? Wouldn't the members need to vote on this?

When did the BOE vote that the retake grade didn’t replace the original grade if the original grade was higher? Because that is a new policy this year and I don’t remember the BOE ever discussing it.

OP has a misleading title. There is no proposed change to grading Policies, which would go through an entire committee review and public comment period, before the BOE votes on it.

What OP is sharing is a rumor that the guidance for implementing the policies may change. This has nitty gritty details that are intended to ensure uniform practices across MCPS and became necessary to describe in detail during the pandemic. You can find the guidance here:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/grading/report-cards-secondary.aspx

Thanks, PP. I'm so tired of these fictions from crazy right-wing MCPS board trolls just sowing public resentment and mistrust.

This is clearly just a troll since there's no such item on the board's agenda next month.

Agree but the funny part is I think the changes are reasonable. Basically giving students a practice test so they know what to expect and setting an upper boundary on assignments that results in no more than one assignment per day over a quarter seems great. Still sure this is all fiction so it doesn't matter.

Isn’t that what quizzes were for? A practice before the test.

Unless the assessment is returned to the student, no matter what title you give the assessment, the student is not receiving feedback necessary on the practice. Students need an opportunity to learn from their mistakes.

This may make sense for classes like math or chem where applying formulas takes rote practice and seeing the error of your ways is very beneficial and should be mastered for progression. But for art or english or history or sociology...you either showed up and read and engaged or you didn't. (Yes, sometimes we have quizzes and tests, too.) I am not writing two tests to pander to people who didn't study. Especially when I provide a study guide. Especially[i] when my tests are open note/book.

Are the retakes new tests or are students given the original one again? Or does it vary by teacher?

You people are so dumb. This is fiction made up to get you worked into a lather. THERE IS NO SUCH POLICY.

Retakes are already occurring.

This! People are quick to call troll, but they have no clue how their child is graded. Last year, the rule was still that a student could retake something once and the second attempt was the final grade. This year, a student can take something multiple times and the grade that “sticks” is whatever is highest.

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Anonymous wrote:Is grading policy on the next BOE meeting agenda? Wouldn't the members need to vote on this?

When did the BOE vote that the retake grade didn’t replace the original grade if the original grade was higher? Because that is a new policy this year and I don’t remember the BOE ever discussing it.

OP has a misleading title. There is no proposed change to grading Policies, which would go through an entire committee review and public comment period, before the BOE votes on it.

What OP is sharing is a rumor that the guidance for implementing the policies may change. This has nitty gritty details that are intended to ensure uniform practices across MCPS and became necessary to describe in detail during the pandemic. You can find the guidance here:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/grading/report-cards-secondary.aspx

Thanks, PP. I'm so tired of these fictions from crazy right-wing MCPS board trolls just sowing public resentment and mistrust.

This is clearly just a troll since there's no such item on the board's agenda next month.

Agree but the funny part is I think the changes are reasonable. Basically giving students a practice test so they know what to expect and setting an upper boundary on assignments that results in no more than one assignment per day over a quarter seems great. Still sure this is all fiction so it doesn't matter.

Isn’t that what quizzes were for? A practice before the test.

Unless the assessment is returned to the student, no matter what title you give the assessment, the student is not receiving feedback necessary on the practice. Students need an opportunity to learn from their mistakes.

This may make sense for classes like math or chem where applying formulas takes rote practice and seeing the error of your ways is very beneficial and should be mastered for progression. But for art or english or history or sociology...you either showed up and read and engaged or you didn't. (Yes, sometimes we have quizzes and tests, too.) I am not writing two tests to pander to people who didn't study. Especially when I provide a study guide. Especially[i] when my tests are open note/book.

Are the retakes new tests or are students given the original one again? Or does it vary by teacher?

You people are so dumb. This is fiction made up to get you worked into a lather. THERE IS NO SUCH POLICY.

Retakes are already occurring.

If the teacher thinks that offering retakes is effective, then why not allow the teacher to offer retakes?

I think the Board of Education lost the yardstick to measure actual progress when they ended giving final exams. Without exams, students study for the individual tests but do not retain information after the test.

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Anonymous wrote:Is grading policy on the next BOE meeting agenda? Wouldn't the members need to vote on this?

When did the BOE vote that the retake grade didn’t replace the original grade if the original grade was higher? Because that is a new policy this year and I don’t remember the BOE ever discussing it.

