Mom thinks of her DS as a real person and is trying to help him. Dad thinks of his son as a "right."

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Anonymous wrote:Your son should see a therapist for coping skills. Look at DBT.
Have your son talk directly to the judge. See if he can do it in private.

My kid is in therapy. Choosing to take a break from someone who has traumatized you, and using healthy things like physical exercise to manage stress are coping skills.

They did talk to the judge last time. In MD, 16 is the age when the judge needs to take their wishes into account though.

Traumatized. How was that? Sounds like the judge thought visits were best. He can exercise on your time and not the few hours with dad, aunt and cousins.

It seems he is going on these runs to get away from his dad so doing it on his moms time would undermine the reason for doing it.

He runs pretty seriously, but the point in leaving would be to get away from and make a statement to his dad. Otherwise he’d go before or after.

He didn’t end up leaving, he ended up separating himself but not leaving the house.

He sounds like a spoiled brat. Call an emergency court hearing and stop visits. Or, offer no visits for no child support.

Dad sounds like someone who hasn't built a relationship with his son and is paying the price for it. As soon as son is 18, bye bye, visits to Dad!

Its pretty hard to have a relationship when the other parent is sabotaging you. At 18, say goodbye to child support and helping to pay for college. OP should be fine with no child support if Dad is that bad and it gets Dad out of their lives. Seems pretty simple to me.

It sounds like the split is recent so the father should have already had a solid relationship with his son.

They are separated. Now managing the relationship with his son is the father's job. He should not rely on the mother to manage it in any way. If the son is upset with the father, it's up to the father to sort it out. He should not rely on his ex wife to clean up his mess. His son, his relationship, his job.

It’s impossible with a mother like this. Dad cannot clean up her mess.

Dad forces his way into my home, and screams at me in front of the kid, and the mess he made of his relationship with the kids is MY mess? How do you figure that? I'm not the one who dragged the kids into it.

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Anonymous wrote:Your son should see a therapist for coping skills. Look at DBT.
Have your son talk directly to the judge. See if he can do it in private.

My kid is in therapy. Choosing to take a break from someone who has traumatized you, and using healthy things like physical exercise to manage stress are coping skills.

They did talk to the judge last time. In MD, 16 is the age when the judge needs to take their wishes into account though.

Traumatized. How was that? Sounds like the judge thought visits were best. He can exercise on your time and not the few hours with dad, aunt and cousins.

It seems he is going on these runs to get away from his dad so doing it on his moms time would undermine the reason for doing it.

He runs pretty seriously, but the point in leaving would be to get away from and make a statement to his dad. Otherwise he’d go before or after.

He didn’t end up leaving, he ended up separating himself but not leaving the house.

He sounds like a spoiled brat. Call an emergency court hearing and stop visits. Or, offer no visits for no child support.

OP here, my kids' Dad is far from perfect, but he's not going to sell his right to visit his own children, or fail to support his kids out of spite. The fact that you'd even suggest that is a sign you are a terrible person.

A lot of mean divorced men on here who hate mothers, and don't understand that child support is meant to support their own child. Truly terrible, bitter men.

And, there are a lot of mean moms who hate men that will do anything to ruin the kids relationship. If you don’t want dad involved you should decline child support.

Yawn.

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Anonymous wrote:Your son should see a therapist for coping skills. Look at DBT.
Have your son talk directly to the judge. See if he can do it in private.

My kid is in therapy. Choosing to take a break from someone who has traumatized you, and using healthy things like physical exercise to manage stress are coping skills.

They did talk to the judge last time. In MD, 16 is the age when the judge needs to take their wishes into account though.

Traumatized. How was that? Sounds like the judge thought visits were best. He can exercise on your time and not the few hours with dad, aunt and cousins.

It seems he is going on these runs to get away from his dad so doing it on his moms time would undermine the reason for doing it.

He runs pretty seriously, but the point in leaving would be to get away from and make a statement to his dad. Otherwise he’d go before or after.

He didn’t end up leaving, he ended up separating himself but not leaving the house.

He sounds like a spoiled brat. Call an emergency court hearing and stop visits. Or, offer no visits for no child support.

Dad sounds like someone who hasn't built a relationship with his son and is paying the price for it. As soon as son is 18, bye bye, visits to Dad!

Its pretty hard to have a relationship when the other parent is sabotaging you. At 18, say goodbye to child support and helping to pay for college. OP should be fine with no child support if Dad is that bad and it gets Dad out of their lives. Seems pretty simple to me.

Yes, the nasty, lazy crappy dads always do use college money as a weapon. Luckily judges in many states are putting a stop to it.

