Anonymous
05/22/2022 11:03
Subject: Abortion and religion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a practicing Catholic; I oppose abortion in most cases and I will not apologize for this.
You oppose women having the ability to make the best decisions for themselves and their families?
Why do you think it’s ok for you to force your religious beliefs on others?
I am not interested in forcing you to be Catholic or Christian.
Catholic teaching informs my world view which in turn informs the way I understand the abortion debate.
I understand you seeing this as forcing my religion on you. From my perspective far from it. Views on abortion very much hinge on your view of when life begins. A pro choice friend last week told me that a fetus is just a mass of cells. I asked them: really, is a fetus no different on essential quality from say, a mass on your leg? Neither of us was going to convince the other.
I don’t see anti abortion legislation as being directed intentionally at women, but rather protecting the life of the child. So, again, I don’t find your argument persuasive insofar as I don’t understand this issue to be about controlling or restricting women. I do appreciate your view.
From my vantage point, the whole issue turns on when life begins and when life becomes protectible by the state. I appreciate that this framing doesn’t make it easier to agree.
You - quite literally - do not believe in the Constitution or the 1st Amendment if you believe the government should implement your religion’s policy choices on the whole of the country.
If you’ve ever described yourself as “patriot” please stop. You’re not one. Far from it, actually.
I was able to articulate and share my views without attacking you personally. Maybe you can try this, too.
It’s 11:00. Shouldn’t you be at Mass, oh holy one?
Anonymous
05/22/2022 11:02
Subject: Abortion and religion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a practicing Catholic; I oppose abortion in most cases and I will not apologize for this.
I'm not and I don't. But you should never have to apologize for making political decisions consistent with your morals and understanding of the world. You have a spine, that's a good thing.
You are free to practice your religion all you want. But you can’t FORCE it on others.
When you abort a child you are imposing quite a bit. Just saying.
I’m not forcing anyone to get an abortion. Having a choice for one’s own body is not imposing on anyone else.
And what of the child’s body? Really it all hinges on what we understand the child (fetus) to be.
Anonymous
05/22/2022 11:01
Subject: Abortion and religion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a practicing Catholic; I oppose abortion in most cases and I will not apologize for this.
You oppose women having the ability to make the best decisions for themselves and their families?
Why do you think it’s ok for you to force your religious beliefs on others?
I am not interested in forcing you to be Catholic or Christian.
Catholic teaching informs my world view which in turn informs the way I understand the abortion debate.
I understand you seeing this as forcing my religion on you. From my perspective far from it. Views on abortion very much hinge on your view of when life begins. A pro choice friend last week told me that a fetus is just a mass of cells. I asked them: really, is a fetus no different on essential quality from say, a mass on your leg? Neither of us was going to convince the other.
I don’t see anti abortion legislation as being directed intentionally at women, but rather protecting the life of the child. So, again, I don’t find your argument persuasive insofar as I don’t understand this issue to be about controlling or restricting women. I do appreciate your view.
From my vantage point, the whole issue turns on when life begins and when life becomes protectible by the state. I appreciate that this framing doesn’t make it easier to agree.
You are trying to FORCE your religious beliefs on others. You are infringing on others’ religious beliefs.
Where do women fit into your religious beliefs? Why are they less valuable than the fetus? What did the men who wrote your religious beliefs think about a woman’s worth?
I already rejected the argument that I am trying to force my religious beliefs on you.
The whole challenge turns on balancing the human dignity of the mother and the human dignity of the child.
Recognizing rights of the child does not in my view demean the mother.
Anonymous
05/22/2022 10:59
Subject: Abortion and religion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a practicing Catholic; I oppose abortion in most cases and I will not apologize for this.
You oppose women having the ability to make the best decisions for themselves and their families?
Why do you think it’s ok for you to force your religious beliefs on others?
I am not interested in forcing you to be Catholic or Christian.
Catholic teaching informs my world view which in turn informs the way I understand the abortion debate.
I understand you seeing this as forcing my religion on you. From my perspective far from it. Views on abortion very much hinge on your view of when life begins. A pro choice friend last week told me that a fetus is just a mass of cells. I asked them: really, is a fetus no different on essential quality from say, a mass on your leg? Neither of us was going to convince the other.