OP has a misleading title. There is no proposed change to grading Policies, which would go through an entire committee review and public comment period, before the BOE votes on it.

What OP is sharing is a rumor that the guidance for implementing the policies may change. This has nitty gritty details that are intended to ensure uniform practices across MCPS and became necessary to describe in detail during the pandemic. You can find the guidance here:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/grading/report-cards-secondary.aspx

Thanks, PP. I'm so tired of these fictions from crazy right-wing MCPS board trolls just sowing public resentment and mistrust.

This is clearly just a troll since there's no such item on the board's agenda next month.

Agree but the funny part is I think the changes are reasonable. Basically giving students a practice test so they know what to expect and setting an upper boundary on assignments that results in no more than one assignment per day over a quarter seems great. Still sure this is all fiction so it doesn't matter.

Isn’t that what quizzes were for? A practice before the test.

Unless the assessment is returned to the student, no matter what title you give the assessment, the student is not receiving feedback necessary on the practice. Students need an opportunity to learn from their mistakes.

This may make sense for classes like math or chem where applying formulas takes rote practice and seeing the error of your ways is very beneficial and should be mastered for progression. But for art or english or history or sociology...you either showed up and read and engaged or you didn't. (Yes, sometimes we have quizzes and tests, too.) I am not writing two tests to pander to people who didn't study. Especially when I provide a study guide. Especially[i] when my tests are open note/book.

Are the retakes new tests or are students given the original one again? Or does it vary by teacher?

You people are so dumb. This is fiction made up to get you worked into a lather. THERE IS NO SUCH POLICY.

Retakes are already occurring.

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Anonymous wrote:Is grading policy on the next BOE meeting agenda? Wouldn't the members need to vote on this?

When did the BOE vote that the retake grade didn’t replace the original grade if the original grade was higher? Because that is a new policy this year and I don’t remember the BOE ever discussing it.

OP has a misleading title. There is no proposed change to grading Policies, which would go through an entire committee review and public comment period, before the BOE votes on it.

What OP is sharing is a rumor that the guidance for implementing the policies may change. This has nitty gritty details that are intended to ensure uniform practices across MCPS and became necessary to describe in detail during the pandemic. You can find the guidance here:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/grading/report-cards-secondary.aspx

Thanks, PP. I'm so tired of these fictions from crazy right-wing MCPS board trolls just sowing public resentment and mistrust.

This is clearly just a troll since there's no such item on the board's agenda next month.

Agree but the funny part is I think the changes are reasonable. Basically giving students a practice test so they know what to expect and setting an upper boundary on assignments that results in no more than one assignment per day over a quarter seems great. Still sure this is all fiction so it doesn't matter.

Isn’t that what quizzes were for? A practice before the test.

Unless the assessment is returned to the student, no matter what title you give the assessment, the student is not receiving feedback necessary on the practice. Students need an opportunity to learn from their mistakes.

This may make sense for classes like math or chem where applying formulas takes rote practice and seeing the error of your ways is very beneficial and should be mastered for progression. But for art or english or history or sociology...you either showed up and read and engaged or you didn't. (Yes, sometimes we have quizzes and tests, too.) I am not writing two tests to pander to people who didn't study. Especially when I provide a study guide. Especially[i] when my tests are open note/book.

Are the retakes new tests or are students given the original one again? Or does it vary by teacher?

You people are so dumb. This is fiction made up to get you worked into a lather. THERE IS NO SUCH POLICY.

Retakes are already occurring.

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Anonymous wrote:Is grading policy on the next BOE meeting agenda? Wouldn't the members need to vote on this?

When did the BOE vote that the retake grade didn’t replace the original grade if the original grade was higher? Because that is a new policy this year and I don’t remember the BOE ever discussing it.

OP has a misleading title. There is no proposed change to grading Policies, which would go through an entire committee review and public comment period, before the BOE votes on it.

What OP is sharing is a rumor that the guidance for implementing the policies may change. This has nitty gritty details that are intended to ensure uniform practices across MCPS and became necessary to describe in detail during the pandemic. You can find the guidance here:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/grading/report-cards-secondary.aspx

Thanks, PP. I'm so tired of these fictions from crazy right-wing MCPS board trolls just sowing public resentment and mistrust.

This is clearly just a troll since there's no such item on the board's agenda next month.

