What is the point of continuing this friendship? You are never going to want to go to her home. When you really understand what she is doing in housing a pedophile, you won’t want her in your home either. Tell her she needs to get her ish together and stop enabling his crime.

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Anonymous wrote:At a risk of being attacked, what is so wrong about bailing him out? He is under surveillance, so he cannot do any harm. This is the chance for the family to talk, get his side of the story, have closures, or just simply be together before he gets locked up, probably for a very long time. He is still her son and I am sure she still loves him. As long as he is no longer threat to society, I think she has all the moral right to bail him out.

There is no "his side of the story" that needs to be heard. He has destroyed the lives of countless people.
I would end the friendship over bailing him out and have no qualms about making that reason known.

Wrong. Until he has been convicted he has every right to tell his side of the story.

Anonymous wrote:At a risk of being attacked, what is so wrong about bailing him out? He is under surveillance, so he cannot do any harm. This is the chance for the family to talk, get his side of the story, have closures, or just simply be together before he gets locked up, probably for a very long time. He is still her son and I am sure she still loves him. As long as he is no longer threat to society, I think she has all the moral right to bail him out.

There is no "his side of the story" that needs to be heard. He has destroyed the lives of countless people.
I would end the friendship over bailing him out and have no qualms about making that reason known.

Anonymous wrote:At a risk of being attacked, what is so wrong about bailing him out? He is under surveillance, so he cannot do any harm. This is the chance for the family to talk, get his side of the story, have closures, or just simply be together before he gets locked up, probably for a very long time. He is still her son and I am sure she still loves him. As long as he is no longer threat to society, I think she has all the moral right to bail him out.

No she does not.

This is child porn what do you not understand about that ?

And he’s never going to be rehabilitated that’s absurd pedos never do. Out of jail I guarantee he will try again and again and again

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not convinced someone can become a pedo in a vacuum. Did you ever get “off” vibes from her or his father?

Honestly, he’s not my favorite person. He is a lifelong functioning alcoholic, a misogynistic and generally just loud and abrasive. My friend is very introverted, possibly even meek. Do I think, or did I ever think, he was a pedophile or had ever/would ever abuse a child? No. I never got their vibes at all. But I also would have never thought their son would grow up to be the person he is today. He truly has everything going for him as a kid.

The kid was spoiled rotten. Mommy make excuses for every bad behavior. Kid got “bailed out” all his life. This is extreme parental neglect. I’d put all three of them in jail.
OP should not engage with this criminal family until the criminal parents allow their criminal boy to sit in jail where he belongs. But that of course that will never happen because mommy would rather die than let her baby boy suffer any discomfort.

Oh dear jailing the whole family for dc sins?

Hum no

If they are found complicit of course but being crappy parents nah.

Sometimes a kid is just horrific

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Anonymous wrote:At a risk of being attacked, what is so wrong about bailing him out? He is under surveillance, so he cannot do any harm. This is the chance for the family to talk, get his side of the story, have closures, or just simply be together before he gets locked up, probably for a very long time. He is still her son and I am sure she still loves him. As long as he is no longer threat to society, I think she has all the moral right to bail him out.

The problem is if he still wants to access CP he can and will figure out a way to do so. And he very well might do it while living under her roof. So he CAN still do harm and he CAN STILL be a threat as an on-line predator.

No, he can't- being under surveillance means they are tracking his computer/internet usage, too.

Anonymous wrote:At a risk of being attacked, what is so wrong about bailing him out? He is under surveillance, so he cannot do any harm. This is the chance for the family to talk, get his side of the story, have closures, or just simply be together before he gets locked up, probably for a very long time. He is still her son and I am sure she still loves him. As long as he is no longer threat to society, I think she has all the moral right to bail him out.

The problem is if he still wants to access CP he can and will figure out a way to do so. And he very well might do it while living under her roof. So he CAN still do harm and he CAN STILL be a threat as an on-line predator.

At a risk of being attacked, what is so wrong about bailing him out? He is under surveillance, so he cannot do any harm. This is the chance for the family to talk, get his side of the story, have closures, or just simply be together before he gets locked up, probably for a very long time. He is still her son and I am sure she still loves him. As long as he is no longer threat to society, I think she has all the moral right to bail him out.

This is not your friend's fault.

But if I were you, I'd keep my distance as much as possible.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not convinced someone can become a pedo in a vacuum. Did you ever get “off” vibes from her or his father?

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Pedophiles (and rapists, and domestic abusers) can be very very good at manipulating others and crafting a very likable, harmless persona. That’s why so few victims are believed. It is by design.

-molested by dad, yet my family believes him over me

I’m very sorry that happened. I believe you.

I believe you, too.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m not convinced someone can become a pedo in a vacuum. Did you ever get “off” vibes from her or his father?

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Pedophiles (and rapists, and domestic abusers) can be very very good at manipulating others and crafting a very likable, harmless persona. That’s why so few victims are believed. It is by design.

-molested by dad, yet my family believes him over me

I’m very sorry that happened. I believe you.

Anonymous wrote:She has every right to bail her kid out. HE will be torn to shreds in jail. Don't think less of her for that.

In your shoes, I would support a real friend. I would set boundaries, though. Not talk about the son. In the sense she should not seek validation from you that he's a good person. But can you be a shoulder to lean on? She's more a victim than an enabler, IMO. He had that **** in her house.

This 100%

I would tell her that I am ending the friendship because she chose to bail her son out. That action would only be morally defensible had he been immediately confined in a psychiatric facility for treatment. I simply cannot support those who -- even indirectly -- aid those who prey on our children. The offender is troubled but he is an adult who has the ability to rebuild his life, unlike the victims, who are sentenced to decades of mental suffering.

Anonymous wrote:It is extremely disturbing how many 32 yo men were recently arrested for CP. It seems to be a way more common crime than I ever imagined.

They've linked Pedophilia to brain damage in the past - some perfectly normal guy hits his head hard or gets in a car accident and then all of a sudden has these crazy urges. They need to do more research and maybe there is a fix for it. One of the most harmful crimes and there is nothing to do but hope you find them before they act on their urges. These men are also probably scared to go to the doctor and say I have this problem, can you help - but we should be encouraging them to identify themselves and seek help.

It is extremely disturbing how many 32 yo men were recently arrested for CP. It seems to be a way more common crime than I ever imagined.