Anonymous
Post 08/29/2022 19:13     Subject: Dropping 20lbs+ or more past 40 significantly ages people’s looks
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Anonymous wrote:If your blood work is good and all other parameters are good who cares. And no, if you are lean with lots of muscle mass you aren’t at a greater risk of all cause mortality compared to somebody overweight with low muscle mass who doesn’t move.

All in moderation. Do what you want. You only get so many trips around the sun. Some prefer to watch TV and not move. Others prefer to be more active. You do you.



No one is arguing be overweight and not move, but it's better for your health to be active and overweight than thinner and sedentary.


That’s true. But the group of people that are actually active in a way that matters for health and remain overweight is small. The group that is overweight and pretends to be active in a way that matters is large. The group of people that are overweight and don’t move at all is also large. The group that is skinny fat and sedentary is a rounding error unless they are on drugs or smoking a ton of cigarettes.


On what data are you basing this?


Being alive and actually paying attention in the US to people around you? New Year new me —> by March market flooded with barely used fitness equipment. Sales of garbage food remain unchanged. I have had great success buying high end used bikes from people my age that have all these lofty ambitions and never live up to them. Great for me-I’ll actually put the mileage on them.

Facts are hard. Wear a helmet. Most people who are overweight aren’t that healthy and they certainly aren’t moving in a way that makes any difference to their health. Especially those that sit at a desk all day.


Oh it’s the helmet guy. Ignore him.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2022 19:05     Subject: Dropping 20lbs+ or more past 40 significantly ages people’s looks
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your blood work is good and all other parameters are good who cares. And no, if you are lean with lots of muscle mass you aren’t at a greater risk of all cause mortality compared to somebody overweight with low muscle mass who doesn’t move.

All in moderation. Do what you want. You only get so many trips around the sun. Some prefer to watch TV and not move. Others prefer to be more active. You do you.



No one is arguing be overweight and not move, but it's better for your health to be active and overweight than thinner and sedentary.


That’s true. But the group of people that are actually active in a way that matters for health and remain overweight is small. The group that is overweight and pretends to be active in a way that matters is large. The group of people that are overweight and don’t move at all is also large. The group that is skinny fat and sedentary is a rounding error unless they are on drugs or smoking a ton of cigarettes.


On what data are you basing this?


Being alive and actually paying attention in the US to people around you? New Year new me —> by March market flooded with barely used fitness equipment. Sales of garbage food remain unchanged. I have had great success buying high end used bikes from people my age that have all these lofty ambitions and never live up to them. Great for me-I’ll actually put the mileage on them.

Facts are hard. Wear a helmet. Most people who are overweight aren’t that healthy and they certainly aren’t moving in a way that makes any difference to their health. Especially those that sit at a desk all day.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2022 18:50     Subject: Dropping 20lbs+ or more past 40 significantly ages people’s looks
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your blood work is good and all other parameters are good who cares. And no, if you are lean with lots of muscle mass you aren’t at a greater risk of all cause mortality compared to somebody overweight with low muscle mass who doesn’t move.

All in moderation. Do what you want. You only get so many trips around the sun. Some prefer to watch TV and not move. Others prefer to be more active. You do you.



No one is arguing be overweight and not move, but it's better for your health to be active and overweight than thinner and sedentary.


That’s true. But the group of people that are actually active in a way that matters for health and remain overweight is small. The group that is overweight and pretends to be active in a way that matters is large. The group of people that are overweight and don’t move at all is also large. The group that is skinny fat and sedentary is a rounding error unless they are on drugs or smoking a ton of cigarettes.


On what data are you basing this?
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2022 18:29     Subject: Re:Dropping 20lbs+ or more past 40 significantly ages people’s looks
I have been obese my entire life and I’m 30. I think I will finally be able to lose the weight (thanks Ozempic) and i’m really dreading how it’s going to age me to get to a normal weight. Totally worth it of course, but I legit look 25 thanks to my fat face (from the shoulders up of course….my body is more like 65 tbh). I fully expect to have early onset turkey waddle that will need addressing with a deep plane neck lift or maybe even face lift sooner rather than later in addition to the body lift.

I don’t think this applies to people who haven’t been significantly overweight for a long time like me. Anyone I’ve known who was a bit chubby and lost 20 pounds always looks better than before IMO.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2022 18:12     Subject: Dropping 20lbs+ or more past 40 significantly ages people’s looks
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If your blood work is good and all other parameters are good who cares. And no, if you are lean with lots of muscle mass you aren’t at a greater risk of all cause mortality compared to somebody overweight with low muscle mass who doesn’t move.

All in moderation. Do what you want. You only get so many trips around the sun. Some prefer to watch TV and not move. Others prefer to be more active. You do you.



No one is arguing be overweight and not move, but it's better for your health to be active and overweight than thinner and sedentary.