Agree but the funny part is I think the changes are reasonable. Basically giving students a practice test so they know what to expect and setting an upper boundary on assignments that results in no more than one assignment per day over a quarter seems great. Still sure this is all fiction so it doesn't matter.

Isn’t that what quizzes were for? A practice before the test.

Unless the assessment is returned to the student, no matter what title you give the assessment, the student is not receiving feedback necessary on the practice. Students need an opportunity to learn from their mistakes.

This may make sense for classes like math or chem where applying formulas takes rote practice and seeing the error of your ways is very beneficial and should be mastered for progression. But for art or english or history or sociology...you either showed up and read and engaged or you didn't. (Yes, sometimes we have quizzes and tests, too.) I am not writing two tests to pander to people who didn't study. Especially when I provide a study guide. Especially[i] when my tests are open note/book.

Are the retakes new tests or are students given the original one again? Or does it vary by teacher?

You people are so dumb. This is fiction made up to get you worked into a lather. THERE IS NO SUCH POLICY.

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Anonymous wrote:Is grading policy on the next BOE meeting agenda? Wouldn't the members need to vote on this?

When did the BOE vote that the retake grade didn’t replace the original grade if the original grade was higher? Because that is a new policy this year and I don’t remember the BOE ever discussing it.

OP has a misleading title. There is no proposed change to grading Policies, which would go through an entire committee review and public comment period, before the BOE votes on it.

What OP is sharing is a rumor that the guidance for implementing the policies may change. This has nitty gritty details that are intended to ensure uniform practices across MCPS and became necessary to describe in detail during the pandemic. You can find the guidance here:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/grading/report-cards-secondary.aspx

Thanks, PP. I'm so tired of these fictions from crazy right-wing MCPS board trolls just sowing public resentment and mistrust.

This is clearly just a troll since there's no such item on the board's agenda next month.

Agree but the funny part is I think the changes are reasonable. Basically giving students a practice test so they know what to expect and setting an upper boundary on assignments that results in no more than one assignment per day over a quarter seems great. Still sure this is all fiction so it doesn't matter.

Isn’t that what quizzes were for? A practice before the test.

Unless the assessment is returned to the student, no matter what title you give the assessment, the student is not receiving feedback necessary on the practice. Students need an opportunity to learn from their mistakes.

This may make sense for classes like math or chem where applying formulas takes rote practice and seeing the error of your ways is very beneficial and should be mastered for progression. But for art or english or history or sociology...you either showed up and read and engaged or you didn't. (Yes, sometimes we have quizzes and tests, too.) I am not writing two tests to pander to people who didn't study. Especially when I provide a study guide. Especially[i] when my tests are open note/book.

Are the retakes new tests or are students given the original one again? Or does it vary by teacher?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a secondary teacher and haven’t been told about any of these changes. I’m new to MCPS and hate the grading system. I would prefer to flip the practice/prep and all tasks. I give weekly all tasks grades and daily practice prep grades so how would I fit into these new guidelines?

You won’t be able to keep the daily grades. You could keep all but one weekly grade. TBH, I can see how a daily grade might make some students feel overwhelmed.

I enter the daily grade weekly. They can earn up to 3 points a day so for a 5 day week it’s 15 points. That’s 9 practice/prep grades per marking period. Doesn’t count worksheets or other practice assignments I would give during the marking period. I do weekly assessments on the day my principal has assigned for my content area. That’s 9 grades in the All Tasks category for the grading period.

When I missed over 10 days for COVID this fall, I gave students a practice/prep grade each day for each assignment they did with subs. Otherwise, students would have been off the chain acting like they could do whatever they wanted while I was gone.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a secondary teacher and haven’t been told about any of these changes. I’m new to MCPS and hate the grading system. I would prefer to flip the practice/prep and all tasks. I give weekly all tasks grades and daily practice prep grades so how would I fit into these new guidelines?

You won’t be able to keep the daily grades. You could keep all but one weekly grade. TBH, I can see how a daily grade might make some students feel overwhelmed.

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Anonymous wrote:Is grading policy on the next BOE meeting agenda? Wouldn't the members need to vote on this?

When did the BOE vote that the retake grade didn’t replace the original grade if the original grade was higher? Because that is a new policy this year and I don’t remember the BOE ever discussing it.

