I wouldn’t rule out oos schools, either, as there are some that might give your child a scholarship to make it comparable or even less expensive than an in state option

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Anonymous wrote:I went to my state’s best school in a state with a huge public system. There wasn’t a huge population of out of state kids, but those who were from elsewhere made my experience richer. A, they paid more, which kept my tuition down. B, they presented a level of geographic diversity and exposure to other areas of the country that I was totally unfamiliar with. C, they were ridiculously more qualified than many of the rest of us, which really pushed me to up my game. My college best friend was from out of state and had been accepted at EVERY single Ivy. Chose my public because it was a very different experience, geographically/socioeconomically/diversity wise, and that is what they wanted.

Whether those from elsewhere should be there or not is a separate issue. The question is whether they should be there at the expense of deserving in state kids. I gave the example of California where the top kids are guaranteed a spot at a UC to the point that the UC system has expanded to accommodate them as the population of the state has grown. Others are then added. Most states don’t do that

There’s more than UVA in Virginia, so I’m not sure why people are so pissed off. There’s plenty of other public colleges and universities to choose from in Virginia. There are 39 public colleges and universities in Virginia - popular schools like Virginia Tech, George Mason University and James Madison University.

Because although UVA rejected my kid, Michigan and USC accepted them. Why would I send them to GMU etc?

Any student capable of being admitted to Michigan and USC (which is a PRIVATE school, assuming you're talking about the one in California) is capable of getting an excellent education at Virginia Tech, William and Mary or James Madison. Your focus is way too narrow.

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I don't care where others send their kids, but for us personally - no way would we pay OOS costs if VT, JMU, etc. accepted our kids. Virginians are so lucky to have these excellent schools available to them.

Anonymous wrote:I am from Georgia, and we wondered if the OOS people at the non flagship schools weren't smart enough to be accepted in their own state.

Or maybe... just maybe... they chose those schools because they liked them more than what was offered in their own states? Imagine that.

Seems like it's all a wash in the end. Our state schools take out of state kids; other state schools take kids from our state. Some kids who prefer going away get to see other parts of the country. In-state kids get to know classmates from across the country, so it's not as insular. Out of state kids pay higher tuition, helping the school maintain lower tuition for in-state kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to my state’s best school in a state with a huge public system. There wasn’t a huge population of out of state kids, but those who were from elsewhere made my experience richer. A, they paid more, which kept my tuition down. B, they presented a level of geographic diversity and exposure to other areas of the country that I was totally unfamiliar with. C, they were ridiculously more qualified than many of the rest of us, which really pushed me to up my game. My college best friend was from out of state and had been accepted at EVERY single Ivy. Chose my public because it was a very different experience, geographically/socioeconomically/diversity wise, and that is what they wanted.

Whether those from elsewhere should be there or not is a separate issue. The question is whether they should be there at the expense of deserving in state kids. I gave the example of California where the top kids are guaranteed a spot at a UC to the point that the UC system has expanded to accommodate them as the population of the state has grown. Others are then added. Most states don’t do that

There’s more than UVA in Virginia, so I’m not sure why people are so pissed off. There’s plenty of other public colleges and universities to choose from in Virginia. There are 39 public colleges and universities in Virginia - popular schools like Virginia Tech, George Mason University and James Madison University.

Because although UVA rejected my kid, Michigan and USC accepted them. Why would I send them to GMU etc?

Don’t if you don’t want to, but know you are choosing out of state and OOS or private tuition. Your kid could go somewhere in state. Those schools are apparently not good enough and Jr. is apparently not special enough for UVA. Your choice.

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Ok. Sounds good.

Anonymous wrote:Most people pay no taxes anyhow

Most people pay taxes.

$30k per year - sorry, realized that wasn’t clear

To add - we have looked very hard for schools that will come in around the same price tag as the instate schools. Anything over $30k all in is not under serious consideration

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Anonymous wrote:I am from Georgia, and we wondered if the OOS people at the non flagship schools weren't smart enough to be accepted in their own state.

would there be something wrong with it if they weren't?

Right? What’s it to you? To be honest, the “top” schools in VA don’t even have the program my daughter wants (neither do UMW, Longwood or CNU). The “best” school that has it is JMU, and kids with 3.8s uw from NoVA are being rejected. Mason and VCU are nationally ranked for her interest area, but have a different type of degree than she is looking for. She is probably going to apply to ODU and Radford.

She has several non-flagship schools in PA, NC, NJ, RI and MA on a list of possible schools. The one in PA is also nationally ranked, so it is top of her list.

While searching, tuition programs/scholarships for oos students were taken into account. Two that are currently still on the list but likely will come off when the scotus decision comes down and trigger bans are activated are Wis-Stevens Point and Akron.

Everyone has their reasons. How is it hurting you if my kid goes to a non-flagship school somewhere else?

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Anonymous wrote:I went to my state’s best school in a state with a huge public system. There wasn’t a huge population of out of state kids, but those who were from elsewhere made my experience richer. A, they paid more, which kept my tuition down. B, they presented a level of geographic diversity and exposure to other areas of the country that I was totally unfamiliar with. C, they were ridiculously more qualified than many of the rest of us, which really pushed me to up my game. My college best friend was from out of state and had been accepted at EVERY single Ivy. Chose my public because it was a very different experience, geographically/socioeconomically/diversity wise, and that is what they wanted.

Whether those from elsewhere should be there or not is a separate issue. The question is whether they should be there at the expense of deserving in state kids. I gave the example of California where the top kids are guaranteed a spot at a UC to the point that the UC system has expanded to accommodate them as the population of the state has grown. Others are then added. Most states don’t do that

There’s more than UVA in Virginia, so I’m not sure why people are so pissed off. There’s plenty of other public colleges and universities to choose from in Virginia. There are 39 public colleges and universities in Virginia - popular schools like Virginia Tech, George Mason University and James Madison University.

Because although UVA rejected my kid, Michigan and USC accepted them. Why would I send them to GMU etc?

Don’t if you don’t want to, but know you are choosing out of state and OOS or private tuition. Your kid could go somewhere in state. Those schools are apparently not good enough and Jr. is apparently not special enough for UVA. Your choice.

UMASS Amherst keeps tuition low via out of state students. In fact the prior two years instate got zero tuition raise but out of state kept getting raises. Even when in state gets a tuition raise out of state is doubled.

In state parents would not like it if they banned out of state tuition would shoot up like $10,000 a year

Most people pay no taxes anyhow