Anonymous
09/30/2022 14:43
Subject: Are We Talking about Hurricane Ian?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, so sad. My parents are Sanibel snowbirds and always drive down from NY the second weekend in October. (That's obviously not happening this year.) It is our family's happy place.
My parents knew people who did not evacuate and those people are going to have to be evacuated by boat or air because that causeway is the only way onto the island by land.
It's very early in assessing damage, but I've seen some comments from people saying it may be a total loss. Too many sections damaged, and what is still intact probably can't be trusted. It's going to be ferries for several months at least.
Why should the bridge and road be rebuilt for vacation homes? It looks like the island is cut in a few places and they lost a lot of sand/beach. I wonder are the sewer and fresh water systems still intact? They will have to totally rebuild the island’s beach. It will cost millions and there is no guarantee another storm will not take every think out in a year or two. I really hope the federal government does not paid for the rebuild of the island.
6700 people live there. It’s not all vacation homes.
More people live on my block in NYC than that. It does not make sense to rebuild an area so prone to flooding and disaster.
No shit Sherlock. Nyc is the most condensed area of people living in the US. That doesn’t mean no where else isn’t allowed to have that idiot.
Anonymous
09/30/2022 14:42
Subject: Are We Talking about Hurricane Ian?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, so sad. My parents are Sanibel snowbirds and always drive down from NY the second weekend in October. (That's obviously not happening this year.) It is our family's happy place.
My parents knew people who did not evacuate and those people are going to have to be evacuated by boat or air because that causeway is the only way onto the island by land.
It's very early in assessing damage, but I've seen some comments from people saying it may be a total loss. Too many sections damaged, and what is still intact probably can't be trusted. It's going to be ferries for several months at least.
Why should the bridge and road be rebuilt for vacation homes? It looks like the island is cut in a few places and they lost a lot of sand/beach. I wonder are the sewer and fresh water systems still intact? They will have to totally rebuild the island’s beach. It will cost millions and there is no guarantee another storm will not take every think out in a year or two. I really hope the federal government does not paid for the rebuild of the island.
6700 people live there. It’s not all vacation homes.
More people live on my block in NYC than that. It does not make sense to rebuild an area so prone to flooding and disaster.
Anonymous
09/30/2022 14:42
Subject: Are We Talking about Hurricane Ian?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, so sad. My parents are Sanibel snowbirds and always drive down from NY the second weekend in October. (That's obviously not happening this year.) It is our family's happy place.
My parents knew people who did not evacuate and those people are going to have to be evacuated by boat or air because that causeway is the only way onto the island by land.
It's very early in assessing damage, but I've seen some comments from people saying it may be a total loss. Too many sections damaged, and what is still intact probably can't be trusted. It's going to be ferries for several months at least.
Why should the bridge and road be rebuilt for vacation homes? It looks like the island is cut in a few places and they lost a lot of sand/beach. I wonder are the sewer and fresh water systems still intact? They will have to totally rebuild the island’s beach. It will cost millions and there is no guarantee another storm will not take every think out in a year or two. I really hope the federal government does not paid for the rebuild of the island.
6700 people live there. It’s not all vacation homes.
How many millions in tax dollars are you willing to spend to rebuild it? In 2004 the new bridge was built for 137 million(lasted what 8 years?), beach replenishment 6-10 million, rebuilt the road 3-5 million so 6700 people can live in multiple million dollar homes on a sand bar? No they have to pay for that themselves.
Why did you deceptively state that it was all vacation homes? Why not be truthful?
Whether it’s vacation homes or not should we really be rebuilding entire island communities every 20 years? I love Sanibel but really question whether it makes sense anymore. Not to mention all this hurricane-related debris and contaminants are terrible for the marine environment.
You mean vacation homes are you inaccurately stated before.
Anonymous
09/30/2022 14:40
Subject: Are We Talking about Hurricane Ian?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, so sad. My parents are Sanibel snowbirds and always drive down from NY the second weekend in October. (That's obviously not happening this year.) It is our family's happy place.
My parents knew people who did not evacuate and those people are going to have to be evacuated by boat or air because that causeway is the only way onto the island by land.
It's very early in assessing damage, but I've seen some comments from people saying it may be a total loss. Too many sections damaged, and what is still intact probably can't be trusted. It's going to be ferries for several months at least.