OP has a misleading title. There is no proposed change to grading Policies, which would go through an entire committee review and public comment period, before the BOE votes on it.

What OP is sharing is a rumor that the guidance for implementing the policies may change. This has nitty gritty details that are intended to ensure uniform practices across MCPS and became necessary to describe in detail during the pandemic. You can find the guidance here:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/grading/report-cards-secondary.aspx

Thanks, PP. I'm so tired of these fictions from crazy right-wing MCPS board trolls just sowing public resentment and mistrust.

This is clearly just a troll since there's no such item on the board's agenda next month.

Agree but the funny part is I think the changes are reasonable. Basically giving students a practice test so they know what to expect and setting an upper boundary on assignments that results in no more than one assignment per day over a quarter seems great. Still sure this is all fiction so it doesn't matter.

Isn’t that what quizzes were for? A practice before the test.

Unless the assessment is returned to the student, no matter what title you give the assessment, the student is not receiving feedback necessary on the practice. Students need an opportunity to learn from their mistakes.

This may make sense for classes like math or chem where applying formulas takes rote practice and seeing the error of your ways is very beneficial and should be mastered for progression. But for art or english or history or sociology...you either showed up and read and engaged or you didn't. (Yes, sometimes we have quizzes and tests, too.) I am not writing two tests to pander to people who didn't study. Especially when I provide a study guide. Especially[i] when my tests are open note/book.

For English, social studies, and sociology - students still need feedback. There are many reasons why a student doesn’t learn a concept.

Feedback is not the same thing as seeing what answers you got wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Is grading policy on the next BOE meeting agenda? Wouldn't the members need to vote on this?

When did the BOE vote that the retake grade didn’t replace the original grade if the original grade was higher? Because that is a new policy this year and I don’t remember the BOE ever discussing it.

OP has a misleading title. There is no proposed change to grading Policies, which would go through an entire committee review and public comment period, before the BOE votes on it.

What OP is sharing is a rumor that the guidance for implementing the policies may change. This has nitty gritty details that are intended to ensure uniform practices across MCPS and became necessary to describe in detail during the pandemic. You can find the guidance here:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/grading/report-cards-secondary.aspx

Thanks, PP. I'm so tired of these fictions from crazy right-wing MCPS board trolls just sowing public resentment and mistrust.

This is clearly just a troll since there's no such item on the board's agenda next month.

Agree but the funny part is I think the changes are reasonable. Basically giving students a practice test so they know what to expect and setting an upper boundary on assignments that results in no more than one assignment per day over a quarter seems great. Still sure this is all fiction so it doesn't matter.

Isn’t that what quizzes were for? A practice before the test.

Unless the assessment is returned to the student, no matter what title you give the assessment, the student is not receiving feedback necessary on the practice. Students need an opportunity to learn from their mistakes.

This may make sense for classes like math or chem where applying formulas takes rote practice and seeing the error of your ways is very beneficial and should be mastered for progression. But for art or english or history or sociology...you either showed up and read and engaged or you didn't. (Yes, sometimes we have quizzes and tests, too.) I am not writing two tests to pander to people who didn't study. Especially when I provide a study guide. Especially[i] when my tests are open note/book.

For English, social studies, and sociology - students still need feedback. There are many reasons why a student doesn’t learn a concept.

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers have to meet the needs of 30+ students per class and there are a variety of courses every student takes per year. Why does the Board of Education want to second guess the professionals hired by the school system and create rigidity when it may not always fit the situation? Leave it up to teachers and their teams within a school. They know the students and curriculum the best.

This isn't anything the BOE is doing. There is no change to the Policy. These are internal guidelines being worked on by the directors in central office.

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Anonymous wrote:Is grading policy on the next BOE meeting agenda? Wouldn't the members need to vote on this?

When did the BOE vote that the retake grade didn’t replace the original grade if the original grade was higher? Because that is a new policy this year and I don’t remember the BOE ever discussing it.

OP has a misleading title. There is no proposed change to grading Policies, which would go through an entire committee review and public comment period, before the BOE votes on it.

What OP is sharing is a rumor that the guidance for implementing the policies may change. This has nitty gritty details that are intended to ensure uniform practices across MCPS and became necessary to describe in detail during the pandemic. You can find the guidance here:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/grading/report-cards-secondary.aspx

Thanks, PP. I'm so tired of these fictions from crazy right-wing MCPS board trolls just sowing public resentment and mistrust.