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Anonymous wrote:Your son should see a therapist for coping skills. Look at DBT.
Have your son talk directly to the judge. See if he can do it in private.

My kid is in therapy. Choosing to take a break from someone who has traumatized you, and using healthy things like physical exercise to manage stress are coping skills.

They did talk to the judge last time. In MD, 16 is the age when the judge needs to take their wishes into account though.

Traumatized. How was that? Sounds like the judge thought visits were best. He can exercise on your time and not the few hours with dad, aunt and cousins.

It seems he is going on these runs to get away from his dad so doing it on his moms time would undermine the reason for doing it.

He runs pretty seriously, but the point in leaving would be to get away from and make a statement to his dad. Otherwise he’d go before or after.

He didn’t end up leaving, he ended up separating himself but not leaving the house.

He sounds like a spoiled brat. Call an emergency court hearing and stop visits. Or, offer no visits for no child support.

Dad sounds like someone who hasn't built a relationship with his son and is paying the price for it. As soon as son is 18, bye bye, visits to Dad!

Its pretty hard to have a relationship when the other parent is sabotaging you. At 18, say goodbye to child support and helping to pay for college. OP should be fine with no child support if Dad is that bad and it gets Dad out of their lives. Seems pretty simple to me.

It sounds like the split is recent so the father should have already had a solid relationship with his son.

They are separated. Now managing the relationship with his son is the father's job. He should not rely on the mother to manage it in any way. If the son is upset with the father, it's up to the father to sort it out. He should not rely on his ex wife to clean up his mess. His son, his relationship, his job.

It’s impossible with a mother like this. Dad cannot clean up her mess.

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Anonymous wrote:Your son should see a therapist for coping skills. Look at DBT.
Have your son talk directly to the judge. See if he can do it in private.

My kid is in therapy. Choosing to take a break from someone who has traumatized you, and using healthy things like physical exercise to manage stress are coping skills.

They did talk to the judge last time. In MD, 16 is the age when the judge needs to take their wishes into account though.

Traumatized. How was that? Sounds like the judge thought visits were best. He can exercise on your time and not the few hours with dad, aunt and cousins.

It seems he is going on these runs to get away from his dad so doing it on his moms time would undermine the reason for doing it.

He runs pretty seriously, but the point in leaving would be to get away from and make a statement to his dad. Otherwise he’d go before or after.

He didn’t end up leaving, he ended up separating himself but not leaving the house.

He sounds like a spoiled brat. Call an emergency court hearing and stop visits. Or, offer no visits for no child support.

OP here, my kids' Dad is far from perfect, but he's not going to sell his right to visit his own children, or fail to support his kids out of spite. The fact that you'd even suggest that is a sign you are a terrible person.

A lot of mean divorced men on here who hate mothers, and don't understand that child support is meant to support their own child. Truly terrible, bitter men.

And, there are a lot of mean moms who hate men that will do anything to ruin the kids relationship. If you don’t want dad involved you should decline child support.

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Anonymous wrote:Your son should see a therapist for coping skills. Look at DBT.
Have your son talk directly to the judge. See if he can do it in private.

My kid is in therapy. Choosing to take a break from someone who has traumatized you, and using healthy things like physical exercise to manage stress are coping skills.

They did talk to the judge last time. In MD, 16 is the age when the judge needs to take their wishes into account though.

Traumatized. How was that? Sounds like the judge thought visits were best. He can exercise on your time and not the few hours with dad, aunt and cousins.

It seems he is going on these runs to get away from his dad so doing it on his moms time would undermine the reason for doing it.

He runs pretty seriously, but the point in leaving would be to get away from and make a statement to his dad. Otherwise he’d go before or after.

He didn’t end up leaving, he ended up separating himself but not leaving the house.

He sounds like a spoiled brat. Call an emergency court hearing and stop visits. Or, offer no visits for no child support.

Dad sounds like someone who hasn't built a relationship with his son and is paying the price for it. As soon as son is 18, bye bye, visits to Dad!

Its pretty hard to have a relationship when the other parent is sabotaging you. At 18, say goodbye to child support and helping to pay for college. OP should be fine with no child support if Dad is that bad and it gets Dad out of their lives. Seems pretty simple to me.

Yes, everything is mommy's fault.

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Anonymous wrote:Your son should see a therapist for coping skills. Look at DBT.
Have your son talk directly to the judge. See if he can do it in private.

My kid is in therapy. Choosing to take a break from someone who has traumatized you, and using healthy things like physical exercise to manage stress are coping skills.

They did talk to the judge last time. In MD, 16 is the age when the judge needs to take their wishes into account though.