Why should the bridge and road be rebuilt for vacation homes? It looks like the island is cut in a few places and they lost a lot of sand/beach. I wonder are the sewer and fresh water systems still intact? They will have to totally rebuild the island’s beach. It will cost millions and there is no guarantee another storm will not take every think out in a year or two. I really hope the federal government does not paid for the rebuild of the island.
6700 people live there. It’s not all vacation homes.
How many millions in tax dollars are you willing to spend to rebuild it? In 2004 the new bridge was built for 137 million(lasted what 8 years?), beach replenishment 6-10 million, rebuilt the road 3-5 million so 6700 people can live in multiple million dollar homes on a sand bar? No they have to pay for that themselves.
Why did you deceptively state that it was all vacation homes? Why not be truthful?
Whether it’s vacation homes or not should we really be rebuilding entire island communities every 20 years? I love Sanibel but really question whether it makes sense anymore. Not to mention all this hurricane-related debris and contaminants are terrible for the marine environment.
Well, to be fair, we built up many places in the U.S. that make no sense. Like Vegas, tornado alley, parts of California, New Orleans, Miami Beach. Even Manhattan is sinking.
Anonymous
09/30/2022 14:16
Subject: Are We Talking about Hurricane Ian?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, so sad. My parents are Sanibel snowbirds and always drive down from NY the second weekend in October. (That's obviously not happening this year.) It is our family's happy place.
My parents knew people who did not evacuate and those people are going to have to be evacuated by boat or air because that causeway is the only way onto the island by land.
It's very early in assessing damage, but I've seen some comments from people saying it may be a total loss. Too many sections damaged, and what is still intact probably can't be trusted. It's going to be ferries for several months at least.
Why should the bridge and road be rebuilt for vacation homes? It looks like the island is cut in a few places and they lost a lot of sand/beach. I wonder are the sewer and fresh water systems still intact? They will have to totally rebuild the island’s beach. It will cost millions and there is no guarantee another storm will not take every think out in a year or two. I really hope the federal government does not paid for the rebuild of the island.
6700 people live there. It’s not all vacation homes.
How many millions in tax dollars are you willing to spend to rebuild it? In 2004 the new bridge was built for 137 million(lasted what 8 years?), beach replenishment 6-10 million, rebuilt the road 3-5 million so 6700 people can live in multiple million dollar homes on a sand bar? No they have to pay for that themselves.
Why did you deceptively state that it was all vacation homes? Why not be truthful?
Whether it’s vacation homes or not should we really be rebuilding entire island communities every 20 years? I love Sanibel but really question whether it makes sense anymore. Not to mention all this hurricane-related debris and contaminants are terrible for the marine environment.
Anonymous
09/30/2022 14:12
Subject: Are We Talking about Hurricane Ian?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, so sad. My parents are Sanibel snowbirds and always drive down from NY the second weekend in October. (That's obviously not happening this year.) It is our family's happy place.
My parents knew people who did not evacuate and those people are going to have to be evacuated by boat or air because that causeway is the only way onto the island by land.
It's very early in assessing damage, but I've seen some comments from people saying it may be a total loss. Too many sections damaged, and what is still intact probably can't be trusted. It's going to be ferries for several months at least.
Why should the bridge and road be rebuilt for vacation homes? It looks like the island is cut in a few places and they lost a lot of sand/beach. I wonder are the sewer and fresh water systems still intact? They will have to totally rebuild the island’s beach. It will cost millions and there is no guarantee another storm will not take every think out in a year or two. I really hope the federal government does not paid for the rebuild of the island.
I'd imagine it's up to insurance companies - if nobody will insure new builds there, it won't get rebuilt.
This is a huge problem in FL. They keep losing insurance companies who are willing to keep insuring homes in the state. My MIL had her insurer stop doing business in the state. She then had to scramble to find a new one and that company insisted that she replace her roof before they would insure her.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2022/09/30/ian-florida-economy-insurance/
So are a lot of people just uninsured? It seems like that shouldn’t be allowed.
Anonymous
09/30/2022 11:48
Subject: Are We Talking about Hurricane Ian?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, so sad. My parents are Sanibel snowbirds and always drive down from NY the second weekend in October. (That's obviously not happening this year.) It is our family's happy place.
