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Anonymous wrote:We knew this over a year ago.

Between the Covid restrictions and the ridiculous remote "learning," many people have decided they prefer the freedom red states have to offer.

That is why Covid policy is a big deal when voting. If you liked the blue states' policies, vote for them. I'll stick with the route the red states took.

I love the freedom that Texas gives women over their own bodies.

Versus the blue cities, like Los Angeles and NYC, who unethically pushed Covid vaccines on 12 year olds to attend public school.

No freedom for our families and our kids, I guess.

No one ever had to be vaccinated to attend school before, right? What a bunch of delusional dopes.

This is what is so bizarre to me. Even in college in the '90s I had to prove that I had basic vaccinations or a religious exemption. I had to provide vaccination records for my children's school and their daycares from the time that they started so at about 6 months. Never has it been so controversial until Trump told people to start drinking bleach.

It was controversial because the vaccine didnt go through the normal FDA process that assures safety. Im fully vaccinated, but it's not unreasonable for people to be wary of new vaccine with less stringent controls. Very frankly, I was glad I had no risk factors and had to wait at the back of the line.

That's not why it was controversial. That's an excuse some people gave. But they don't know anything about the other vaccines they take, don't know anything about the food they ingest, scarf down all manner of food and drugs that are bad for them, and didn't get the vaccine when it was well proven and received by millions upon millions of people without incident. So, it's clear that the "not sufficiently tested" explanation for reluctance was a pretext. For a variety of reasons, COVID mitigation efforts of all kinds became tribal and political. The vaccine became controversial because Trump supporters were opposed to COVID mitigation measures generally.

People who are hesitant to vaccinate themselves or their child with a vaccine that is still under EUA and wanted to wait, are not the same as people who wouldn't take a vaccine at all, who thought it made them magnetic, was population control, was killing people, that COVID was a hoax. Labeling all vaccine hesitancy as political is just not helping anyone, nor is it true.

The vaccines were approved by the CDC and are perfectly safe. Stop beating this dead horse.

You are misinformed. The pp is correct. Covid vaccines didnt go through the same testing and authorization requirements that normal drugs and vaccines go through. Here, let the FDA speak for themselves: https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/emergency-use-authorization-vaccines-explained

Yet when all was said and done, the vaccines DID end up with far more testing than most other drugs have ever had - and the result is that after hundreds and hundreds of millions of doses given, the number of actual proven cases where the vaccines did any meaningful damage was a microscopically small percentage, far smaller than most other vaccines and drugs on the market.

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Anonymous wrote:We knew this over a year ago.

Between the Covid restrictions and the ridiculous remote "learning," many people have decided they prefer the freedom red states have to offer.

That is why Covid policy is a big deal when voting. If you liked the blue states' policies, vote for them. I'll stick with the route the red states took.

freedom to own assault rifles

I would never buy an assault rifle, but I might consider a cuddle rifle.

Anonymous wrote:The development of the Covid vaccine was the crown jewel of the Trump Presidency. Trump himself crowed about the success of operation warp speed. He has had all three recommended doses and recommends that his supporters get it.

Republicans should be embracing the vaccine!

Mindless worshippers in a cult of personality/identity would excuse defend and celebrate anything done by their party or idol. There have to be some republicans/trump fans that think he always did right just as there are dems who nodded along with dems like Harris who said the shot wasn’t to be trusted because it was developed under Trump, and then nodded along when the Dems switched messaging after getting into office.

Just as they nodded along that protesting was dangerous and terrible when Americans wanted to open their businesses, then nodded along and agreed that protesting with a side of burning was necessary and righteous if it was against racism.

No principles and no scruples, just download and act out the program.

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Anonymous wrote:We knew this over a year ago.

Between the Covid restrictions and the ridiculous remote "learning," many people have decided they prefer the freedom red states have to offer.

That is why Covid policy is a big deal when voting. If you liked the blue states' policies, vote for them. I'll stick with the route the red states took.

I love the freedom that Texas gives women over their own bodies.