Traumatized. How was that? Sounds like the judge thought visits were best. He can exercise on your time and not the few hours with dad, aunt and cousins.

It seems he is going on these runs to get away from his dad so doing it on his moms time would undermine the reason for doing it.

He runs pretty seriously, but the point in leaving would be to get away from and make a statement to his dad. Otherwise he’d go before or after.

He didn’t end up leaving, he ended up separating himself but not leaving the house.

He sounds like a spoiled brat. Call an emergency court hearing and stop visits. Or, offer no visits for no child support.

OP here, my kids' Dad is far from perfect, but he's not going to sell his right to visit his own children, or fail to support his kids out of spite. The fact that you'd even suggest that is a sign you are a terrible person.

A lot of mean divorced men on here who hate mothers, and don't understand that child support is meant to support their own child. Truly terrible, bitter men.

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Anonymous wrote:Your son should see a therapist for coping skills. Look at DBT.
Have your son talk directly to the judge. See if he can do it in private.

My kid is in therapy. Choosing to take a break from someone who has traumatized you, and using healthy things like physical exercise to manage stress are coping skills.

They did talk to the judge last time. In MD, 16 is the age when the judge needs to take their wishes into account though.

Traumatized. How was that? Sounds like the judge thought visits were best. He can exercise on your time and not the few hours with dad, aunt and cousins.

It seems he is going on these runs to get away from his dad so doing it on his moms time would undermine the reason for doing it.

He runs pretty seriously, but the point in leaving would be to get away from and make a statement to his dad. Otherwise he’d go before or after.

He didn’t end up leaving, he ended up separating himself but not leaving the house.

He sounds like a spoiled brat. Call an emergency court hearing and stop visits. Or, offer no visits for no child support.

Dad sounds like someone who hasn't built a relationship with his son and is paying the price for it. As soon as son is 18, bye bye, visits to Dad!

Its pretty hard to have a relationship when the other parent is sabotaging you. At 18, say goodbye to child support and helping to pay for college. OP should be fine with no child support if Dad is that bad and it gets Dad out of their lives. Seems pretty simple to me.

It sounds like the split is recent so the father should have already had a solid relationship with his son.

They are separated. Now managing the relationship with his son is the father's job. He should not rely on the mother to manage it in any way. If the son is upset with the father, it's up to the father to sort it out. He should not rely on his ex wife to clean up his mess. His son, his relationship, his job.

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Anonymous wrote:Your son should see a therapist for coping skills. Look at DBT.
Have your son talk directly to the judge. See if he can do it in private.

My kid is in therapy. Choosing to take a break from someone who has traumatized you, and using healthy things like physical exercise to manage stress are coping skills.

They did talk to the judge last time. In MD, 16 is the age when the judge needs to take their wishes into account though.

Traumatized. How was that? Sounds like the judge thought visits were best. He can exercise on your time and not the few hours with dad, aunt and cousins.

It seems he is going on these runs to get away from his dad so doing it on his moms time would undermine the reason for doing it.

He runs pretty seriously, but the point in leaving would be to get away from and make a statement to his dad. Otherwise he’d go before or after.

He didn’t end up leaving, he ended up separating himself but not leaving the house.

He sounds like a spoiled brat. Call an emergency court hearing and stop visits. Or, offer no visits for no child support.

Dad sounds like someone who hasn't built a relationship with his son and is paying the price for it. As soon as son is 18, bye bye, visits to Dad!

Its pretty hard to have a relationship when the other parent is sabotaging you. At 18, say goodbye to child support and helping to pay for college. OP should be fine with no child support if Dad is that bad and it gets Dad out of their lives. Seems pretty simple to me.

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Anonymous wrote:Your son should see a therapist for coping skills. Look at DBT.
Have your son talk directly to the judge. See if he can do it in private.

My kid is in therapy. Choosing to take a break from someone who has traumatized you, and using healthy things like physical exercise to manage stress are coping skills.

They did talk to the judge last time. In MD, 16 is the age when the judge needs to take their wishes into account though.

Traumatized. How was that? Sounds like the judge thought visits were best. He can exercise on your time and not the few hours with dad, aunt and cousins.

It seems he is going on these runs to get away from his dad so doing it on his moms time would undermine the reason for doing it.

He runs pretty seriously, but the point in leaving would be to get away from and make a statement to his dad. Otherwise he’d go before or after.

He didn’t end up leaving, he ended up separating himself but not leaving the house.

He sounds like a spoiled brat. Call an emergency court hearing and stop visits. Or, offer no visits for no child support.

