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Anonymous wrote:https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-law-school
Best law school feeder schools.

This is very interesting. The top feeder list is roughly reflecting usnwr rankings with two exceptions, Yeshiva and Brandeis. What is special about these two t50+?

Feeders are NOT a thing. Correlation is not causation.

What are you talking about, what causation. Obviously if you go to these feeder schools they prepare you well for top law schools, so you have a better chance of being accepted.

This is simply untrue. They're not getting accepted out of these schools because they're considered exceptional in "preparing" students for law school -- they're getting in because they have good grades and high LSAT scores, and students who score high on the LSAT are likely to have scored high on the SATs, which these schools place a premium on in admissions.

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Anonymous wrote:Get the highest undergraduate GPA possible. Major is totally irrelevant. In fact, a Theatre major would stand out in a sea of polisci majors applying to law school

Supplement the high GPA with some kind of relevant interest that connects to law school. Like volunteer for a drama program that works with incarcerated people or with at-risk kids. Then write a personal statement about how this experience has been the inspiration for a career using the law to address societal iniquity

Get a 170+ on the LSAT

+1 don't worry about "pre-law" and study what DC is excited about and does well in

Going to a higher ranked college is a huge leg up as well, just in terms of the numbers of who is admitted to the same selective grad programs at those colleges

- HYS undergrad and law school grad here

HLS Class of 2024 has graduates of 171 colleges, many of which are "no name" schools. Yes, higher ranked schools are leg up, but you're overstating how much of a leg up they are.

https://hls.harvard.edu/dept/jdadmissions/apply-to-harvard-law-school/undergraduate-colleges/

Also some notable colleges NOT on the list - Wellesley, Smith, Bryn Mawr, Mount Holyoke, Oberlin, Reed, Kenyon, Grinnell, Haverford, Claremont McKenna,

What about Jenny? And she was on Law Review! LOL

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenny-samuels-a93067127

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Anonymous wrote:Get the highest undergraduate GPA possible. Major is totally irrelevant. In fact, a Theatre major would stand out in a sea of polisci majors applying to law school

Supplement the high GPA with some kind of relevant interest that connects to law school. Like volunteer for a drama program that works with incarcerated people or with at-risk kids. Then write a personal statement about how this experience has been the inspiration for a career using the law to address societal iniquity

Get a 170+ on the LSAT

+1 don't worry about "pre-law" and study what DC is excited about and does well in

Going to a higher ranked college is a huge leg up as well, just in terms of the numbers of who is admitted to the same selective grad programs at those colleges

- HYS undergrad and law school grad here

HLS Class of 2024 has graduates of 171 colleges, many of which are "no name" schools. Yes, higher ranked schools are leg up, but you're overstating how much of a leg up they are.

https://hls.harvard.edu/dept/jdadmissions/apply-to-harvard-law-school/undergraduate-colleges/

The common thread is most of these students will have high LSAT scores and high GPAs. The school doesn't matter that much.

True. Most are the valedictorians. The median GPA for Harvard Law’s class of 2026 is 3.9. The median LSAT is 174

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Anonymous wrote:Get the highest undergraduate GPA possible. Major is totally irrelevant. In fact, a Theatre major would stand out in a sea of polisci majors applying to law school

Supplement the high GPA with some kind of relevant interest that connects to law school. Like volunteer for a drama program that works with incarcerated people or with at-risk kids. Then write a personal statement about how this experience has been the inspiration for a career using the law to address societal iniquity

Get a 170+ on the LSAT

+1 don't worry about "pre-law" and study what DC is excited about and does well in

Going to a higher ranked college is a huge leg up as well, just in terms of the numbers of who is admitted to the same selective grad programs at those colleges

- HYS undergrad and law school grad here

HLS Class of 2024 has graduates of 171 colleges, many of which are "no name" schools. Yes, higher ranked schools are leg up, but you're overstating how much of a leg up they are.

https://hls.harvard.edu/dept/jdadmissions/apply-to-harvard-law-school/undergraduate-colleges/

List of college names but no number of students accepted.
It seems to me it is weak evidence .

Again, correlation doesn’t equal causation. Very few kids from a “bad” undergrad college are applying to Harvard Law.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-law-school
Best law school feeder schools.

This is very interesting. The top feeder list is roughly reflecting usnwr rankings with two exceptions, Yeshiva and Brandeis. What is special about these two t50+?

