Anonymous wrote:Note comment from Spencer Kimball:

In the past the use of birth control methods including artificial contraception was explicitly condemned by LDS Church leaders. Beginning in July 1916, apostles were quoted stating that birth control was a "pernicious doctrine" and that "limiting the number of children in a family...is sinful".[103][104] The first time that any approval of a non-abstinence fertility control method was publicly expressed occurred in a 1942 Improvement Era article in which apostle John A. Widtsoe mentioned the rhythm method as an acceptable means of spacing children.[105] In his influential 1956 treatise Doctrines of Salvation, then apostle Joseph Fielding Smith called birth control a wickedness which leads to damnation and caused the downfall of nations. He further stated that an LDS couple that deliberately prevents themselves from having more children after their second or third child is guilty of iniquity which must be punished.[106][107] The 1958 edition of Bruce R. McConkie's popular book Mormon Doctrine stated that all those using condoms or other artificial contraception are "in rebellion against God and are guilty of gross wickedness."[108]: 12  The BYU Honor Code in 1968 stated that "the Church does not approve of any form of birth control."[109] In 1969 the first and only First Presidency statement on birth control was released; it reemphasized that it was "contrary to the teachings of the Church artificially to curtail or prevent the birth of children", though, for the first time there was a clarification that men should be considerate to "conserve" the "health and strength" of their wives when planning families since they carry the "greater responsibility" for bearing and rearing children.[110]

Other discussions of the topic include those by Ezra Taft Benson, who became a church president. He stated that those that advocate for birth control perpetuate types of government that cause famine,[111][112][113]: 540  that couples should not prevent births for selfish reasons,[113]: 543 [114][115] and that a sterilization operation could "jeapordiz[e] your exaltation."[113]: 541 [116][117] As recently as 2003 a church manual was published containing a quote from the late church president Spencer W. Kimball stating that the church does not "condone nor approve of" measures of contraception which greatly "limit the family".[118]

The church's insurance company Deseret Mutual Benefits Administrators which provides coverage for its employees does not cover any form of birth control and will only cover sterilization by vasectomy or tubal ligation for a couple if the woman has already had five children or is over forty.

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Anonymous wrote:Curious - are more LDS women still getting married young, but waiting several years to have kids so that they can get their careers established first? I know one LDS woman like this; she even showed off her implanted birth control in her arm.

Surprisingly, the LDS has no ban or moral issues with birth control as say, the Catholic Church does. But they are taught that having children is essential to God's plan and as such, they do tend to have children younger- but that might have to do with the fact they marry younger? Like if the average couple, both LDS and non-LDS waits 3 years after marriage to have kids...that means the average LDS couple would have kids at 26 since they, on average, get married at 23, whereas the average non-LDS couple gets married at 28 or whatever so they have their kid at 31. if that makes sense?

You are wrong. Go read the history of b.c. in the Mormon church in wiki.

You don't need to go to Wikipedia, just go straight to the source. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/gospel-topics/birth-control?lang=eng

"The decision of how many children to have and when to have them is a private matter for the husband and wife."
Sexual relations within marriage are not only for the purpose of procreation, but also a means of expressing love and strengthening emotional and spiritual ties between husband and wife.

Husband and wife are encouraged to pray and counsel together as they plan their families. Issues to consider include the physical and mental health of the mother and father and their capacity to provide the basic necessities of life for their children.

Decisions about birth control and the consequences of those decisions rest solely with each married couple.

That’s PR for the Gentiles. The rules are no sex before marriage and no b.c. after. It’s a brutal church for women. Hence the antidepressant statistics.

Anonymous wrote:Tara Westover (author of Educated) graduated from there and went on to get an MA and PhD from Cambridge, so I am assuming its a good school. I think she was/is Mormon.[/qu

The whole point of that book is that she overcame incredibly deprived and abusive circumstances. BYU is the halfway point between her childhood (no education whatsoever) and Cambridge. It is better than living on a scrap heap with mentally ill abusive adults.