Anonymous
05/18/2022 14:54
Subject: 2022 graduation without any jobs offered
It's not a "kid" it's a 22 or 23 year old unemployed man with an elite UVA bachelor's degree. Meanwhile, our Facebook feed right now is loaded with dozens of middle class kids of frankly average intellect graduating from low tier degree mills with job offers in Washington, Charlotte, Houston, Austin, Nashville, and Atlanta. Meaning they not only had great internships last summer, they parlayed them into job offers, and they have everything lined up to make a big move away from home. While OP's kid has done literally nothing. To pretend this is normal or pretend it's not a big deal is a lie and a total disservice to parents going through similar.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 14:41
Subject: 2022 graduation without any jobs offered
Closer to 140K-150K now, honestly
Anonymous
05/18/2022 14:35
Subject: Re:2022 graduation without any jobs offered
Anonymous wrote:I'd be really upset if my college grad hadn't been applying to and interviewing for jobs all of senior year. They should have been hustling for a post-graduation job all year (and also as a junior for internships that could turn into a job). If nothing had worked out in their intended field by now, I'd expect them to have a new plan to explore other options with a broader search.
It’s even worse. I see no mention the kid did anything last summer either, so that’s the last TWO years wasted. But of course a handful here will pretend it’s no big deal the kid just wasted $120K on an “education.” All that education to return home to the parents house in June to play video games and eat frozen pizzas. While mom and her internet friends blame Covid-19.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 14:33
Subject: 2022 graduation without any jobs offered
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's been what two weeks?
It's very, VERY sketchy to not have a job locked up by graduation. Most college seniors had full-time offers in their pocket by July or August from their summer internship last year (2021). Worst-case you're doing on campus recruiting and have something locked up by Sept.-Oct. December at the very latest. OP's kid has issues.
As others have said this poster is out of her mind. Anyone adult who uses the word “sketchy” in such a context should not be listened to. To OP: UVA has an excellent career counseling office. Your child should make contact now.
Career counselors weeks after graduating? Ma’am, if the kid didn’t call, zoom or visit that office one darn time in 4 years they aren’t going to now. They are who they are: lazy and unfocused. The only people defending OP’s kid are those with lazy kids of their own. OP and/or the generous financial aid office at UVA just wasted $120,000 educating this young man. And he’s a workshy child.
Are you a SAH parent who has never worked? You don’t seem to understand how college career offices work.
You also don’t seem to have a real grasp of how real people’s careers work.
I graduated with zero office job experience. I tended bar for a year, then got an MBA at a top ranked school. Graduated with a job and have worked in multiple fields/jobs. Not a linear path, but it’s been fun and very lucrative.
Your notion that all is lost if a kid doesn’t have a job at graduation is just silly.
If what you said is true you’d realize how abnormal that “path” is.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 14:32
Subject: 2022 graduation without any jobs offered
A 22 year old college graduate—at an elite university no less—without a serious internship last summer and still looking for a job in June is really weird. Red flags galore. It teases out your kid is irresponsible, workshy and immature. Would YOU want to hire someone like that?
Of course in-denial parents with their own underachieving man child kids are like a moth to a flame in a thread like this, spreading disinformation that it’s no big deal.
Of course in-denial parents with their own underachieving man child kids are like a moth to a flame in a thread like this, spreading disinformation that it’s no big deal.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 14:29
Subject: 2022 graduation without any jobs offered
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's been what two weeks?
It's very, VERY sketchy to not have a job locked up by graduation. Most college seniors had full-time offers in their pocket by July or August from their summer internship last year (2021). Worst-case you're doing on campus recruiting and have something locked up by Sept.-Oct. December at the very latest. OP's kid has issues.
As others have said this poster is out of her mind. Anyone adult who uses the word “sketchy” in such a context should not be listened to. To OP: UVA has an excellent career counseling office. Your child should make contact now.
Career counselors weeks after graduating? Ma’am, if the kid didn’t call, zoom or visit that office one darn time in 4 years they aren’t going to now. They are who they are: lazy and unfocused. The only people defending OP’s kid are those with lazy kids of their own. OP and/or the generous financial aid office at UVA just wasted $120,000 educating this young man. And he’s a workshy child.