Dad sounds like someone who hasn't built a relationship with his son and is paying the price for it. As soon as son is 18, bye bye, visits to Dad!

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Anonymous wrote:Your son should see a therapist for coping skills. Look at DBT.
Have your son talk directly to the judge. See if he can do it in private.

My kid is in therapy. Choosing to take a break from someone who has traumatized you, and using healthy things like physical exercise to manage stress are coping skills.

They did talk to the judge last time. In MD, 16 is the age when the judge needs to take their wishes into account though.

Traumatized. How was that? Sounds like the judge thought visits were best. He can exercise on your time and not the few hours with dad, aunt and cousins.

It seems he is going on these runs to get away from his dad so doing it on his moms time would undermine the reason for doing it.

He runs pretty seriously, but the point in leaving would be to get away from and make a statement to his dad. Otherwise he’d go before or after.

He didn’t end up leaving, he ended up separating himself but not leaving the house.

He sounds like a spoiled brat. Call an emergency court hearing and stop visits. Or, offer no visits for no child support.

OP here, my kids' Dad is far from perfect, but he's not going to sell his right to visit his own children, or fail to support his kids out of spite. The fact that you'd even suggest that is a sign you are a terrible person.

OP, you are far from perfect either but you are basically saying you don't want child to visit dad. The entire point of this thread is how to get child out of visiting their father and the way you are doing it is to encourage him to go for a "run." So, you have two choices. Time to put aside your differences for your son's safe and work together or terminate all visitation but it sounds like the judge will not agree so your only option is to refuse visitation (like you want to) or have him agree. He should not have to pay child support if you want to be the only parent and stop his visits and not allow him to have any parenting input. Basically it comes down to money. If he's an ok Dad, you are the terrible person for posting this and finding ways to have your child get out of visitation. So, he clearly isn't that bad of a Dad or person per this latest post or you'd be in court with an emergency hearing. Stop the games.

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Anonymous wrote:Your son should see a therapist for coping skills. Look at DBT.
Have your son talk directly to the judge. See if he can do it in private.

My kid is in therapy. Choosing to take a break from someone who has traumatized you, and using healthy things like physical exercise to manage stress are coping skills.

They did talk to the judge last time. In MD, 16 is the age when the judge needs to take their wishes into account though.

Traumatized. How was that? Sounds like the judge thought visits were best. He can exercise on your time and not the few hours with dad, aunt and cousins.

It seems he is going on these runs to get away from his dad so doing it on his moms time would undermine the reason for doing it.

He runs pretty seriously, but the point in leaving would be to get away from and make a statement to his dad. Otherwise he’d go before or after.

He didn’t end up leaving, he ended up separating himself but not leaving the house.

He sounds like a spoiled brat. Call an emergency court hearing and stop visits. Or, offer no visits for no child support.

OP here, my kids' Dad is far from perfect, but he's not going to sell his right to visit his own children, or fail to support his kids out of spite. The fact that you'd even suggest that is a sign you are a terrible person.

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Anonymous wrote:Your son should see a therapist for coping skills. Look at DBT.
Have your son talk directly to the judge. See if he can do it in private.

My kid is in therapy. Choosing to take a break from someone who has traumatized you, and using healthy things like physical exercise to manage stress are coping skills.

They did talk to the judge last time. In MD, 16 is the age when the judge needs to take their wishes into account though.

Traumatized. How was that? Sounds like the judge thought visits were best. He can exercise on your time and not the few hours with dad, aunt and cousins.

It seems he is going on these runs to get away from his dad so doing it on his moms time would undermine the reason for doing it.

Sounds like mom encourages this behavior to ruin the relationship. She does nothing to help and only sabotage. A kid leaving home without permission should get consequences. .

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Anonymous wrote:Your son should see a therapist for coping skills. Look at DBT.
Have your son talk directly to the judge. See if he can do it in private.

My kid is in therapy. Choosing to take a break from someone who has traumatized you, and using healthy things like physical exercise to manage stress are coping skills.

They did talk to the judge last time. In MD, 16 is the age when the judge needs to take their wishes into account though.

Traumatized. How was that? Sounds like the judge thought visits were best. He can exercise on your time and not the few hours with dad, aunt and cousins.

It seems he is going on these runs to get away from his dad so doing it on his moms time would undermine the reason for doing it.

He runs pretty seriously, but the point in leaving would be to get away from and make a statement to his dad. Otherwise he’d go before or after.

He didn’t end up leaving, he ended up separating himself but not leaving the house.

He sounds like a spoiled brat. Call an emergency court hearing and stop visits. Or, offer no visits for no child support.