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Anonymous wrote:The gleeful posters predicting the demise of Vandy have clearly never spent a few days in deep blue Nashville.

Agree. I don’t understand the Vandy bashing. Have all these posters actually experienced Vanderbilt and/or Nashville, especially in the last decade? There appears to be a contingent who believe that quality education occurs only in the NE. That sounds a tad closed-minded, obnoxious, and parochial.

Vanderbilt provides an excellent education, but if the citizens of Tennessee elect representatives who insist on laws that limit the rights of women, LGBTQ community members, non-whites, etc., it's going to be perceived by many as a less desirable place to get an education and will lose strong applicants because of this.

I'm a PP, I live in the District. I'm certain that a lot of Never South of the Mason-Dixon Line! But abortion! PPs are residents of Arlington, Bethesda, etc.

May I judge YOU because you live in states that elected Republican governors? Why don't you move? Is it OK if we think less of you because you share a state with many organized white supremacists in your western counties? Knowing this is absolutely true, why don't you move so you and your tender offspring can live in a pure, progressive locale like San Francisco?

Of course that's absurd. And so are you.

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Anonymous wrote:The gleeful posters predicting the demise of Vandy have clearly never spent a few days in deep blue Nashville.

Agree. I don’t understand the Vandy bashing. Have all these posters actually experienced Vanderbilt and/or Nashville, especially in the last decade? There appears to be a contingent who believe that quality education occurs only in the NE. That sounds a tad closed-minded, obnoxious, and parochial.

Vanderbilt provides an excellent education, but if the citizens of Tennessee elect representatives who insist on laws that limit the rights of women, LGBTQ community members, non-whites, etc., it's going to be perceived by many as a less desirable place to get an education and will lose strong applicants because of this.

I'm a PP, I live in the District. I'm certain that a lot of Never South of the Mason-Dixon Line! But abortion! PPs are residents of Arlington, Bethesda, etc.

May I judge YOU because you live in states that elected Republican governors? Why don't you move? Is it OK if we think less of you because you share a state with many organized white supremacists in your western counties? Knowing this is absolutely true, why don't you move so you and your tender offspring can live in a pure, progressive locale like San Francisco?

Of course that's absurd. And so are you.

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Anonymous wrote:The gleeful posters predicting the demise of Vandy have clearly never spent a few days in deep blue Nashville.

Agree. I don’t understand the Vandy bashing. Have all these posters actually experienced Vanderbilt and/or Nashville, especially in the last decade? There appears to be a contingent who believe that quality education occurs only in the NE. That sounds a tad closed-minded, obnoxious, and parochial.

Vanderbilt provides an excellent education, but if the citizens of Tennessee elect representatives who insist on laws that limit the rights of women, LGBTQ community members, non-whites, etc., it's going to be perceived by many as a less desirable place to get an education and will lose strong applicants because of this.

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Anonymous wrote:I personally think for a school to be considered elite it needs to be top 25 on USnews, Forbes, WSJ, or QS. Georgia Tech is not. However I'm sure they produce great engineers.

Just stop with this elite nonsense. There is no such thing in real life. No one cares if you went to Dartmouth.

Anonymous wrote:I personally think for a school to be considered elite it needs to be top 25 on USnews, Forbes, WSJ, or QS. Georgia Tech is not. However I'm sure they produce great engineers.

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Anonymous wrote:I personally think for a school to be considered elite it needs to be top 25 on USnews, Forbes, WSJ, or QS. Georgia Tech is not. However I'm sure they produce great engineers.

Georgia Tech is listed in the top 25 on USnews, Forbes, WSJ, or QS for Computer Science and other Engineering majors. Whether you accept it or not, it is a fact. Some people go by general ranking but rankings by major is more specific and better to look at when you are sure about what you want to major in.

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Anonymous wrote:My God. The WashU, Vandy, and Emory boosters on here are positively thirsty in this thread. Pipe down, y’all.

