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Anonymous wrote:Refs have been absolutely brutal this year in NGLL. Yesterday alone, I saw a defender cross check get called a charge on offense, a non call on a false start where girl didn’t go 4 meters (led to TO and goal) and a phantom offsides call in a two goal game.

Did you ever stop to think the quality of officiating may be directly related to not having enough refs. Who wants to subject themselves to verbal attacks from armchair parents and obnoxious coaches for an entire weekend. Let the refs call the games, enjoy the game, and maybe more individuals will be willing to ref games. And the quality of the officiating will improve. It starts with parents and coaches. Set the example.

Anonymous wrote:Refs have been absolutely brutal this year in NGLL. Yesterday alone, I saw a defender cross check get called a charge on offense, a non call on a false start where girl didn’t go 4 meters (led to TO and goal) and a phantom offsides call in a two goal game.

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Anonymous wrote:I agreed that adding 2-3 talented girls won't change the results against the top 4 MD teams. For my child's team, sure, they have 2-3 girls who are not as talented as the rest (although they are still very good). I am not sure I would change them: they are solid team players, and not every one can or needs to be a superstar. When her team loses games to the top teams, it's not because those 2-3 girls, who don't have the ball that much, made a few mistakes. Rather, it's because the superstars made even more mistakes: bad or forced passes, poor angle shots or slow shots, which are all turnovers. They are young, so even the talent makes mistakes, and those mistakes cost the team wins in close games against top teams. Every year, the talent makes fewer mistakes, so it should get a better by 8th grade. I would also say that the top 4 teams foul more, and although the refs get better at calling it every year, they still call about 70%, not 100% -- so every foul the other team does that does not get called gets them an advantage. Also, the MD teams are slightly more disciplined about not having as many poor shots. Not sure why. Maybe that's because they've been playing together for longer than our girls, and every year brings more experience and more discipline. Or maybe their coaches are better about reminding the girls that every bad shot is a turnover, and usually a goal for the other team. But I am not sure I want our coaches to harp too much -- it should still be fun at this age and not so serious. They are still young and their improvement over the years has been unbelievable.

If you are complaining about how physical MD teams are, wait till you play the top teams from NY, NJ, or Florida

NGLL refs are terrible and call most games like its a 2031 REC game. It is hurting the development of the top club, especially at middle school level. Way too many whistles for slight contact.

Agree with the PP. But this is what you get when overly vocal parents bark at refs to call soft fouls all game long. Word of advice to parents, let the refs ref, don't scream for every ticky tack foul. You are embarrassing yourself, hurting the game and most importantly the players development by doing this.

This has resulted in non stop flopping as well. It's not good.

You are right, our team alike has started to flop in the 8M and it’s working, it’s a shame. Summer tournaments are going to be a reality check for many of these MD teams.

If parents are going to complain about every soft contact, which is by far the biggest issue, then you can’t really blame defenders for getting their revenge with good acting lessons. Neither case is good for the game and hurts the girls progress, but from a game IQ perspective hats off to the defense. Bottom line is parents and coaches need to stop complaining about soft fouls. Watch the NCAA tourney this week and ask yourself if the refs are calling soft fouls in those games. It’s a physical game.

Might want to say that a little louder for the pride parents. I have never heard more complaints about contact than when we played then. I knew VA teams weren't as physical, but the pride parents need to wrap their kids in bubble wrap.

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Anonymous wrote:I agreed that adding 2-3 talented girls won't change the results against the top 4 MD teams. For my child's team, sure, they have 2-3 girls who are not as talented as the rest (although they are still very good). I am not sure I would change them: they are solid team players, and not every one can or needs to be a superstar. When her team loses games to the top teams, it's not because those 2-3 girls, who don't have the ball that much, made a few mistakes. Rather, it's because the superstars made even more mistakes: bad or forced passes, poor angle shots or slow shots, which are all turnovers. They are young, so even the talent makes mistakes, and those mistakes cost the team wins in close games against top teams. Every year, the talent makes fewer mistakes, so it should get a better by 8th grade. I would also say that the top 4 teams foul more, and although the refs get better at calling it every year, they still call about 70%, not 100% -- so every foul the other team does that does not get called gets them an advantage. Also, the MD teams are slightly more disciplined about not having as many poor shots. Not sure why. Maybe that's because they've been playing together for longer than our girls, and every year brings more experience and more discipline. Or maybe their coaches are better about reminding the girls that every bad shot is a turnover, and usually a goal for the other team. But I am not sure I want our coaches to harp too much -- it should still be fun at this age and not so serious. They are still young and their improvement over the years has been unbelievable.

If you are complaining about how physical MD teams are, wait till you play the top teams from NY, NJ, or Florida

NGLL refs are terrible and call most games like its a 2031 REC game. It is hurting the development of the top club, especially at middle school level. Way too many whistles for slight contact.

Agree with the PP. But this is what you get when overly vocal parents bark at refs to call soft fouls all game long. Word of advice to parents, let the refs ref, don't scream for every ticky tack foul. You are embarrassing yourself, hurting the game and most importantly the players development by doing this.

