In my day the rich at least used tanning pills.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul_Man_(film)

Anonymous wrote:Saying to a low income student that you understand her experience because you're "NYC low income" is stupid and cringe-inducing but it's not the same as being admitted to college as a low income student. I think people are conflating the two.

Not just posters; it appears the author of the article is conflating the two:

another girl told me that she was low-income because her dad makes $400,000 a year, and that’s “New York poor.”

So another girl was a clueless, tactless moron. That's not even remotely similar to lying about parent education and employment in the Common App.

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Anonymous wrote:Dovetails on Princeton claiming 70% of their freshman class are "non-white" minorities. Rich liars playing the system.

Really! Hate to predict their size of endowment 10 years from now. First gen or URM are not likely to be billionaires after getting their degrees. Who will pay?

You sure about that? A lot of tech billionaires are first generation.

Haha no.

Anonymous wrote:I truly do not buy the premise of this piece.

+1

There is nothing of substance to her allegations and it comes across as whining.

Saying to a low income student that you understand her experience because you're "NYC low income" is stupid and cringe-inducing but it's not the same as being admitted to college as a low income student. I think people are conflating the two.

I truly do not buy the premise of this piece.

I was first-gen college student. My dad didn't even graduate high school. My mom great up poor. They started a business and became very successful through hard work and perseverance. I lived a very nice upper middle class life because of their hard work.

They were unable to help me with homework, applications, or to give me advice about colleges. They were literate and good with numbers but they were not learned. If you asked them about literature or anthropology or anything like that they would shake their heads.

It does happen that you are truly first-gen and it still means something, even if you are. not low income. I am blessed that I did not have to worry about money like my parents did. So I did not have hardship. But my first-gen status is legitimate.

It was very hard for them to wrap their heads about me going to college. It was intimidating for them, especially during college tours when other parents would ask mine where they went. They felt very awkward, especially my dad since he didn't finish high school.

Anonymous wrote:I am Ashkenazi Jewish and my husband is a non Jew - can my kids state they are multi racial?

Is your husband a POC? Ashkenazi Jewish = white.

- signed Jew of Color.

Cry me a river. In a corrupt system with zero sum outcomes, where some group is given special consideration, you force other groups to play games.

It's human nature. It had happened in every culture in every period of history

I am Ashkenazi Jewish and my husband is a non Jew - can my kids state they are multi racial?

You should at minimum just check biracial if you are a race or ethnicity that does not count as diversity. In the current climate, you also want to be able to call yourself a POC in order to not be at a disadvantage being admitted.

Is there any reason to believe that applicants across the board don’t lie to the same extent? Any reason to think Rich, upper middle class, middle class and lower financial class lie to a greater or lesser degree? About activities, personal history? I don’t doubt at all that there are scammers applying to colleges, but I don’t have any reason to think scamming is reserved to a particular economic group. his

I believe all of this. It’s a crazy system.

The schools spend like 2 minutes on each application.

I know of kids who lied about race/ethnicity and got in..