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Anonymous wrote:I hope the teachers who didn't want to work in person in the fall 2020 are leaving. Schools were safely open in Europe, public and private schools were safely open in red areas, and private schools were safely open in deep blue areas, including NOVA. They didn't care one bit about the kids, especially the underprivileged kids who were hurt the most. Go find another profession.

One of my favorite tropes from the era of virtual learning making a comeback:

Using underprivileged kids as a pawn for your disagreement for how schools were managed despite never caring about them before

Or without looking at data that showed those same kids were more likely to stay virtual for the remainder of the year

This is because the return to school was a logistical cluster. 2 days on, mid afternoon pick ups, standing in line waiting to get checked etc. when school went back to normal in the fall of 2021 and virtual was offered to anyone, very few took it.

That wasn’t true at my school (22204) where many families told us the reason they kept their children virtual was because there were vulnerable family members at home.

Uh huh. So what changed just a few months later in Fall 2021 in the midst of the Delta wave? When all those families chose to send kids back?

Um, vaccines?

Vaccines were available when kids went back spring 2021.

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Anonymous wrote:So many of these parents who are bashing teachers for not wanting to go back in right away are STILL working from their own homes!

That's the key here. The parents are at home because the office isn't safe from covid. But they're more than happy to send kids and teachers back into the building.

The narcissism in this dichotomy is crazy!

And they have no perspective because they never been in the position of being forced back. It’s do what I say not do what I do.

Anonymous wrote:So many of these parents who are bashing teachers for not wanting to go back in right away are STILL working from their own homes!

That's the key here. The parents are at home because the office isn't safe from covid. But they're more than happy to send kids and teachers back into the building.

The narcissism in this dichotomy is crazy!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the teachers who didn't want to work in person in the fall 2020 are leaving. Schools were safely open in Europe, public and private schools were safely open in red areas, and private schools were safely open in deep blue areas, including NOVA. They didn't care one bit about the kids, especially the underprivileged kids who were hurt the most. Go find another profession.

One of my favorite tropes from the era of virtual learning making a comeback:

Using underprivileged kids as a pawn for your disagreement for how schools were managed despite never caring about them before

Or without looking at data that showed those same kids were more likely to stay virtual for the remainder of the year

This is because the return to school was a logistical cluster. 2 days on, mid afternoon pick ups, standing in line waiting to get checked etc. when school went back to normal in the fall of 2021 and virtual was offered to anyone, very few took it.

That wasn’t true at my school (22204) where many families told us the reason they kept their children virtual was because there were vulnerable family members at home.

Uh huh. So what changed just a few months later in Fall 2021 in the midst of the Delta wave? When all those families chose to send kids back?

Um, vaccines?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the teachers who didn't want to work in person in the fall 2020 are leaving. Schools were safely open in Europe, public and private schools were safely open in red areas, and private schools were safely open in deep blue areas, including NOVA. They didn't care one bit about the kids, especially the underprivileged kids who were hurt the most. Go find another profession.

I’m sorry that I put my family first in trying to protect my highly immunocompromised (on chemo) partner by seeking (and receiving) an ADA exemption from returning in-person during fall 2020. I definitely should have put them at risk so that your child could get out of your hair.
-a teacher

Teacher,

You don't need to provide a reason. Most people would have made the same choice you did. Ignore the troll. You did the right thing and you don't need to defend your choice.

Parent

Many people didn’t have that choice. Right or wrong. ADA is not any kind of guarantee. The employer needs to make reasonable accommodations and if they can’t, you lose your job. Schools in some places decided it was reasonable to let workers do their jobs from home. And we all know public schools were not going to go out of business making that decision.

Do we need to go through the professions where people had no choice and kept going to work if they wanted a paycheck. So many.

I don’t have a particular problem with what went down and I’m glad teachers were safe and their families too. But I do think teachers need to recognize how lucky they were to keep jobs and not have to endanger themselves at all when many workers didn’t have that option. This path was not an entitlement it was a gift and lots of teachers in other parts of the country didn’t get that gift.

LOL. Mow you're just making things up.

You are wrong on all counts.

APA's distance learning programming during the Fall of 2020 was NOT at all about ADA. It was a school district choice to keep learning virtual and keep students, staff and families safe. Stop ignoring the facts and spewing lies. ADA had NOTHING to do with it.