Are you a SAH parent who has never worked? You don’t seem to understand how college career offices work.
You also don’t seem to have a real grasp of how real people’s careers work.
I graduated with zero office job experience. I tended bar for a year, then got an MBA at a top ranked school. Graduated with a job and have worked in multiple fields/jobs. Not a linear path, but it’s been fun and very lucrative.
Your notion that all is lost if a kid doesn’t have a job at graduation is just silly.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 11:22
Subject: Re:2022 graduation without any jobs offered
I'd be really upset if my college grad hadn't been applying to and interviewing for jobs all of senior year. They should have been hustling for a post-graduation job all year (and also as a junior for internships that could turn into a job). If nothing had worked out in their intended field by now, I'd expect them to have a new plan to explore other options with a broader search.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 11:15
Subject: 2022 graduation without any jobs offered
]]Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's been what two weeks?
I think most kids have a job nailed down by now.
DD has been looking since Jan '22. Lot of interviews but no jobs offered so far.
What kind of internships has she had during her college career?
Not the previous poster, but: once again, class of 2022 students often were NOT able to secure internships! sophomore summer was 2020 so even if they were lucky to have an internship it was 99% likely canceled. And despite what some think, 2021 internships were NOT back to normal levels. Many were given to the cancelled ones from 2020, companies hired less interns since many were still working remotely. So there is a significantly higher percentage of 2022 graduates who do not have internship experience---they are NOT Lazy.
Covid messed with the key years of college for securing internships. My DC and their friends spent their junior year managing covid and remotely interviewing for everything available. But only a small percentage (and in certain majors) managed to land internships. Half have jobs now, 25 % are going to grad school and the other 25% are still searching for a job. These are kids with Business/engineering/accounting/math/cs/health sciences degrees and 3.0+ gpas from a top 80 university with an amazing career center. They will all eventually find jobs, but they were definately impacted by Covid and the last 2.5 years.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 11:07
Subject: 2022 graduation without any jobs offered
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's been what two weeks?
It's very, VERY sketchy to not have a job locked up by graduation. Most college seniors had full-time offers in their pocket by July or August from their summer internship last year (2021). Worst-case you're doing on campus recruiting and have something locked up by Sept.-Oct. December at the very latest. OP's kid has issues.
This is absolute BS.
NP
What part specifically is BS? Everyone is supposed to have a serious internship last summer as a rising senior. The last week or two at that internship you're supposed to receive a full-time offer to return upon graduation. You can pocket that offer. If you want, you can then use that offer to interview for other positions if you're seeking higher pay, diff location, or whatever during on campus recruiting cycle in the fall. The kids not going into full time careers receive their law school, med school, etc. offers by December. We are in May, nearly June, and OP's 22 YEAR OLD ADULT HAS NOTHING.
This is true for certain fields, but not the case in many.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 11:01
Subject: 2022 graduation without any jobs offered
"offered" is an odd, passive, word choice. The student will need some hustle. And may have it, just Op not be aware of it.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 10:21
Subject: 2022 graduation without any jobs offered
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's been what two weeks?
I think most kids have a job nailed down by now.
DD has been looking since Jan '22. Lot of interviews but no jobs offered so far.
What kind of internships has she had during her college career?
Anonymous
05/18/2022 10:15
Subject: 2022 graduation without any jobs offered
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's been what two weeks?
It's very, VERY sketchy to not have a job locked up by graduation. Most college seniors had full-time offers in their pocket by July or August from their summer internship last year (2021). Worst-case you're doing on campus recruiting and have something locked up by Sept.-Oct. December at the very latest. OP's kid has issues.
This is absolute BS.
NP
What part specifically is BS? Everyone is supposed to have a serious internship last summer as a rising senior. The last week or two at that internship you're supposed to receive a full-time offer to return upon graduation. You can pocket that offer. If you want, you can then use that offer to interview for other positions if you're seeking higher pay, diff location, or whatever during on campus recruiting cycle in the fall. The kids not going into full time careers receive their law school, med school, etc. offers by December. We are in May, nearly June, and OP's 22 YEAR OLD ADULT HAS NOTHING.