I don’t see anti abortion legislation as being directed intentionally at women, but rather protecting the life of the child. So, again, I don’t find your argument persuasive insofar as I don’t understand this issue to be about controlling or restricting women. I do appreciate your view.
From my vantage point, the whole issue turns on when life begins and when life becomes protectible by the state. I appreciate that this framing doesn’t make it easier to agree.
You - quite literally - do not believe in the Constitution or the 1st Amendment if you believe the government should implement your religion’s policy choices on the whole of the country.
If you’ve ever described yourself as “patriot” please stop. You’re not one. Far from it, actually.
PP seems to prioritize her religious beliefs over everything else.
Including the liberty of others.
Anonymous
05/22/2022 10:58
Subject: Abortion and religion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a practicing Catholic; I oppose abortion in most cases and I will not apologize for this.
I'm not and I don't. But you should never have to apologize for making political decisions consistent with your morals and understanding of the world. You have a spine, that's a good thing.
You are free to practice your religion all you want. But you can’t FORCE it on others.
When you abort a child you are imposing quite a bit. Just saying.
I’m not forcing anyone to get an abortion. Having a choice for one’s own body is not imposing on anyone else.
Anonymous
05/22/2022 10:56
Subject: Abortion and religion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a practicing Catholic; I oppose abortion in most cases and I will not apologize for this.
You oppose women having the ability to make the best decisions for themselves and their families?
Why do you think it’s ok for you to force your religious beliefs on others?
I am not interested in forcing you to be Catholic or Christian.
Catholic teaching informs my world view which in turn informs the way I understand the abortion debate.
I understand you seeing this as forcing my religion on you. From my perspective far from it. Views on abortion very much hinge on your view of when life begins. A pro choice friend last week told me that a fetus is just a mass of cells. I asked them: really, is a fetus no different on essential quality from say, a mass on your leg? Neither of us was going to convince the other.
I don’t see anti abortion legislation as being directed intentionally at women, but rather protecting the life of the child. So, again, I don’t find your argument persuasive insofar as I don’t understand this issue to be about controlling or restricting women. I do appreciate your view.
From my vantage point, the whole issue turns on when life begins and when life becomes protectible by the state. I appreciate that this framing doesn’t make it easier to agree.
You are trying to FORCE your religious beliefs on others. You are infringing on others’ religious beliefs.
Where do women fit into your religious beliefs? Why are they less valuable than the fetus? What did the men who wrote your religious beliefs think about a woman’s worth?
Anonymous
05/22/2022 10:53
Subject: Abortion and religion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a practicing Catholic; I oppose abortion in most cases and I will not apologize for this.
You oppose women having the ability to make the best decisions for themselves and their families?
Why do you think it’s ok for you to force your religious beliefs on others?
I am not interested in forcing you to be Catholic or Christian.
Catholic teaching informs my world view which in turn informs the way I understand the abortion debate.
I understand you seeing this as forcing my religion on you. From my perspective far from it. Views on abortion very much hinge on your view of when life begins. A pro choice friend last week told me that a fetus is just a mass of cells. I asked them: really, is a fetus no different on essential quality from say, a mass on your leg? Neither of us was going to convince the other.
I don’t see anti abortion legislation as being directed intentionally at women, but rather protecting the life of the child. So, again, I don’t find your argument persuasive insofar as I don’t understand this issue to be about controlling or restricting women. I do appreciate your view.
From my vantage point, the whole issue turns on when life begins and when life becomes protectible by the state. I appreciate that this framing doesn’t make it easier to agree.
You - quite literally - do not believe in the Constitution or the 1st Amendment if you believe the government should implement your religion’s policy choices on the whole of the country.
If you’ve ever described yourself as “patriot” please stop. You’re not one. Far from it, actually.
I was able to articulate and share my views without attacking you personally. Maybe you can try this, too.
Anonymous
05/22/2022 10:51
Subject: Abortion and religion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a practicing Catholic; I oppose abortion in most cases and I will not apologize for this.