- a parent

First to address the poster way above, a person with an immunocompromised partner at home would not qualify for ADA. The worker who requests an ADA accommodation must have the disability. You might have used the ADA process and your employer might have let you stay home anyway, but that decision had zero legal basis under ADA.

I agree the distance learning program was not entirely about ADA but the number of people seeking out ADA accommodations was certainly a factor in the school district deciding to go virtual. The school district was faced with telling all those people to come in or they were fired at a time when they already were having a lot of labor problems. In general, the discomfort of teachers was a factor in the decision to stay virtual in Fall 2020.

Sorry if you think it's a lie. It's not. I'm not going to tell you my exact job but I can tell you with certainty none of the above is a lie.

NP. Nope.

The ADA also explicitly guarantees that "Persons discriminated against because they have a known association or relationship with a disabled individual also are protected" -- and those people can apply for protection under the ADA, although they do not have the disability themselves.

That doesn't mean this was why PP was granted WFH, but your post was not completely correct.

https://www.eeoc.gov/fact-sheet/ada-questions-and-answers

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the teachers who didn't want to work in person in the fall 2020 are leaving. Schools were safely open in Europe, public and private schools were safely open in red areas, and private schools were safely open in deep blue areas, including NOVA. They didn't care one bit about the kids, especially the underprivileged kids who were hurt the most. Go find another profession.

I’m sorry that I put my family first in trying to protect my highly immunocompromised (on chemo) partner by seeking (and receiving) an ADA exemption from returning in-person during fall 2020. I definitely should have put them at risk so that your child could get out of your hair.
-a teacher

Teacher,

You don't need to provide a reason. Most people would have made the same choice you did. Ignore the troll. You did the right thing and you don't need to defend your choice.

Parent

Many people didn’t have that choice. Right or wrong. ADA is not any kind of guarantee. The employer needs to make reasonable accommodations and if they can’t, you lose your job. Schools in some places decided it was reasonable to let workers do their jobs from home. And we all know public schools were not going to go out of business making that decision.

Do we need to go through the professions where people had no choice and kept going to work if they wanted a paycheck. So many.

I don’t have a particular problem with what went down and I’m glad teachers were safe and their families too. But I do think teachers need to recognize how lucky they were to keep jobs and not have to endanger themselves at all when many workers didn’t have that option. This path was not an entitlement it was a gift and lots of teachers in other parts of the country didn’t get that gift.

So you agree workers in the US are taken advantage of constantly on almost all fronts by their employers (who have bought their elected and appointed officials) and need to collectively unite in order for real change to happen.

Walk me through what it looks like for you once the the nurses and doctors, grocery workers, bus drivers, police offers, firefighters, EMT workers, water and sewer plant workers, trash pickup teams, road maintenance crews, long haul truckers, pharmacists, and hospital workers among many jobs have collectively united and decided during a pandemic they are not going to show up to work.

What happens next?

Hey bootlicker,

People want to work. People also people also want to be treated humanely, paid a living wage and have risks (like adverse effects to physical and mental health) minimized.

Ok so you have no answer. Got it.

Some people in this pandemic had jobs that did not involve sitting home . I have one of them. I was not treated inhumanely. It was just the job. If I could no longer perform my job during a pandemic, I needed to quit.

Your fantasy of the proletariat uniting and rising up to do…what exactly…against the big bad “man” who is out to get them is naive and ridiculous.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the teachers who didn't want to work in person in the fall 2020 are leaving. Schools were safely open in Europe, public and private schools were safely open in red areas, and private schools were safely open in deep blue areas, including NOVA. They didn't care one bit about the kids, especially the underprivileged kids who were hurt the most. Go find another profession.

I’m sorry that I put my family first in trying to protect my highly immunocompromised (on chemo) partner by seeking (and receiving) an ADA exemption from returning in-person during fall 2020. I definitely should have put them at risk so that your child could get out of your hair.
-a teacher

Teacher,

You don't need to provide a reason. Most people would have made the same choice you did. Ignore the troll. You did the right thing and you don't need to defend your choice.

Parent

Many people didn’t have that choice. Right or wrong. ADA is not any kind of guarantee. The employer needs to make reasonable accommodations and if they can’t, you lose your job. Schools in some places decided it was reasonable to let workers do their jobs from home. And we all know public schools were not going to go out of business making that decision.