Your range of experience and knowledge is extremely limited, that much is clear.
+1000
Anonymous
05/18/2022 10:14
Subject: 2022 graduation without any jobs offered
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's been what two weeks?
It's very, VERY sketchy to not have a job locked up by graduation. Most college seniors had full-time offers in their pocket by July or August from their summer internship last year (2021). Worst-case you're doing on campus recruiting and have something locked up by Sept.-Oct. December at the very latest. OP's kid has issues.
Not true. Many kids could not find internships last summer. Due to covid there were less than normal, and many companies automatically offered them to the candidates they had selected for 2020 internships but then didn't get to do them due to covid. So there were not many new slots. And obviously, many kids had their internships cancelled summer 2020. So this years seniors did have a rough time getting internships.
Signed A parent of a 2022 grad who changed majors at end of freshman year to a completely different field, completed the new major in 3 years graduating on time, but wasn't eligible for internships for summer 2020 since was essentially "a freshman" then, and made every effort to get on summer 2021 but it was challenging. However my kid had a plan, continued to work the job they had worked since HS and worked it summer and every break they were home. Kid landed a job finally in March, but had a plan in case they didn't. They were going to become a manager at the job they'd worked for 5 years during HS and during breaks in college, while they continued to search for a job in their field.
However, most college graduates should have a plan for what to do if they don't have a job. What additional courses they might want to take, do they join americorps/peacecorp, do they go for a graduate degree? More importantly they need to regroup and determine what their goals are and find a path to achieve that
Bull crap. Nobody was impacted last summer. Kids were making out like bandits for basically fake internships over zoom.
Well if you were not looking for "fake internships over zoom" many students were impacted. Perhaps not any you knew, but I knew many.
Anonymous
05/18/2022 10:04
Subject: 2022 graduation without any jobs offered
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's been what two weeks?
It's very, VERY sketchy to not have a job locked up by graduation. Most college seniors had full-time offers in their pocket by July or August from their summer internship last year (2021). Worst-case you're doing on campus recruiting and have something locked up by Sept.-Oct. December at the very latest. OP's kid has issues.
This is absolute BS.
NP
What part specifically is BS? Everyone is supposed to have a serious internship last summer as a rising senior. The last week or two at that internship you're supposed to receive a full-time offer to return upon graduation. You can pocket that offer. If you want, you can then use that offer to interview for other positions if you're seeking higher pay, diff location, or whatever during on campus recruiting cycle in the fall. The kids not going into full time careers receive their law school, med school, etc. offers by December. We are in May, nearly June, and OP's 22 YEAR OLD ADULT HAS NOTHING.
Your range of experience and knowledge is extremely limited, that much is clear.
+1. And graduation is this Saturday. OP’s child should go to the xlnt UVA career center -this is what they do. Careercenter@uva.edu. —-Dad of UVA PPL major now at Oxford .
Anonymous
05/18/2022 09:38
Subject: 2022 graduation without any jobs offered
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's been what two weeks?
It's very, VERY sketchy to not have a job locked up by graduation. Most college seniors had full-time offers in their pocket by July or August from their summer internship last year (2021). Worst-case you're doing on campus recruiting and have something locked up by Sept.-Oct. December at the very latest. OP's kid has issues.
This is absolute BS.
NP
What part specifically is BS? Everyone is supposed to have a serious internship last summer as a rising senior. The last week or two at that internship you're supposed to receive a full-time offer to return upon graduation. You can pocket that offer. If you want, you can then use that offer to interview for other positions if you're seeking higher pay, diff location, or whatever during on campus recruiting cycle in the fall. The kids not going into full time careers receive their law school, med school, etc. offers by December. We are in May, nearly June, and OP's 22 YEAR OLD ADULT HAS NOTHING.
Your range of experience and knowledge is extremely limited, that much is clear.