You oppose women having the ability to make the best decisions for themselves and their families?
Why do you think it’s ok for you to force your religious beliefs on others?
I am not interested in forcing you to be Catholic or Christian.
Catholic teaching informs my world view which in turn informs the way I understand the abortion debate.
I understand you seeing this as forcing my religion on you. From my perspective far from it. Views on abortion very much hinge on your view of when life begins. A pro choice friend last week told me that a fetus is just a mass of cells. I asked them: really, is a fetus no different on essential quality from say, a mass on your leg? Neither of us was going to convince the other.
I don’t see anti abortion legislation as being directed intentionally at women, but rather protecting the life of the child. So, again, I don’t find your argument persuasive insofar as I don’t understand this issue to be about controlling or restricting women. I do appreciate your view.
From my vantage point, the whole issue turns on when life begins and when life becomes protectible by the state. I appreciate that this framing doesn’t make it easier to agree.
You - quite literally - do not believe in the Constitution or the 1st Amendment if you believe the government should implement your religion’s policy choices on the whole of the country.
If you’ve ever described yourself as “patriot” please stop. You’re not one. Far from it, actually.
Anonymous
05/22/2022 10:51
Subject: Abortion and religion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a practicing Catholic; I oppose abortion in most cases and I will not apologize for this.
I'm not and I don't. But you should never have to apologize for making political decisions consistent with your morals and understanding of the world. You have a spine, that's a good thing.
You are free to practice your religion all you want. But you can’t FORCE it on others.
When you abort a child you are imposing quite a bit. Just saying.
Anonymous
05/22/2022 10:48
Subject: Abortion and religion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a practicing Catholic; I oppose abortion in most cases and I will not apologize for this.
I'm not and I don't. But you should never have to apologize for making political decisions consistent with your morals and understanding of the world. You have a spine, that's a good thing.
You are free to practice your religion all you want. But you can’t FORCE it on others.
Anonymous
05/22/2022 10:46
Subject: Abortion and religion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a practicing Catholic; I oppose abortion in most cases and I will not apologize for this.
You oppose women having the ability to make the best decisions for themselves and their families?
Why do you think it’s ok for you to force your religious beliefs on others?
I am not interested in forcing you to be Catholic or Christian.
Catholic teaching informs my world view which in turn informs the way I understand the abortion debate.
I understand you seeing this as forcing my religion on you. From my perspective far from it. Views on abortion very much hinge on your view of when life begins. A pro choice friend last week told me that a fetus is just a mass of cells. I asked them: really, is a fetus no different on essential quality from say, a mass on your leg? Neither of us was going to convince the other.
I don’t see anti abortion legislation as being directed intentionally at women, but rather protecting the life of the child. So, again, I don’t find your argument persuasive insofar as I don’t understand this issue to be about controlling or restricting women. I do appreciate your view.
From my vantage point, the whole issue turns on when life begins and when life becomes protectible by the state. I appreciate that this framing doesn’t make it easier to agree.
Anonymous
05/22/2022 10:45
Subject: Abortion and religion
Anonymous wrote:I am a practicing Catholic; I oppose abortion in most cases and I will not apologize for this.
I’m an atheist. I’m against religion imposing itself in our political decisions in all cases and I will not apologize for this.
Anonymous
05/22/2022 10:43
Subject: Abortion and religion
Anonymous wrote:I have no idea who that preacher is. He is not a spokesperson for christians in America
With the exception of a few outliers that you know about, churches are apolitical
LOL
Anonymous
05/22/2022 09:16
Subject: Abortion and religion
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a practicing Catholic; I oppose abortion in most cases and I will not apologize for this.
I'm not and I don't. But you should never have to apologize for making political decisions consistent with your morals and understanding of the world. You have a spine, that's a good thing.
+100
Anonymous
05/22/2022 09:10
Subject: Abortion and religion
Anonymous wrote:I am a practicing Catholic; I oppose abortion in most cases and I will not apologize for this.
I'm not and I don't. But you should never have to apologize for making political decisions consistent with your morals and understanding of the world. You have a spine, that's a good thing.