This has resulted in non stop flopping as well. It's not good.

You are right, our team alike has started to flop in the 8M and it’s working, it’s a shame. Summer tournaments are going to be a reality check for many of these MD teams.

If parents are going to complain about every soft contact, which is by far the biggest issue, then you can’t really blame defenders for getting their revenge with good acting lessons. Neither case is good for the game and hurts the girls progress, but from a game IQ perspective hats off to the defense. Bottom line is parents and coaches need to stop complaining about soft fouls. Watch the NCAA tourney this week and ask yourself if the refs are calling soft fouls in those games. It’s a physical game.

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Anonymous wrote:I agreed that adding 2-3 talented girls won't change the results against the top 4 MD teams. For my child's team, sure, they have 2-3 girls who are not as talented as the rest (although they are still very good). I am not sure I would change them: they are solid team players, and not every one can or needs to be a superstar. When her team loses games to the top teams, it's not because those 2-3 girls, who don't have the ball that much, made a few mistakes. Rather, it's because the superstars made even more mistakes: bad or forced passes, poor angle shots or slow shots, which are all turnovers. They are young, so even the talent makes mistakes, and those mistakes cost the team wins in close games against top teams. Every year, the talent makes fewer mistakes, so it should get a better by 8th grade. I would also say that the top 4 teams foul more, and although the refs get better at calling it every year, they still call about 70%, not 100% -- so every foul the other team does that does not get called gets them an advantage. Also, the MD teams are slightly more disciplined about not having as many poor shots. Not sure why. Maybe that's because they've been playing together for longer than our girls, and every year brings more experience and more discipline. Or maybe their coaches are better about reminding the girls that every bad shot is a turnover, and usually a goal for the other team. But I am not sure I want our coaches to harp too much -- it should still be fun at this age and not so serious. They are still young and their improvement over the years has been unbelievable.

If you are complaining about how physical MD teams are, wait till you play the top teams from NY, NJ, or Florida

NGLL refs are terrible and call most games like its a 2031 REC game. It is hurting the development of the top club, especially at middle school level. Way too many whistles for slight contact.

Agree with the PP. But this is what you get when overly vocal parents bark at refs to call soft fouls all game long. Word of advice to parents, let the refs ref, don't scream for every ticky tack foul. You are embarrassing yourself, hurting the game and most importantly the players development by doing this.

This has resulted in non stop flopping as well. It's not good.

You are right, our team alike has started to flop in the 8M and it’s working, it’s a shame. Summer tournaments are going to be a reality check for many of these MD teams.

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Anonymous wrote:I agreed that adding 2-3 talented girls won't change the results against the top 4 MD teams. For my child's team, sure, they have 2-3 girls who are not as talented as the rest (although they are still very good). I am not sure I would change them: they are solid team players, and not every one can or needs to be a superstar. When her team loses games to the top teams, it's not because those 2-3 girls, who don't have the ball that much, made a few mistakes. Rather, it's because the superstars made even more mistakes: bad or forced passes, poor angle shots or slow shots, which are all turnovers. They are young, so even the talent makes mistakes, and those mistakes cost the team wins in close games against top teams. Every year, the talent makes fewer mistakes, so it should get a better by 8th grade. I would also say that the top 4 teams foul more, and although the refs get better at calling it every year, they still call about 70%, not 100% -- so every foul the other team does that does not get called gets them an advantage. Also, the MD teams are slightly more disciplined about not having as many poor shots. Not sure why. Maybe that's because they've been playing together for longer than our girls, and every year brings more experience and more discipline. Or maybe their coaches are better about reminding the girls that every bad shot is a turnover, and usually a goal for the other team. But I am not sure I want our coaches to harp too much -- it should still be fun at this age and not so serious. They are still young and their improvement over the years has been unbelievable.

If you are complaining about how physical MD teams are, wait till you play the top teams from NY, NJ, or Florida

NGLL refs are terrible and call most games like its a 2031 REC game. It is hurting the development of the top club, especially at middle school level. Way too many whistles for slight contact.

Agree with the PP. But this is what you get when overly vocal parents bark at refs to call soft fouls all game long. Word of advice to parents, let the refs ref, don't scream for every ticky tack foul. You are embarrassing yourself, hurting the game and most importantly the players development by doing this.

This has resulted in non stop flopping as well. It's not good.

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Anonymous wrote:I agreed that adding 2-3 talented girls won't change the results against the top 4 MD teams. For my child's team, sure, they have 2-3 girls who are not as talented as the rest (although they are still very good). I am not sure I would change them: they are solid team players, and not every one can or needs to be a superstar. When her team loses games to the top teams, it's not because those 2-3 girls, who don't have the ball that much, made a few mistakes. Rather, it's because the superstars made even more mistakes: bad or forced passes, poor angle shots or slow shots, which are all turnovers. They are young, so even the talent makes mistakes, and those mistakes cost the team wins in close games against top teams. Every year, the talent makes fewer mistakes, so it should get a better by 8th grade. I would also say that the top 4 teams foul more, and although the refs get better at calling it every year, they still call about 70%, not 100% -- so every foul the other team does that does not get called gets them an advantage. Also, the MD teams are slightly more disciplined about not having as many poor shots. Not sure why. Maybe that's because they've been playing together for longer than our girls, and every year brings more experience and more discipline. Or maybe their coaches are better about reminding the girls that every bad shot is a turnover, and usually a goal for the other team. But I am not sure I want our coaches to harp too much -- it should still be fun at this age and not so serious. They are still young and their improvement over the years has been unbelievable.

