No, I didn’t really give any credence to it.

Yes, I’m fine with a pledge or anthem or patriots.

I’m never fine with activists hen picking one aspect of one persons life in over to cancel all do their accomplishments and themselves. That can be don’t for anyone, even yourself, or Obama or MLK or Tom Brady. Criticizing is easy. Solving problems and moving forward is not.

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Yes, very meaningful.

It belongs in every school, without exception.

Why?

And why?

Because it expresses the crucial, foundational ideals on which our proud nation rests, and of which we need to remind Americans daily ( given how many soon forget), and

Because this is the United States.

Because nothing says freedom like being forced to stand and recite something.

100%.

Except no one is forced to.

You are mistaken. In my public high school, you got detention if you didn't participate. That's force.

What about taking a test?
Or listening to the teacher?
Or not hitting a classmate on the playground?
Or not doing homework.

Just because… freedom!

No social contract anymore I see….. new American value. Do wTF you want when you want, minors included.

So you are ok with all American school kids reciting a pledge written by a socialist liberal minister?

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Yes, very meaningful.

It belongs in every school, without exception.

Why?

And why?

Because it expresses the crucial, foundational ideals on which our proud nation rests, and of which we need to remind Americans daily ( given how many soon forget), and

Because this is the United States.

Because nothing says freedom like being forced to stand and recite something.

100%.

Except no one is forced to.

You are mistaken. In my public high school, you got detention if you didn't participate. That's force.

What about taking a test?
Or listening to the teacher?
Or not hitting a classmate on the playground?
Or not doing homework.

Just because… freedom!

No social contract anymore I see….. new American value. Do wTF you want when you want, minors included.

I refused. I was very anti establishment.

Anonymous wrote:I was fairly patriotic as a kid/teenager (I'm less so now), but the recitation of the pledge was never a big part of that.

Me too but I didn't think pledging unquestioning loyalty was very American so I mostly ignored it.

No. The US and the constitution mean something to me. Worshipping a flag? Nothing. I still said the pledge for 12 years though, because we had to.

History trivia: the pledge was written by a socialist minister.
https://www.ushistory.org/documents/pledge.htm

Anonymous wrote:I work in an elementary school and I just heard the pledge over the announcements. It never meant much to me, I'm wondering if it meant anything to you and to your family. Not wanting to get snarky or political here, just a personal question.

Sense of community

Today community strength is lacking as a whole.

Anonymous wrote:As a young African American girl, it gave me a sense of pride in a country that I later found out I should not be proud of.

Yes the resistance is working!

Anonymous wrote:I work in an elementary school and I just heard the pledge over the announcements. It never meant much to me, I'm wondering if it meant anything to you and to your family. Not wanting to get snarky or political here, just a personal question.

When I was a kid it was done.
I lived in a multicultural area with black kids, Vietnamese, Chinese, polish, Italians, German, Serbian 1st, 2at, and 3rd generations.
Everyone learned English in 6 mos if they just arrived, so did their parents.
We all met to play baseball after school until our moms called us home for dinner. Didn’t matter what language you spoke, you learned baseball and had a blast playing it. Basketball courts too.

Now it’s in vogue to pick apart everyone and everything and criticize. Not bad together and do new stuff or have any personal agency. Easier to complain And blame and demand more entitlements. And why do some people feel so entitled? Because they’ve been told to devote 100% of their efforts to that.

Anonymous wrote:I work in an elementary school and I just heard the pledge over the announcements. It never meant much to me, I'm wondering if it meant anything to you and to your family. Not wanting to get snarky or political here, just a personal question.

Yes it mean there was a war and fighting to create this country and reminds me of the values it was founded on.
It reminds me it’s a republic.
Reminds me of liberty and justice for all. And how we should use broad and global perspective to keep it indivisible. Not crawl down a worm hole on one issue out of 100s that people have.

What else do you have other than civic nationalist symbols to bind together people who have not much in common?

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Yes, very meaningful.

It belongs in every school, without exception.

Why?

And why?

Because it expresses the crucial, foundational ideals on which our proud nation rests, and of which we need to remind Americans daily ( given how many soon forget), and

Because this is the United States.

We are not a nation. And it expresses little. It’s a bunch of BS words.

Under God? What?
Indivisible? Yeah, sure.

Blah bi-di-blah blah blah

Whatever, kid

Wow. Strong post. Well done!