Do we need to go through the professions where people had no choice and kept going to work if they wanted a paycheck. So many.

I don’t have a particular problem with what went down and I’m glad teachers were safe and their families too. But I do think teachers need to recognize how lucky they were to keep jobs and not have to endanger themselves at all when many workers didn’t have that option. This path was not an entitlement it was a gift and lots of teachers in other parts of the country didn’t get that gift.

So you agree workers in the US are taken advantage of constantly on almost all fronts by their employers (who have bought their elected and appointed officials) and need to collectively unite in order for real change to happen.

Walk me through what it looks like for you once the the nurses and doctors, grocery workers, bus drivers, police offers, firefighters, EMT workers, water and sewer plant workers, trash pickup teams, road maintenance crews, long haul truckers, pharmacists, and hospital workers among many jobs have collectively united and decided during a pandemic they are not going to show up to work.

What happens next?

Just wait, when unemployment jumps to 10-15% these jobs will be much easier to fill.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the teachers who didn't want to work in person in the fall 2020 are leaving. Schools were safely open in Europe, public and private schools were safely open in red areas, and private schools were safely open in deep blue areas, including NOVA. They didn't care one bit about the kids, especially the underprivileged kids who were hurt the most. Go find another profession.

I’m sorry that I put my family first in trying to protect my highly immunocompromised (on chemo) partner by seeking (and receiving) an ADA exemption from returning in-person during fall 2020. I definitely should have put them at risk so that your child could get out of your hair.
-a teacher

Teacher,

You don't need to provide a reason. Most people would have made the same choice you did. Ignore the troll. You did the right thing and you don't need to defend your choice.

Parent

Many people didn’t have that choice. Right or wrong. ADA is not any kind of guarantee. The employer needs to make reasonable accommodations and if they can’t, you lose your job. Schools in some places decided it was reasonable to let workers do their jobs from home. And we all know public schools were not going to go out of business making that decision.

Do we need to go through the professions where people had no choice and kept going to work if they wanted a paycheck. So many.

I don’t have a particular problem with what went down and I’m glad teachers were safe and their families too. But I do think teachers need to recognize how lucky they were to keep jobs and not have to endanger themselves at all when many workers didn’t have that option. This path was not an entitlement it was a gift and lots of teachers in other parts of the country didn’t get that gift.

So you agree workers in the US are taken advantage of constantly on almost all fronts by their employers (who have bought their elected and appointed officials) and need to collectively unite in order for real change to happen.

Walk me through what it looks like for you once the the nurses and doctors, grocery workers, bus drivers, police offers, firefighters, EMT workers, water and sewer plant workers, trash pickup teams, road maintenance crews, long haul truckers, pharmacists, and hospital workers among many jobs have collectively united and decided during a pandemic they are not going to show up to work.

What happens next?

Hey bootlicker,

People want to work. People also people also want to be treated humanely, paid a living wage and have risks (like adverse effects to physical and mental health) minimized.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the teachers who didn't want to work in person in the fall 2020 are leaving. Schools were safely open in Europe, public and private schools were safely open in red areas, and private schools were safely open in deep blue areas, including NOVA. They didn't care one bit about the kids, especially the underprivileged kids who were hurt the most. Go find another profession.

I’m sorry that I put my family first in trying to protect my highly immunocompromised (on chemo) partner by seeking (and receiving) an ADA exemption from returning in-person during fall 2020. I definitely should have put them at risk so that your child could get out of your hair.
-a teacher

Teacher,

You don't need to provide a reason. Most people would have made the same choice you did. Ignore the troll. You did the right thing and you don't need to defend your choice.

Parent

Many people didn’t have that choice. Right or wrong. ADA is not any kind of guarantee. The employer needs to make reasonable accommodations and if they can’t, you lose your job. Schools in some places decided it was reasonable to let workers do their jobs from home. And we all know public schools were not going to go out of business making that decision.

Do we need to go through the professions where people had no choice and kept going to work if they wanted a paycheck. So many.

I don’t have a particular problem with what went down and I’m glad teachers were safe and their families too. But I do think teachers need to recognize how lucky they were to keep jobs and not have to endanger themselves at all when many workers didn’t have that option. This path was not an entitlement it was a gift and lots of teachers in other parts of the country didn’t get that gift.