Versus the blue cities, like Los Angeles and NYC, who unethically pushed Covid vaccines on 12 year olds to attend public school.

No freedom for our families and our kids, I guess.

No one ever had to be vaccinated to attend school before, right? What a bunch of delusional dopes.

This is what is so bizarre to me. Even in college in the '90s I had to prove that I had basic vaccinations or a religious exemption. I had to provide vaccination records for my children's school and their daycares from the time that they started so at about 6 months. Never has it been so controversial until Trump told people to start drinking bleach.

It was controversial because the vaccine didnt go through the normal FDA process that assures safety. Im fully vaccinated, but it's not unreasonable for people to be wary of new vaccine with less stringent controls. Very frankly, I was glad I had no risk factors and had to wait at the back of the line.

That's not why it was controversial. That's an excuse some people gave. But they don't know anything about the other vaccines they take, don't know anything about the food they ingest, scarf down all manner of food and drugs that are bad for them, and didn't get the vaccine when it was well proven and received by millions upon millions of people without incident. So, it's clear that the "not sufficiently tested" explanation for reluctance was a pretext. For a variety of reasons, COVID mitigation efforts of all kinds became tribal and political. The vaccine became controversial because Trump supporters were opposed to COVID mitigation measures generally.

People who are hesitant to vaccinate themselves or their child with a vaccine that is still under EUA and wanted to wait, are not the same as people who wouldn't take a vaccine at all, who thought it made them magnetic, was population control, was killing people, that COVID was a hoax. Labeling all vaccine hesitancy as political is just not helping anyone, nor is it true.

Sorry, I don't buy that people who smoke, drink, and speed despite the known risks were "hesitant" because of their diligent assessment of the pros and cons of the EUA process and the attendant marginal risks of getting vaccinated.

We're not talking about the same people.

Yup. This isn’t about SE DC, it’s about red states.

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Anonymous wrote:We knew this over a year ago.

Between the Covid restrictions and the ridiculous remote "learning," many people have decided they prefer the freedom red states have to offer.

That is why Covid policy is a big deal when voting. If you liked the blue states' policies, vote for them. I'll stick with the route the red states took.

I love the freedom that Texas gives women over their own bodies.

Versus the blue cities, like Los Angeles and NYC, who unethically pushed Covid vaccines on 12 year olds to attend public school.

No freedom for our families and our kids, I guess.

No one ever had to be vaccinated to attend school before, right? What a bunch of delusional dopes.

This is what is so bizarre to me. Even in college in the '90s I had to prove that I had basic vaccinations or a religious exemption. I had to provide vaccination records for my children's school and their daycares from the time that they started so at about 6 months. Never has it been so controversial until Trump told people to start drinking bleach.

It was controversial because the vaccine didnt go through the normal FDA process that assures safety. Im fully vaccinated, but it's not unreasonable for people to be wary of new vaccine with less stringent controls. Very frankly, I was glad I had no risk factors and had to wait at the back of the line.

That's not why it was controversial. That's an excuse some people gave. But they don't know anything about the other vaccines they take, don't know anything about the food they ingest, scarf down all manner of food and drugs that are bad for them, and didn't get the vaccine when it was well proven and received by millions upon millions of people without incident. So, it's clear that the "not sufficiently tested" explanation for reluctance was a pretext. For a variety of reasons, COVID mitigation efforts of all kinds became tribal and political. The vaccine became controversial because Trump supporters were opposed to COVID mitigation measures generally.

People who are hesitant to vaccinate themselves or their child with a vaccine that is still under EUA and wanted to wait, are not the same as people who wouldn't take a vaccine at all, who thought it made them magnetic, was population control, was killing people, that COVID was a hoax. Labeling all vaccine hesitancy as political is just not helping anyone, nor is it true.

The vaccines were approved by the CDC and are perfectly safe. Stop beating this dead horse.

Bwahahahaha. The CDC. And you think trump people are stupid.
No the CDC does no such thing.

But Covid was a hoax!