Ha! I don’t have a connection to any of these schools, but a quick review of the thread definitely shows it’s the reverse. That is, the haters came out first and frequently.

Anonymous wrote:My God. The WashU, Vandy, and Emory boosters on here are positively thirsty in this thread. Pipe down, y’all.

Anonymous wrote:I personally think for a school to be considered elite it needs to be top 25 on USnews, Forbes, WSJ, or QS. Georgia Tech is not. However I'm sure they produce great engineers.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on earlier comments, it sounds like people want to base academic rankings on job placement and salary statistics. Those two don’t necessarily correlate. If you’re comparing an Ivy classics major to a State U CS major, the comparison makes no sense from an academic perspective, but the CS major will have a higher salary. What’s the point of the ROI focus? To make the arts look bad? Don’t people already know which majors pay? ROI is a dumb way to rate academic excellence.

College degree is useless waste of money if you serve at a restaurant or make coffee at Starbucks afterwards.
It's not everything but most important factor

It works the other way too. Anyone who pays too dollar for a degree in a field which pays high salaries regardless of where your degree is from is throwing away their money. When you can do just as well in engineering or CS with a degree from Stat U, why pay 2-3 times as much as much?

That is like saying why go to a Michelin star restaurant when you can go to McDonald's and get a meal at lower price.

Getting a CS degree from GMU is not same as a CS degree from CMU.

True. But getting a CS degree from Georgia Tech ($50K OOS) is comparable to a CS degree from CMU ($80K OOS).

If you need aid, CMU will award it. Not going to get anything from a highly-ranked public as an OOS.

What is considered highly ranked is Georgia Tech highly ranked?

Georgia Tech is ranked #5 in Computer Science. Is being #5 highly ranked in your dictionary?

Yes, but that’s one program. How is it’s classics program? That’s why it’s not a highly ranked overall.

Georgia Tech doesn't even have a Classics Department and offers no classes in Greek or Latin. That doesn't make it a weaker choice, unless that matters to you. Just like Dartmouth not having a major in business doesn't make it a weaker choice for those who don't care about that.

What if your kid goes in for CS and then changes their mind? Lots of kids do that. I went in for Economics and ended up switching to Chemistry. Never imagined I would do that in HS.

So Dartmouth is no good because it doesn't offer the business degree that Georgia Tech does?

Overall, Dartmouth provides a much better education and admits higher quality students than GTech. That doesn’t mean GTech isn’t good for a CS degree and getting a high-paying CS job after college. But for those in the market for prestigious educational credentials, Dartmouth beats GTech.

Honestly, this is the first time I am hearing this i.e "provides a much better education and admits higher quality students than GTech" about Dartmouth. I haven't heard anyone applying to Dartmouth for any major in NoVA region.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on earlier comments, it sounds like people want to base academic rankings on job placement and salary statistics. Those two don’t necessarily correlate. If you’re comparing an Ivy classics major to a State U CS major, the comparison makes no sense from an academic perspective, but the CS major will have a higher salary. What’s the point of the ROI focus? To make the arts look bad? Don’t people already know which majors pay? ROI is a dumb way to rate academic excellence.

College degree is useless waste of money if you serve at a restaurant or make coffee at Starbucks afterwards.
It's not everything but most important factor

It works the other way too. Anyone who pays too dollar for a degree in a field which pays high salaries regardless of where your degree is from is throwing away their money. When you can do just as well in engineering or CS with a degree from Stat U, why pay 2-3 times as much as much?

That is like saying why go to a Michelin star restaurant when you can go to McDonald's and get a meal at lower price.

Getting a CS degree from GMU is not same as a CS degree from CMU.

True. But getting a CS degree from Georgia Tech ($50K OOS) is comparable to a CS degree from CMU ($80K OOS).

If you need aid, CMU will award it. Not going to get anything from a highly-ranked public as an OOS.