This is clearly just a troll since there's no such item on the board's agenda next month.

Agree but the funny part is I think the changes are reasonable. Basically giving students a practice test so they know what to expect and setting an upper boundary on assignments that results in no more than one assignment per day over a quarter seems great. Still sure this is all fiction so it doesn't matter.

Isn’t that what quizzes were for? A practice before the test.

Unless the assessment is returned to the student, no matter what title you give the assessment, the student is not receiving feedback necessary on the practice. Students need an opportunity to learn from their mistakes.

This may make sense for classes like math or chem where applying formulas takes rote practice and seeing the error of your ways is very beneficial and should be mastered for progression. But for art or english or history or sociology...you either showed up and read and engaged or you didn't. (Yes, sometimes we have quizzes and tests, too.) I am not writing two tests to pander to people who didn't study. Especially when I provide a study guide. Especially[i] when my tests are open note/book.

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Anonymous wrote:Is grading policy on the next BOE meeting agenda? Wouldn't the members need to vote on this?

When did the BOE vote that the retake grade didn’t replace the original grade if the original grade was higher? Because that is a new policy this year and I don’t remember the BOE ever discussing it.

OP has a misleading title. There is no proposed change to grading Policies, which would go through an entire committee review and public comment period, before the BOE votes on it.

What OP is sharing is a rumor that the guidance for implementing the policies may change. This has nitty gritty details that are intended to ensure uniform practices across MCPS and became necessary to describe in detail during the pandemic. You can find the guidance here:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/grading/report-cards-secondary.aspx

Thanks, PP. I'm so tired of these fictions from crazy right-wing MCPS board trolls just sowing public resentment and mistrust.

This is clearly just a troll since there's no such item on the board's agenda next month.

Agree but the funny part is I think the changes are reasonable. Basically giving students a practice test so they know what to expect and setting an upper boundary on assignments that results in no more than one assignment per day over a quarter seems great. Still sure this is all fiction so it doesn't matter.

Isn’t that what quizzes were for? A practice before the test.

Unless the assessment is returned to the student, no matter what title you give the assessment, the student is not receiving feedback necessary on the practice. Students need an opportunity to learn from their mistakes.

This may make sense for classes like math or chem where applying formulas takes rote practice and seeing the error of your ways is very beneficial and should be mastered for progression. But for art or english or history or sociology...you either showed up and read and engaged or you didn't. (Yes, sometimes we have quizzes and tests, too.) I am not writing two tests to pander to people who didn't study. Especially when I provide a study guide. Especially[i] when my tests are open note/book.

Are the retakes new tests or are students given the original one again? Or does it vary by teacher?

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Anonymous wrote:Is grading policy on the next BOE meeting agenda? Wouldn't the members need to vote on this?

When did the BOE vote that the retake grade didn’t replace the original grade if the original grade was higher? Because that is a new policy this year and I don’t remember the BOE ever discussing it.

OP has a misleading title. There is no proposed change to grading Policies, which would go through an entire committee review and public comment period, before the BOE votes on it.

What OP is sharing is a rumor that the guidance for implementing the policies may change. This has nitty gritty details that are intended to ensure uniform practices across MCPS and became necessary to describe in detail during the pandemic. You can find the guidance here:
https://www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/info/grading/report-cards-secondary.aspx

Thanks, PP. I'm so tired of these fictions from crazy right-wing MCPS board trolls just sowing public resentment and mistrust.

This is clearly just a troll since there's no such item on the board's agenda next month.

Agree but the funny part is I think the changes are reasonable. Basically giving students a practice test so they know what to expect and setting an upper boundary on assignments that results in no more than one assignment per day over a quarter seems great. Still sure this is all fiction so it doesn't matter.

Isn’t that what quizzes were for? A practice before the test.

Unless the assessment is returned to the student, no matter what title you give the assessment, the student is not receiving feedback necessary on the practice. Students need an opportunity to learn from their mistakes.

This may make sense for classes like math or chem where applying formulas takes rote practice and seeing the error of your ways is very beneficial and should be mastered for progression. But for art or english or history or sociology...you either showed up and read and engaged or you didn't. (Yes, sometimes we have quizzes and tests, too.) I am not writing two tests to pander to people who didn't study. Especially when I provide a study guide. Especially[i] when my tests are open note/book.