So you agree workers in the US are taken advantage of constantly on almost all fronts by their employers (who have bought their elected and appointed officials) and need to collectively unite in order for real change to happen.

Walk me through what it looks like for you once the the nurses and doctors, grocery workers, bus drivers, police offers, firefighters, EMT workers, water and sewer plant workers, trash pickup teams, road maintenance crews, long haul truckers, pharmacists, and hospital workers among many jobs have collectively united and decided during a pandemic they are not going to show up to work.

What happens next?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the teachers who didn't want to work in person in the fall 2020 are leaving. Schools were safely open in Europe, public and private schools were safely open in red areas, and private schools were safely open in deep blue areas, including NOVA. They didn't care one bit about the kids, especially the underprivileged kids who were hurt the most. Go find another profession.

I’m sorry that I put my family first in trying to protect my highly immunocompromised (on chemo) partner by seeking (and receiving) an ADA exemption from returning in-person during fall 2020. I definitely should have put them at risk so that your child could get out of your hair.
-a teacher

Teacher,

You don't need to provide a reason. Most people would have made the same choice you did. Ignore the troll. You did the right thing and you don't need to defend your choice.

Parent

Many people didn’t have that choice. Right or wrong. ADA is not any kind of guarantee. The employer needs to make reasonable accommodations and if they can’t, you lose your job. Schools in some places decided it was reasonable to let workers do their jobs from home. And we all know public schools were not going to go out of business making that decision.

Do we need to go through the professions where people had no choice and kept going to work if they wanted a paycheck. So many.

I don’t have a particular problem with what went down and I’m glad teachers were safe and their families too. But I do think teachers need to recognize how lucky they were to keep jobs and not have to endanger themselves at all when many workers didn’t have that option. This path was not an entitlement it was a gift and lots of teachers in other parts of the country didn’t get that gift.

LOL. Mow you're just making things up.

You are wrong on all counts.

APA's distance learning programming during the Fall of 2020 was NOT at all about ADA. It was a school district choice to keep learning virtual and keep students, staff and families safe. Stop ignoring the facts and spewing lies. ADA had NOTHING to do with it.

- a parent

First to address the poster way above, a person with an immunocompromised partner at home would not qualify for ADA. The worker who requests an ADA accommodation must have the disability. You might have used the ADA process and your employer might have let you stay home anyway, but that decision had zero legal basis under ADA.

I agree the distance learning program was not entirely about ADA but the number of people seeking out ADA accommodations was certainly a factor in the school district deciding to go virtual. The school district was faced with telling all those people to come in or they were fired at a time when they already were having a lot of labor problems. In general, the discomfort of teachers was a factor in the decision to stay virtual in Fall 2020.

Sorry if you think it's a lie. It's not. I'm not going to tell you my exact job but I can tell you with certainty none of the above is a lie.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the teachers who didn't want to work in person in the fall 2020 are leaving. Schools were safely open in Europe, public and private schools were safely open in red areas, and private schools were safely open in deep blue areas, including NOVA. They didn't care one bit about the kids, especially the underprivileged kids who were hurt the most. Go find another profession.

One of my favorite tropes from the era of virtual learning making a comeback:

Using underprivileged kids as a pawn for your disagreement for how schools were managed despite never caring about them before

Or without looking at data that showed those same kids were more likely to stay virtual for the remainder of the year

This is because the return to school was a logistical cluster. 2 days on, mid afternoon pick ups, standing in line waiting to get checked etc. when school went back to normal in the fall of 2021 and virtual was offered to anyone, very few took it.

That wasn’t true at my school (22204) where many families told us the reason they kept their children virtual was because there were vulnerable family members at home.

Uh huh. So what changed just a few months later in Fall 2021 in the midst of the Delta wave? When all those families chose to send kids back?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the teachers who didn't want to work in person in the fall 2020 are leaving. Schools were safely open in Europe, public and private schools were safely open in red areas, and private schools were safely open in deep blue areas, including NOVA. They didn't care one bit about the kids, especially the underprivileged kids who were hurt the most. Go find another profession.

I’m sorry that I put my family first in trying to protect my highly immunocompromised (on chemo) partner by seeking (and receiving) an ADA exemption from returning in-person during fall 2020. I definitely should have put them at risk so that your child could get out of your hair.
-a teacher

Teacher,

You don't need to provide a reason. Most people would have made the same choice you did. Ignore the troll. You did the right thing and you don't need to defend your choice.