If you are complaining about how physical MD teams are, wait till you play the top teams from NY, NJ, or Florida

NGLL refs are terrible and call most games like its a 2031 REC game. It is hurting the development of the top club, especially at middle school level. Way too many whistles for slight contact.

Agree with the PP. But this is what you get when overly vocal parents bark at refs to call soft fouls all game long. Word of advice to parents, let the refs ref, don't scream for every ticky tack foul. You are embarrassing yourself, hurting the game and most importantly the players development by doing this.

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Anonymous wrote:I agreed that adding 2-3 talented girls won't change the results against the top 4 MD teams. For my child's team, sure, they have 2-3 girls who are not as talented as the rest (although they are still very good). I am not sure I would change them: they are solid team players, and not every one can or needs to be a superstar. When her team loses games to the top teams, it's not because those 2-3 girls, who don't have the ball that much, made a few mistakes. Rather, it's because the superstars made even more mistakes: bad or forced passes, poor angle shots or slow shots, which are all turnovers. They are young, so even the talent makes mistakes, and those mistakes cost the team wins in close games against top teams. Every year, the talent makes fewer mistakes, so it should get a better by 8th grade. I would also say that the top 4 teams foul more, and although the refs get better at calling it every year, they still call about 70%, not 100% -- so every foul the other team does that does not get called gets them an advantage. Also, the MD teams are slightly more disciplined about not having as many poor shots. Not sure why. Maybe that's because they've been playing together for longer than our girls, and every year brings more experience and more discipline. Or maybe their coaches are better about reminding the girls that every bad shot is a turnover, and usually a goal for the other team. But I am not sure I want our coaches to harp too much -- it should still be fun at this age and not so serious. They are still young and their improvement over the years has been unbelievable.

If you are complaining about how physical MD teams are, wait till you play the top teams from NY, NJ, or Florida

NGLL refs are terrible and call most games like its a 2031 REC game. It is hurting the development of the top club, especially at middle school level. Way too many whistles for slight contact.

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Anonymous wrote:Two evenly matched teams. But teams have the same issues.

Bad bench and bad coaching on both sides. . Something had to give.

Say it again for those in the back! Parents need to be honest with themselves and see the troubling situation/s with both teams. Is that ok with everyone to just limp along like this for the next 2 years?

There are 4 maybe 5 girls on Pride, NL and Stars combined that have the athleticism, body and raw talent that projects making a team like Capital Blue. And of those 4-5 none of them have great stick skills. You can’t tell much in 6th grade, the girls can change overnight. Everyone needs to calm down and let their daughters grow and develop in their sport. If you have the next Charolette North, I promise they’ll find her.

More importantly, the rosters change as well. 4-5 may be a bit low. But there will be lots of new girls on these teams, especially Pride. The summer is generally when rosters change the most. I would expect to see some movement and both of these teams get stronger.

Pride White has a few girls who definitely belong on the top team plus there are a couple very strong BLC girls who will likely look for another club. We see this happen every cycle. A teams pick up talent and B teams lose talent.

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Anonymous wrote:Two evenly matched teams. But teams have the same issues.

Bad bench and bad coaching on both sides. . Something had to give.

Say it again for those in the back! Parents need to be honest with themselves and see the troubling situation/s with both teams. Is that ok with everyone to just limp along like this for the next 2 years?

There are 4 maybe 5 girls on Pride, NL and Stars combined that have the athleticism, body and raw talent that projects making a team like Capital Blue. And of those 4-5 none of them have great stick skills. You can’t tell much in 6th grade, the girls can change overnight. Everyone needs to calm down and let their daughters grow and develop in their sport. If you have the next Charolette North, I promise they’ll find her.

More importantly, the rosters change as well. 4-5 may be a bit low. But there will be lots of new girls on these teams, especially Pride. The summer is generally when rosters change the most. I would expect to see some movement and both of these teams get stronger.

Pride White has a few girls who definitely belong on the top team plus there are a couple very strong BLC girls who will likely look for another club. We see this happen every cycle. A teams pick up talent and B teams lose talent.

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Anonymous wrote:Two evenly matched teams. But teams have the same issues.

Bad bench and bad coaching on both sides. . Something had to give.

Say it again for those in the back! Parents need to be honest with themselves and see the troubling situation/s with both teams. Is that ok with everyone to just limp along like this for the next 2 years?

There are 4 maybe 5 girls on Pride, NL and Stars combined that have the athleticism, body and raw talent that projects making a team like Capital Blue. And of those 4-5 none of them have great stick skills. You can’t tell much in 6th grade, the girls can change overnight. Everyone needs to calm down and let their daughters grow and develop in their sport. If you have the next Charolette North, I promise they’ll find her.