The development of the Covid vaccine was the crown jewel of the Trump Presidency. Trump himself crowed about the success of operation warp speed. He has had all three recommended doses and recommends that his supporters get it.

Republicans should be embracing the vaccine!

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Anonymous wrote:We knew this over a year ago.

Between the Covid restrictions and the ridiculous remote "learning," many people have decided they prefer the freedom red states have to offer.

That is why Covid policy is a big deal when voting. If you liked the blue states' policies, vote for them. I'll stick with the route the red states took.

freedom to own assault rifles

They moved because it was spacious and cheap. They went, they saw, they are coming back in droves

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2022-manhattan-real-estate-moving-data/

But make sure teachers don't have rainbows in their classrooms. That kind of freedom is NOT allowed.

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Anonymous wrote:We knew this over a year ago.

Between the Covid restrictions and the ridiculous remote "learning," many people have decided they prefer the freedom red states have to offer.

That is why Covid policy is a big deal when voting. If you liked the blue states' policies, vote for them. I'll stick with the route the red states took.

freedom to own assault rifles

Its not required. But it is allowed.

Anonymous wrote:We knew this over a year ago.

Between the Covid restrictions and the ridiculous remote "learning," many people have decided they prefer the freedom red states have to offer.

That is why Covid policy is a big deal when voting. If you liked the blue states' policies, vote for them. I'll stick with the route the red states took.

freedom to own assault rifles

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Anonymous wrote:We knew this over a year ago.

Between the Covid restrictions and the ridiculous remote "learning," many people have decided they prefer the freedom red states have to offer.

That is why Covid policy is a big deal when voting. If you liked the blue states' policies, vote for them. I'll stick with the route the red states took.

I love the freedom that Texas gives women over their own bodies.

Versus the blue cities, like Los Angeles and NYC, who unethically pushed Covid vaccines on 12 year olds to attend public school.

No freedom for our families and our kids, I guess.

No one ever had to be vaccinated to attend school before, right? What a bunch of delusional dopes.

This is what is so bizarre to me. Even in college in the '90s I had to prove that I had basic vaccinations or a religious exemption. I had to provide vaccination records for my children's school and their daycares from the time that they started so at about 6 months. Never has it been so controversial until Trump told people to start drinking bleach.

It was controversial because the vaccine didnt go through the normal FDA process that assures safety. Im fully vaccinated, but it's not unreasonable for people to be wary of new vaccine with less stringent controls. Very frankly, I was glad I had no risk factors and had to wait at the back of the line.

That's not why it was controversial. That's an excuse some people gave. But they don't know anything about the other vaccines they take, don't know anything about the food they ingest, scarf down all manner of food and drugs that are bad for them, and didn't get the vaccine when it was well proven and received by millions upon millions of people without incident. So, it's clear that the "not sufficiently tested" explanation for reluctance was a pretext. For a variety of reasons, COVID mitigation efforts of all kinds became tribal and political. The vaccine became controversial because Trump supporters were opposed to COVID mitigation measures generally.

People who are hesitant to vaccinate themselves or their child with a vaccine that is still under EUA and wanted to wait, are not the same as people who wouldn't take a vaccine at all, who thought it made them magnetic, was population control, was killing people, that COVID was a hoax. Labeling all vaccine hesitancy as political is just not helping anyone, nor is it true.

Sorry, I don't buy that people who smoke, drink, and speed despite the known risks were "hesitant" because of their diligent assessment of the pros and cons of the EUA process and the attendant marginal risks of getting vaccinated.

We're not talking about the same people.

Dont you know that in order to discredit the opposition, you have to demonize them first?

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Anonymous wrote:We knew this over a year ago.

Between the Covid restrictions and the ridiculous remote "learning," many people have decided they prefer the freedom red states have to offer.

That is why Covid policy is a big deal when voting. If you liked the blue states' policies, vote for them. I'll stick with the route the red states took.

I love the freedom that Texas gives women over their own bodies.

Versus the blue cities, like Los Angeles and NYC, who unethically pushed Covid vaccines on 12 year olds to attend public school.