My parents knew people who did not evacuate and those people are going to have to be evacuated by boat or air because that causeway is the only way onto the island by land.
It's very early in assessing damage, but I've seen some comments from people saying it may be a total loss. Too many sections damaged, and what is still intact probably can't be trusted. It's going to be ferries for several months at least.
Why should the bridge and road be rebuilt for vacation homes? It looks like the island is cut in a few places and they lost a lot of sand/beach. I wonder are the sewer and fresh water systems still intact? They will have to totally rebuild the island’s beach. It will cost millions and there is no guarantee another storm will not take every think out in a year or two. I really hope the federal government does not paid for the rebuild of the island.
I'd imagine it's up to insurance companies - if nobody will insure new builds there, it won't get rebuilt.
This is a huge problem in FL. They keep losing insurance companies who are willing to keep insuring homes in the state. My MIL had her insurer stop doing business in the state. She then had to scramble to find a new one and that company insisted that she replace her roof before they would insure her.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2022/09/30/ian-florida-economy-insurance/
Anonymous
09/30/2022 07:17
Subject: Are We Talking about Hurricane Ian?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, so sad. My parents are Sanibel snowbirds and always drive down from NY the second weekend in October. (That's obviously not happening this year.) It is our family's happy place.
My parents knew people who did not evacuate and those people are going to have to be evacuated by boat or air because that causeway is the only way onto the island by land.
It's very early in assessing damage, but I've seen some comments from people saying it may be a total loss. Too many sections damaged, and what is still intact probably can't be trusted. It's going to be ferries for several months at least.
Why should the bridge and road be rebuilt for vacation homes? It looks like the island is cut in a few places and they lost a lot of sand/beach. I wonder are the sewer and fresh water systems still intact? They will have to totally rebuild the island’s beach. It will cost millions and there is no guarantee another storm will not take every think out in a year or two. I really hope the federal government does not paid for the rebuild of the island.
6700 people live there. It’s not all vacation homes.
How many millions in tax dollars are you willing to spend to rebuild it? In 2004 the new bridge was built for 137 million(lasted what 8 years?), beach replenishment 6-10 million, rebuilt the road 3-5 million so 6700 people can live in multiple million dollar homes on a sand bar? No they have to pay for that themselves.
I mean, tourism alone generates a few billion each year for Sanibel/Captiva...
+1.
Then Florida should be responsible for the environmental clean up.
Anonymous
09/30/2022 05:51
Subject: Are We Talking about Hurricane Ian?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, so sad. My parents are Sanibel snowbirds and always drive down from NY the second weekend in October. (That's obviously not happening this year.) It is our family's happy place.
My parents knew people who did not evacuate and those people are going to have to be evacuated by boat or air because that causeway is the only way onto the island by land.
It's very early in assessing damage, but I've seen some comments from people saying it may be a total loss. Too many sections damaged, and what is still intact probably can't be trusted. It's going to be ferries for several months at least.
Why should the bridge and road be rebuilt for vacation homes? It looks like the island is cut in a few places and they lost a lot of sand/beach. I wonder are the sewer and fresh water systems still intact? They will have to totally rebuild the island’s beach. It will cost millions and there is no guarantee another storm will not take every think out in a year or two. I really hope the federal government does not paid for the rebuild of the island.
6700 people live there. It’s not all vacation homes.
+1-Stupid people just spout stuff they know nothing about.
NP. I hope federal aid going to relocating and reestablishing those 6700+ people and remediating the environmental damage from the loss of Sanibel, not rebuilding it.
Anonymous
09/29/2022 23:23
Subject: Are We Talking about Hurricane Ian?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, so sad. My parents are Sanibel snowbirds and always drive down from NY the second weekend in October. (That's obviously not happening this year.) It is our family's happy place.
My parents knew people who did not evacuate and those people are going to have to be evacuated by boat or air because that causeway is the only way onto the island by land.
It's very early in assessing damage, but I've seen some comments from people saying it may be a total loss. Too many sections damaged, and what is still intact probably can't be trusted. It's going to be ferries for several months at least.
Why should the bridge and road be rebuilt for vacation homes? It looks like the island is cut in a few places and they lost a lot of sand/beach. I wonder are the sewer and fresh water systems still intact? They will have to totally rebuild the island’s beach. It will cost millions and there is no guarantee another storm will not take every think out in a year or two. I really hope the federal government does not paid for the rebuild of the island.
