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Anonymous wrote:Spin-off from the other thread about dud adults. I personally know of 5 young adult males who would rather play video games than have a career. Several want to just stay home. While DD’s gal pals in undergrad all have internships across the US, all their guy friends from the same college are just home hanging out, working at cold stone, they didn’t even try for internships. At this rate, there won’t be enough worthy males in our society for our DDs to marry.

OP, we as a nation should be very, very concerned about this trend. It’s not a joke because many of these lonely guys are getting pulled into dark web and turning their frustration about their status on women and POC. We as a society need to invest in Real Life social engagements for our kids, especially our sons. And No, I don’t blame the education sector. I blame Right wing news telling our white sons they are being “replaced.”

It’s scary and dangerous.

Agreed. This fuels lots of dangerous groups, and probably the 1/6 rioters were among this group.

I do put some blame on schools at least at K-12 level. There's been such a focus on girls -- getting them to study STEM etc -- which is good of course -- that they lost focus of boys and the boys are falling behind. If it's a few boys, I'd say blame the parents, but it's such a large group that the cause is greater than just parenting.

I disagree. I have two older boys, both in STEM (one in med school) and it's still very very male dominated.

+1 The numbers bear this out by far. We don't need 'boys can code' groups--they still make up 75%+ of CS majors and engineering majors.

60% students in medical schools are female.

Medical school yes. But it is the only science/STEM related field that is not dominated by men.

Female doctors also burn out of the profession at an alarming rate, so those limited medical school spots are not being used optimally. It's a hornets nest that you can't speak honestly about.

Gosh I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that they have higher expectations placed on them at home than their male colleagues.

Careful down that “optimal use of seats” slope. You will find it’s not a good idea to accept men into undergraduate, since they drop out at such an alarming rate.

Anonymous wrote:No human being is a "dud." Some take longer to mature, but wow, this thread makes me sad

Beg to differ

Parents are gonna have to get comfortable with interracial relationships if sócio-economic status is a dealbreaker

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Anonymous wrote:We only really need a handful of men for breeding purposes. I expect my DDs and yours will have happy and fulfilling lives! It’s a big world.

I have often thought males at age 12 should (and I hate this description) be milked for sperm which is frozen and then we send them off to Venus (not Mars) to civilize and educate them. At age 25, if they pass rigorous tests for civilized behavior, then they get a passport good for five years. If, however, there are complaints from even one woman then they go back to Venus for a refresher course. They only get one chance. If they mess up a second time the they go to their home planet of Mars where they can be as big a slob as they wish.

Some may say this is draconian.

This is so ignorant. The man hatred on this thread is disgusting. Imagine if you talked about other groups of people like this.

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Anonymous wrote:Spin-off from the other thread about dud adults. I personally know of 5 young adult males who would rather play video games than have a career. Several want to just stay home. While DD’s gal pals in undergrad all have internships across the US, all their guy friends from the same college are just home hanging out, working at cold stone, they didn’t even try for internships. At this rate, there won’t be enough worthy males in our society for our DDs to marry.

OP, we as a nation should be very, very concerned about this trend. It’s not a joke because many of these lonely guys are getting pulled into dark web and turning their frustration about their status on women and POC. We as a society need to invest in Real Life social engagements for our kids, especially our sons. And No, I don’t blame the education sector. I blame Right wing news telling our white sons they are being “replaced.”

It’s scary and dangerous.

Agreed. This fuels lots of dangerous groups, and probably the 1/6 rioters were among this group.

I do put some blame on schools at least at K-12 level. There's been such a focus on girls -- getting them to study STEM etc -- which is good of course -- that they lost focus of boys and the boys are falling behind. If it's a few boys, I'd say blame the parents, but it's such a large group that the cause is greater than just parenting.

I disagree. I have two older boys, both in STEM (one in med school) and it's still very very male dominated.

+1 The numbers bear this out by far. We don't need 'boys can code' groups--they still make up 75%+ of CS majors and engineering majors.

60% students in medical schools are female.

Medical school yes. But it is the only science/STEM related field that is not dominated by men.

Female doctors also burn out of the profession at an alarming rate, so those limited medical school spots are not being used optimally. It's a hornets nest that you can't speak honestly about.

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Anonymous wrote:Spin-off from the other thread about dud adults. I personally know of 5 young adult males who would rather play video games than have a career. Several want to just stay home. While DD’s gal pals in undergrad all have internships across the US, all their guy friends from the same college are just home hanging out, working at cold stone, they didn’t even try for internships. At this rate, there won’t be enough worthy males in our society for our DDs to marry.

OP, we as a nation should be very, very concerned about this trend. It’s not a joke because many of these lonely guys are getting pulled into dark web and turning their frustration about their status on women and POC. We as a society need to invest in Real Life social engagements for our kids, especially our sons. And No, I don’t blame the education sector. I blame Right wing news telling our white sons they are being “replaced.”

It’s scary and dangerous.