No freedom for our families and our kids, I guess.

No one ever had to be vaccinated to attend school before, right? What a bunch of delusional dopes.

This is what is so bizarre to me. Even in college in the '90s I had to prove that I had basic vaccinations or a religious exemption. I had to provide vaccination records for my children's school and their daycares from the time that they started so at about 6 months. Never has it been so controversial until Trump told people to start drinking bleach.

It was controversial because the vaccine didnt go through the normal FDA process that assures safety. Im fully vaccinated, but it's not unreasonable for people to be wary of new vaccine with less stringent controls. Very frankly, I was glad I had no risk factors and had to wait at the back of the line.

That's not why it was controversial. That's an excuse some people gave. But they don't know anything about the other vaccines they take, don't know anything about the food they ingest, scarf down all manner of food and drugs that are bad for them, and didn't get the vaccine when it was well proven and received by millions upon millions of people without incident. So, it's clear that the "not sufficiently tested" explanation for reluctance was a pretext. For a variety of reasons, COVID mitigation efforts of all kinds became tribal and political. The vaccine became controversial because Trump supporters were opposed to COVID mitigation measures generally.

People who are hesitant to vaccinate themselves or their child with a vaccine that is still under EUA and wanted to wait, are not the same as people who wouldn't take a vaccine at all, who thought it made them magnetic, was population control, was killing people, that COVID was a hoax. Labeling all vaccine hesitancy as political is just not helping anyone, nor is it true.

The vaccines were approved by the CDC and are perfectly safe. Stop beating this dead horse.

You are misinformed. The pp is correct. Covid vaccines didnt go through the same testing and authorization requirements that normal drugs and vaccines go through. Here, let the FDA speak for themselves: https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/emergency-use-authorization-vaccines-explained

Anonymous wrote:... aside from Texas and Florida there really isn't much to recover.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:We knew this over a year ago.

Between the Covid restrictions and the ridiculous remote "learning," many people have decided they prefer the freedom red states have to offer.

That is why Covid policy is a big deal when voting. If you liked the blue states' policies, vote for them. I'll stick with the route the red states took.

I love the freedom that Texas gives women over their own bodies.

Versus the blue cities, like Los Angeles and NYC, who unethically pushed Covid vaccines on 12 year olds to attend public school.

No freedom for our families and our kids, I guess.

No one ever had to be vaccinated to attend school before, right? What a bunch of delusional dopes.

This is what is so bizarre to me. Even in college in the '90s I had to prove that I had basic vaccinations or a religious exemption. I had to provide vaccination records for my children's school and their daycares from the time that they started so at about 6 months. Never has it been so controversial until Trump told people to start drinking bleach.

It was controversial because the vaccine didnt go through the normal FDA process that assures safety. Im fully vaccinated, but it's not unreasonable for people to be wary of new vaccine with less stringent controls. Very frankly, I was glad I had no risk factors and had to wait at the back of the line.

That's not why it was controversial. That's an excuse some people gave. But they don't know anything about the other vaccines they take, don't know anything about the food they ingest, scarf down all manner of food and drugs that are bad for them, and didn't get the vaccine when it was well proven and received by millions upon millions of people without incident. So, it's clear that the "not sufficiently tested" explanation for reluctance was a pretext. For a variety of reasons, COVID mitigation efforts of all kinds became tribal and political. The vaccine became controversial because Trump supporters were opposed to COVID mitigation measures generally.

People who are hesitant to vaccinate themselves or their child with a vaccine that is still under EUA and wanted to wait, are not the same as people who wouldn't take a vaccine at all, who thought it made them magnetic, was population control, was killing people, that COVID was a hoax. Labeling all vaccine hesitancy as political is just not helping anyone, nor is it true.

Sorry, I don't buy that people who smoke, drink, and speed despite the known risks were "hesitant" because of their diligent assessment of the pros and cons of the EUA process and the attendant marginal risks of getting vaccinated.

We're not talking about the same people.