6700 people live there. It’s not all vacation homes.
Families make their homes here. I do a lot of business with the Sanibel parks and rec dept youth league sports.
My family lives there. It is a real community and not just vacation homes.
PP are you all ok?
Anonymous
09/29/2022 23:02
Subject: Are We Talking about Hurricane Ian?
The Ft Myers area has a lot of 1/2 size mobile home communities. My inlaws lived in one for 6 months of the year. There is no doubt in my mind that their is significant deaths in these communities. Many seniors are reluctant to evacuate. Many seniors don't have the money to evacuate. I suspect drownings, heart attacks, and death from the heat in the coming days.
Anonymous
09/29/2022 23:01
Subject: Are We Talking about Hurricane Ian?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, so sad. My parents are Sanibel snowbirds and always drive down from NY the second weekend in October. (That's obviously not happening this year.) It is our family's happy place.
My parents knew people who did not evacuate and those people are going to have to be evacuated by boat or air because that causeway is the only way onto the island by land.
It's very early in assessing damage, but I've seen some comments from people saying it may be a total loss. Too many sections damaged, and what is still intact probably can't be trusted. It's going to be ferries for several months at least.
Why should the bridge and road be rebuilt for vacation homes? It looks like the island is cut in a few places and they lost a lot of sand/beach. I wonder are the sewer and fresh water systems still intact? They will have to totally rebuild the island’s beach. It will cost millions and there is no guarantee another storm will not take every think out in a year or two. I really hope the federal government does not paid for the rebuild of the island.
6700 people live there. It’s not all vacation homes.
Families make their homes here. I do a lot of business with the Sanibel parks and rec dept youth league sports.
My family lives there. It is a real community and not just vacation homes.
Anonymous
09/29/2022 22:57
Subject: Are We Talking about Hurricane Ian?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, so sad. My parents are Sanibel snowbirds and always drive down from NY the second weekend in October. (That's obviously not happening this year.) It is our family's happy place.
My parents knew people who did not evacuate and those people are going to have to be evacuated by boat or air because that causeway is the only way onto the island by land.
It's very early in assessing damage, but I've seen some comments from people saying it may be a total loss. Too many sections damaged, and what is still intact probably can't be trusted. It's going to be ferries for several months at least.
Why should the bridge and road be rebuilt for vacation homes? It looks like the island is cut in a few places and they lost a lot of sand/beach. I wonder are the sewer and fresh water systems still intact? They will have to totally rebuild the island’s beach. It will cost millions and there is no guarantee another storm will not take every think out in a year or two. I really hope the federal government does not paid for the rebuild of the island.
I'd imagine it's up to insurance companies - if nobody will insure new builds there, it won't get rebuilt.
Anonymous
09/29/2022 22:57
Subject: Are We Talking about Hurricane Ian?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So, so sad. My parents are Sanibel snowbirds and always drive down from NY the second weekend in October. (That's obviously not happening this year.) It is our family's happy place.
My parents knew people who did not evacuate and those people are going to have to be evacuated by boat or air because that causeway is the only way onto the island by land.
It's very early in assessing damage, but I've seen some comments from people saying it may be a total loss. Too many sections damaged, and what is still intact probably can't be trusted. It's going to be ferries for several months at least.
Why should the bridge and road be rebuilt for vacation homes? It looks like the island is cut in a few places and they lost a lot of sand/beach. I wonder are the sewer and fresh water systems still intact? They will have to totally rebuild the island’s beach. It will cost millions and there is no guarantee another storm will not take every think out in a year or two. I really hope the federal government does not paid for the rebuild of the island.
6700 people live there. It’s not all vacation homes.
Families make their homes here. I do a lot of business with the Sanibel parks and rec dept youth league sports.
Anonymous
09/29/2022 22:50
Subject: Are We Talking about Hurricane Ian?
Anonymous wrote:So many of you are so mean. So much loss and devastation. Peoples entire lives- gone. Everything they worked for destroyed. Regardless of if they evacuated, their politics, if they were born there or not. Human lives and homes are lost. It’s truly awful.
Those are just things. It’s the people I care about.