That’s true. But the group of people that are actually active in a way that matters for health and remain overweight is small. The group that is overweight and pretends to be active in a way that matters is large. The group of people that are overweight and don’t move at all is also large. The group that is skinny fat and sedentary is a rounding error unless they are on drugs or smoking a ton of cigarettes.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2022 17:56     Subject: Dropping 20lbs+ or more past 40 significantly ages people’s looks
Anonymous wrote:I haven’t read all the comments. But I’m 52. I’ve lost 120lbs over the last 2 years and it really does age you. My only saving grace is that I’m African American and my face doesn’t show wrinkles but “I” think it looks a little gaunt (DH and friends say the opposite). So I agree with OP initial statement. I actually stopped trying to lose because other people who are not friends but just acquaintances were asking me if I was sick! I really wish I had my fat face back. I’m hoping to have a full tummy tuck, arm lift, and breast lift next year.


I also agree with the above poster regarding NOT doing the stop and start approach. If I had done that I would have never lost the weight I have. For most trying to seriously loose a lot of weight, you can’t stop mid battle.


Thank you! And congratulations on your 120 pound weight loss -- that must have been so much work and I SEE YOU! Good luck with the procedures you mentioned -- hope you get the results you are looking for!
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2022 14:40     Subject: Dropping 20lbs+ or more past 40 significantly ages people’s looks
Anonymous wrote:If your blood work is good and all other parameters are good who cares. And no, if you are lean with lots of muscle mass you aren’t at a greater risk of all cause mortality compared to somebody overweight with low muscle mass who doesn’t move.

All in moderation. Do what you want. You only get so many trips around the sun. Some prefer to watch TV and not move. Others prefer to be more active. You do you.



No one is arguing be overweight and not move, but it's better for your health to be active and overweight than thinner and sedentary.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2022 13:01     Subject: Dropping 20lbs+ or more past 40 significantly ages people’s looks
Geez, if only my fat clogged arteries knew how unaged my face is on the outside, while my body is dying inside, and my blood can't move to my brain, could they not just keep up with my youthful looks?
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2022 12:49     Subject: Dropping 20lbs+ or more past 40 significantly ages people’s looks
If your blood work is good and all other parameters are good who cares. And no, if you are lean with lots of muscle mass you aren’t at a greater risk of all cause mortality compared to somebody overweight with low muscle mass who doesn’t move.

All in moderation. Do what you want. You only get so many trips around the sun. Some prefer to watch TV and not move. Others prefer to be more active. You do you.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2022 12:46     Subject: Re:Dropping 20lbs+ or more past 40 significantly ages people’s looks
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So you're saying that if you stay fat, you'll stay looking younger? Don't overlook the fact that if you stay fat, you're also likely to die younger. People seem to have no trouble coming with the weirdest excuses for giving up on weight loss.


Not really. Obesity levels 2 and 3 are associated with early mortality compared to normal weight. Obesity level 1 has the same mortality rate as normal weight, and overweight has a lower association with with all-cause mortality.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4855514/#:~:text=Conclusions%20and%20Relevance,significantly%20lower%20all%2Dcause%20mortality.


The study you referenced is controversial because it did not exclude people who were sick and had already lost weight.

Here's a discussion of the subject that references a more recent study that did exclude them and came up with a different conclusion -- people who were overweight or obese had shorter lifespans:

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/04/03/522475728/carrying-some-extra-pounds-may-not-be-good-after-all

At this point in time, its conclusion is generally accepted by the medical profession

Anonymous
Post 08/29/2022 12:32     Subject: Dropping 20lbs+ or more past 40 significantly ages people’s looks
Anonymous wrote:it has to do with how fast you lose the weight


This. 100%
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2022 12:15     Subject: Dropping 20lbs+ or more past 40 significantly ages people’s looks
it has to do with how fast you lose the weight
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2022 12:12     Subject: Dropping 20lbs+ or more past 40 significantly ages people’s looks
Anonymous wrote:I’ve noticed this trend for awhile among people I know. Most of these people are otherwise healthy people (a couple lost weight due to cancer and other disease). Those in their early 40s who now look to be in their mid-50s because they are so gaunt (eg, sunken cheeks). Is there anyway to avoid this from happening besides going back in time and not putting on weight to begin with?


I don't think it's the loss that makes you look old. It's just being skinnier. People with some extra weigh have rounder faces and look younger. It's a tradeoff.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2022 12:04     Subject: Dropping 20lbs+ or more past 40 significantly ages people’s looks
Anonymous wrote:Guys!

If you are overweight and want to lose weight, DO IT!!!

No matter how old you are.

Who tf cares if you look older? You’re going to feel so good and the happiness is probably going to give you a youthful glow (not that it matters). And you’re definitely going to be more energetic.

Guess what, you’ll live longer and your insides will look young. 😉


Agree with if you want to do it, do it, but living a longer life isn’t motivating for everyone. In fact it’s downright depressing.
Anonymous
Post 08/29/2022 09:26     Subject: Dropping 20lbs+ or more past 40 significantly ages people’s looks
Add muscle people. Lose fat, add muscle.

If you’re older and lose weight and don’t build up muscle, congrats your scale will drop. But you won’t look as good as possible, and you won’t be any stronger.