What is considered highly ranked is Georgia Tech highly ranked?

Georgia Tech is ranked #5 in Computer Science. Is being #5 highly ranked in your dictionary?

Yes, but that’s one program. How is it’s classics program? That’s why it’s not a highly ranked overall.

Georgia Tech doesn't even have a Classics Department and offers no classes in Greek or Latin. That doesn't make it a weaker choice, unless that matters to you. Just like Dartmouth not having a major in business doesn't make it a weaker choice for those who don't care about that.

What if your kid goes in for CS and then changes their mind? Lots of kids do that. I went in for Economics and ended up switching to Chemistry. Never imagined I would do that in HS.

So Dartmouth is no good because it doesn't offer the business degree that Georgia Tech does?

Overall, Dartmouth provides a much better education and admits higher quality students than GTech. That doesn’t mean GTech isn’t good for a CS degree and getting a high-paying CS job after college. But for those in the market for prestigious educational credentials, Dartmouth beats GTech.

Honestly, this is the first time I am hearing this i.e "provides a much better education and admits higher quality students than GTech" about Dartmouth. I haven't heard anyone applying to Dartmouth for any major in NoVA region.

Dartmouth is a significant notch above GT. Just look at the stats of admitted students. And the undergraduate experience at Dartmouth is unparalleled with the possible exception of Princeton.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on earlier comments, it sounds like people want to base academic rankings on job placement and salary statistics. Those two don’t necessarily correlate. If you’re comparing an Ivy classics major to a State U CS major, the comparison makes no sense from an academic perspective, but the CS major will have a higher salary. What’s the point of the ROI focus? To make the arts look bad? Don’t people already know which majors pay? ROI is a dumb way to rate academic excellence.

College degree is useless waste of money if you serve at a restaurant or make coffee at Starbucks afterwards.
It's not everything but most important factor

It works the other way too. Anyone who pays too dollar for a degree in a field which pays high salaries regardless of where your degree is from is throwing away their money. When you can do just as well in engineering or CS with a degree from Stat U, why pay 2-3 times as much as much?

That is like saying why go to a Michelin star restaurant when you can go to McDonald's and get a meal at lower price.

Getting a CS degree from GMU is not same as a CS degree from CMU.

True. But getting a CS degree from Georgia Tech ($50K OOS) is comparable to a CS degree from CMU ($80K OOS).

If you need aid, CMU will award it. Not going to get anything from a highly-ranked public as an OOS.

What is considered highly ranked is Georgia Tech highly ranked?

Georgia Tech is ranked #5 in Computer Science. Is being #5 highly ranked in your dictionary?

Yes, but that’s one program. How is it’s classics program? That’s why it’s not a highly ranked overall.

Georgia Tech doesn't even have a Classics Department and offers no classes in Greek or Latin. That doesn't make it a weaker choice, unless that matters to you. Just like Dartmouth not having a major in business doesn't make it a weaker choice for those who don't care about that.

What if your kid goes in for CS and then changes their mind? Lots of kids do that. I went in for Economics and ended up switching to Chemistry. Never imagined I would do that in HS.

So Dartmouth is no good because it doesn't offer the business degree that Georgia Tech does?

Overall, Dartmouth provides a much better education and admits higher quality students than GTech. That doesn’t mean GTech isn’t good for a CS degree and getting a high-paying CS job after college. But for those in the market for prestigious educational credentials, Dartmouth beats GTech.

Honestly, this is the first time I am hearing this i.e "provides a much better education and admits higher quality students than GTech" about Dartmouth. I haven't heard anyone applying to Dartmouth for any major in NoVA region.

Dartmouth is a significant notch above GT. Just look at the stats of admitted students. And the undergraduate experience at Dartmouth is unparalleled with the possible exception of Princeton.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on earlier comments, it sounds like people want to base academic rankings on job placement and salary statistics. Those two don’t necessarily correlate. If you’re comparing an Ivy classics major to a State U CS major, the comparison makes no sense from an academic perspective, but the CS major will have a higher salary. What’s the point of the ROI focus? To make the arts look bad? Don’t people already know which majors pay? ROI is a dumb way to rate academic excellence.