Agreed. This fuels lots of dangerous groups, and probably the 1/6 rioters were among this group.

I do put some blame on schools at least at K-12 level. There's been such a focus on girls -- getting them to study STEM etc -- which is good of course -- that they lost focus of boys and the boys are falling behind. If it's a few boys, I'd say blame the parents, but it's such a large group that the cause is greater than just parenting.

I disagree. I have two older boys, both in STEM (one in med school) and it's still very very male dominated.

+1 The numbers bear this out by far. We don't need 'boys can code' groups--they still make up 75%+ of CS majors and engineering majors.

60% students in medical schools are female.

Medical school yes. But it is the only science/STEM related field that is not dominated by men.

Anonymous wrote:We only really need a handful of men for breeding purposes. I expect my DDs and yours will have happy and fulfilling lives! It’s a big world.

I have often thought males at age 12 should (and I hate this description) be milked for sperm which is frozen and then we send them off to Venus (not Mars) to civilize and educate them. At age 25, if they pass rigorous tests for civilized behavior, then they get a passport good for five years. If, however, there are complaints from even one woman then they go back to Venus for a refresher course. They only get one chance. If they mess up a second time the they go to their home planet of Mars where they can be as big a slob as they wish.

Some may say this is draconian.

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Anonymous wrote:There is absolutely no evidence that men are becoming worthless faster than women. Women now can't cook like their moms, can't clean like their moms, and a lot of them have worse bodies than their mom does NOW (like a 30 year older woman has less body fat). What do men have to look forward to?

This. Men are becoming useless duds, while women are becoming undesirable and lacking in good qualities. This forum is all about identity politics, so it’s ok to rag on men but not women, but in reality what we are witnessing is the degradation of society as a whole.

A difference is that women have become financially independent. Barbara had to remain a size 4 after three pregnancies in 6 years because she only had a high school diploma and how would she make it if Bob left her?

Anonymous wrote:Spin-off from the other thread about dud adults. I personally know of 5 young adult males who would rather play video games than have a career. Several want to just stay home. While DD’s gal pals in undergrad all have internships across the US, all their guy friends from the same college are just home hanging out, working at cold stone, they didn’t even try for internships. At this rate, there won’t be enough worthy males in our society for our DDs to marry.

What's wrong with working a job at cold stone?

No human being is a "dud." Some take longer to mature, but wow, this thread makes me sad

Anonymous wrote:God willing, they'll marry each other. If they decide to marry.

+1 😂

Seriously, I know who we/our kids are attracted to is inherent, not a choice. So it will be what it will be.

But I know quite a few awesome lesbian couples. Smart, loving, kind, and free of the external gender-stereotyping that tends to give men an extra, unearned boost just for doing the basics. (“Awww. Bob is leaving early to pick up his sick son. He’s such an INVOLVED dad!! 🙄) And far less drama, cheating, and abuse.

Seriously, my DD will choose her own partner, of course. But I can certainly see the upside to her if she chooses a woman who is as smart, mature, and kind as she is ….

Anonymous wrote:I have a son and a stepson and am raising them not to be duds. My son just quizzed his sister on her foreign language lesson while folding laundry and stepson just cleaned up the kitchen.

He is gay

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Anonymous wrote:This is my concern with my young adult DD. She’s been with her BF for five years. He dropped out of college after three semesters, while she graduated. He works retail maybe 30 hours a week and plays video games most of the rest of the time. I had hoped he’d go back to school, but that doesn’t look likely.

But she says she’s happy with him, so I have to just wish them the best. But I do worry.

If he is a good person and makes her happy and they ever married and had kids, she can be the major breadwinner and he can give more time to kuds and the household.

IDK. Someone devoting this much time to video games and sloth probably won’t be a good SAHP.

Yup. SAHP isn't an easy part time gig.

Haha, it sure is once the kids are older than 2. Take them to playground and plop on bench with phone like all the moms I see.

You still have to wake them up, feed them, dress them, clean up the mess in house, do grocery, cook dinner so you can take them out for some physical exercise and peer socializing, if you get a breather before taking them back, why is it considered such a luxury. Its not like working moms won't look at their phones if sitting there.

If you married a woman, she would help you with the chores more.

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Anonymous wrote:Spin-off from the other thread about dud adults. I personally know of 5 young adult males who would rather play video games than have a career. Several want to just stay home. While DD’s gal pals in undergrad all have internships across the US, all their guy friends from the same college are just home hanging out, working at cold stone, they didn’t even try for internships. At this rate, there won’t be enough worthy males in our society for our DDs to marry.

Why do you think so many women these days are LGBTQ? The answer to marry other women. Everything is better— the sex, the communication, the listening, plus the earning potential.

+1! I started dating women after my divorce, and now I don’t know why I married a man in the first place. Everything is better with a woman.

But I’m not gay!

Are you sure?

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Anonymous wrote:No video games have ever been allowed in our home. We emphasize athleticism and culture.

Lol

Recreating Sparta over here.