Parent

Many people didn’t have that choice. Right or wrong. ADA is not any kind of guarantee. The employer needs to make reasonable accommodations and if they can’t, you lose your job. Schools in some places decided it was reasonable to let workers do their jobs from home. And we all know public schools were not going to go out of business making that decision.

Do we need to go through the professions where people had no choice and kept going to work if they wanted a paycheck. So many.

I don’t have a particular problem with what went down and I’m glad teachers were safe and their families too. But I do think teachers need to recognize how lucky they were to keep jobs and not have to endanger themselves at all when many workers didn’t have that option. This path was not an entitlement it was a gift and lots of teachers in other parts of the country didn’t get that gift.

So you agree workers in the US are taken advantage of constantly on almost all fronts by their employers (who have bought their elected and appointed officials) and need to collectively unite in order for real change to happen.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the teachers who didn't want to work in person in the fall 2020 are leaving. Schools were safely open in Europe, public and private schools were safely open in red areas, and private schools were safely open in deep blue areas, including NOVA. They didn't care one bit about the kids, especially the underprivileged kids who were hurt the most. Go find another profession.

I’m sorry that I put my family first in trying to protect my highly immunocompromised (on chemo) partner by seeking (and receiving) an ADA exemption from returning in-person during fall 2020. I definitely should have put them at risk so that your child could get out of your hair.
-a teacher

Teacher,

You don't need to provide a reason. Most people would have made the same choice you did. Ignore the troll. You did the right thing and you don't need to defend your choice.

Parent

Many people didn’t have that choice. Right or wrong. ADA is not any kind of guarantee. The employer needs to make reasonable accommodations and if they can’t, you lose your job. Schools in some places decided it was reasonable to let workers do their jobs from home. And we all know public schools were not going to go out of business making that decision.

Do we need to go through the professions where people had no choice and kept going to work if they wanted a paycheck. So many.

I don’t have a particular problem with what went down and I’m glad teachers were safe and their families too. But I do think teachers need to recognize how lucky they were to keep jobs and not have to endanger themselves at all when many workers didn’t have that option. This path was not an entitlement it was a gift and lots of teachers in other parts of the country didn’t get that gift.

LOL. Mow you're just making things up.

You are wrong on all counts.

APA's distance learning programming during the Fall of 2020 was NOT at all about ADA. It was a school district choice to keep learning virtual and keep students, staff and families safe. Stop ignoring the facts and spewing lies. ADA had NOTHING to do with it.

- a parent

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the teachers who didn't want to work in person in the fall 2020 are leaving. Schools were safely open in Europe, public and private schools were safely open in red areas, and private schools were safely open in deep blue areas, including NOVA. They didn't care one bit about the kids, especially the underprivileged kids who were hurt the most. Go find another profession.

One of my favorite tropes from the era of virtual learning making a comeback:

Using underprivileged kids as a pawn for your disagreement for how schools were managed despite never caring about them before

Or without looking at data that showed those same kids were more likely to stay virtual for the remainder of the year

This is because the return to school was a logistical cluster. 2 days on, mid afternoon pick ups, standing in line waiting to get checked etc. when school went back to normal in the fall of 2021 and virtual was offered to anyone, very few took it.

That wasn’t true at my school (22204) where many families told us the reason they kept their children virtual was because there were vulnerable family members at home.

There were lots of complaints at school board meetings from the Latino community about inaccessibility to school bus stops and lack of before and after care.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the teachers who didn't want to work in person in the fall 2020 are leaving. Schools were safely open in Europe, public and private schools were safely open in red areas, and private schools were safely open in deep blue areas, including NOVA. They didn't care one bit about the kids, especially the underprivileged kids who were hurt the most. Go find another profession.

One of my favorite tropes from the era of virtual learning making a comeback:

Using underprivileged kids as a pawn for your disagreement for how schools were managed despite never caring about them before

Or without looking at data that showed those same kids were more likely to stay virtual for the remainder of the year

This is because the return to school was a logistical cluster. 2 days on, mid afternoon pick ups, standing in line waiting to get checked etc. when school went back to normal in the fall of 2021 and virtual was offered to anyone, very few took it.

That wasn’t true at my school (22204) where many families told us the reason they kept their children virtual was because there were vulnerable family members at home.