College degree is useless waste of money if you serve at a restaurant or make coffee at Starbucks afterwards.
It's not everything but most important factor

It works the other way too. Anyone who pays too dollar for a degree in a field which pays high salaries regardless of where your degree is from is throwing away their money. When you can do just as well in engineering or CS with a degree from Stat U, why pay 2-3 times as much as much?

That is like saying why go to a Michelin star restaurant when you can go to McDonald's and get a meal at lower price.

Getting a CS degree from GMU is not same as a CS degree from CMU.

True. But getting a CS degree from Georgia Tech ($50K OOS) is comparable to a CS degree from CMU ($80K OOS).

If you need aid, CMU will award it. Not going to get anything from a highly-ranked public as an OOS.

What is considered highly ranked is Georgia Tech highly ranked?

Georgia Tech is ranked #5 in Computer Science. Is being #5 highly ranked in your dictionary?

Yes, but that’s one program. How is it’s classics program? That’s why it’s not a highly ranked overall.

Georgia Tech doesn't even have a Classics Department and offers no classes in Greek or Latin. That doesn't make it a weaker choice, unless that matters to you. Just like Dartmouth not having a major in business doesn't make it a weaker choice for those who don't care about that.

What if your kid goes in for CS and then changes their mind? Lots of kids do that. I went in for Economics and ended up switching to Chemistry. Never imagined I would do that in HS.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on earlier comments, it sounds like people want to base academic rankings on job placement and salary statistics. Those two don’t necessarily correlate. If you’re comparing an Ivy classics major to a State U CS major, the comparison makes no sense from an academic perspective, but the CS major will have a higher salary. What’s the point of the ROI focus? To make the arts look bad? Don’t people already know which majors pay? ROI is a dumb way to rate academic excellence.

College degree is useless waste of money if you serve at a restaurant or make coffee at Starbucks afterwards.
It's not everything but most important factor

It works the other way too. Anyone who pays too dollar for a degree in a field which pays high salaries regardless of where your degree is from is throwing away their money. When you can do just as well in engineering or CS with a degree from Stat U, why pay 2-3 times as much as much?

That is like saying why go to a Michelin star restaurant when you can go to McDonald's and get a meal at lower price.

Getting a CS degree from GMU is not same as a CS degree from CMU.

True. But getting a CS degree from Georgia Tech ($50K OOS) is comparable to a CS degree from CMU ($80K OOS).

If you need aid, CMU will award it. Not going to get anything from a highly-ranked public as an OOS.

What is considered highly ranked is Georgia Tech highly ranked?

Georgia Tech is ranked #5 in Computer Science. Is being #5 highly ranked in your dictionary?

Yes, but that’s one program. How is it’s classics program? That’s why it’s not a highly ranked overall.

Georgia Tech doesn't even have a Classics Department and offers no classes in Greek or Latin. That doesn't make it a weaker choice, unless that matters to you. Just like Dartmouth not having a major in business doesn't make it a weaker choice for those who don't care about that.

What if your kid goes in for CS and then changes their mind? Lots of kids do that. I went in for Economics and ended up switching to Chemistry. Never imagined I would do that in HS.

So Dartmouth is no good because it doesn't offer the business degree that Georgia Tech does?

Overall, Dartmouth provides a much better education and admits higher quality students than GTech. That doesn’t mean GTech isn’t good for a CS degree and getting a high-paying CS job after college. But for those in the market for prestigious educational credentials, Dartmouth beats GTech.

Honestly, this is the first time I am hearing this i.e "provides a much better education and admits higher quality students than GTech" about Dartmouth. I haven't heard anyone applying to Dartmouth for any major in NoVA region.