Feeders are NOT a thing. Correlation is not causation.

What are you talking about, what causation. Obviously if you go to these feeder schools they prepare you well for top law schools, so you have a better chance of being accepted.

No. Going to a top college does not increase an individual's chances of admission to a top law school.

GPA + LSAT are what matter for T14 law school admission. There is no special "preparation" for law school. Yes, thinking logically and being able to write are helpful, but that preparation can be done anywhere, and are unrelated to law school admission. LSAT: take a prep course. College does not prepare you for the LSAT.

Time and time again, these threads about "feeders" for law schools devolve into lawyers saying that feeders are not a thing and nonlawyer parents and, more often, high school students claiming that feeders are a thing. Sorry, this is a pet peeve. There is no need to attend a "feeder" to increase one's chances of admission to a top law school.

Having watched my kid go through the Law School admissions process last year, this is exactly right. I don't know if it's "easier" to get into a top law school than a top undergrad institution but it's certainly more predictable. For undergrad, impeccable GPA and test scores are the table stakes to even merit consideration - and then you must have the something special to be admitted. For top law schools, if you have the GPA and LSAT in the 75th+ percentile, you're going to get into a top law school. Yale, and to a slightly lesser extent Stanford, are the only 2 that still need "something special" -- Yale Law School admitted only 16 students direct from undergrad last year so that something special seems to include relevant work experience.

Where law school admission could be "harder" than undergrad is if it's harder to make a 3.95+ GPA in college than in high school and/or if it's harder to score in the 99th percentile on the LSAT than the SAT/ACT. It's no surprise that if a person has the grades and test scores to get into a top undergrad, they are likely to continue to achieve similar scores in college - so if any school is a "feeder," it's only because it enrolls more of those kids in the first place. As a 1L, my kid has found more genuine socio-economic diversity in law school - with classmates from a wide range of undergrad institutions - than at their non-HYP Ivy undergrad school where everyone was seemingly from private schools or highly affluent suburban public schools.

Biglaw not retired 50s partner here. Go somewhere that you want to go factoring in financial situation and interests. Study what you want, what you like because you will need to do very well. If you have a great interest in sciences sure that is an option and IP law could be an option. Finance degree is not needed for securities law and does not really give you a leg up working or in hiring. It could be a good story if you love it but marginal. Get into the best law school you can and that you can afford. T14 gives a broader chance to get to biglaw if you want that or have loans. T25 should do just fine. After that there is a sliding scale. Top 10% of class may be ok or could be just top 5% or just top couple of students. It will vary by school. There is no net. A lot depends on the economy and remember the only grades that are getting looked at by biglaw are first year grades. For the people mentioned above, they have their summer offers before school starts in September. Almost all get hired after summer.

Your leg up for law school is a near perfect GPA - as close to 4.0 as you can get - coupled with a super high LSAT. Don’t kid yourself that a 3.65 from Bowdoin is going to trump a 3.9 from UMD. It won’t. The 3.9 and a high LSAT will qualify for $$ at many schools. The 3.6 will not. A top 14 will guarantee you a good job - if you want to make 215 K to start, you will be able to. . A 3.6 from Bowdoin and Georgetown or Washington and Lee Law will cost 600 K plus and if you are middle of the pack you could end up a contract attorney making $35 an hour. Many will never practice Law at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Get the highest undergraduate GPA possible. Major is totally irrelevant. In fact, a Theatre major would stand out in a sea of polisci majors applying to law school

Supplement the high GPA with some kind of relevant interest that connects to law school. Like volunteer for a drama program that works with incarcerated people or with at-risk kids. Then write a personal statement about how this experience has been the inspiration for a career using the law to address societal iniquity

Get a 170+ on the LSAT

+1 don't worry about "pre-law" and study what DC is excited about and does well in

Going to a higher ranked college is a huge leg up as well, just in terms of the numbers of who is admitted to the same selective grad programs at those colleges

- HYS undergrad and law school grad here

HLS Class of 2024 has graduates of 171 colleges, many of which are "no name" schools. Yes, higher ranked schools are leg up, but you're overstating how much of a leg up they are.

https://hls.harvard.edu/dept/jdadmissions/apply-to-harvard-law-school/undergraduate-colleges/

List of college names but no number of students accepted.
It seems to me it is weak evidence .