Our daycare is back to masking because there are elderly people who attend classes and such in a different part of the building. Which seems a bit odd to me but it’s the landlord’s call and probably for the best with this wave although no changes for lunch/naps so…..

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Anonymous wrote:people are insufficiently considering long covid into their risk calculus.

The symptoms described as “long covid” occur at similar rates following flu infections. We don’t close classrooms for single flu cases.

Besides that, it’s not clear what you think would be a sensible response. Whether you are exposed to covid, and this at risk of covid and long covid, is just a matter of when, not if.

Ignore the PP. They have not been able to offer a response to existing evidence that long COVID is not a major issue for children (but that the pandemic as a whole, include isolation and restrictions) have deeply impacted them, so instead the repeat the misinformation they have been spreading.

PP, you are a disgusting, garbage human being.

Anonymous wrote:people are insufficiently considering long covid into their risk calculus.

The symptoms described as “long covid” occur at similar rates following flu infections. We don’t close classrooms for single flu cases.

Besides that, it’s not clear what you think would be a sensible response. Whether you are exposed to covid, and this at risk of covid and long covid, is just a matter of when, not if.

people are insufficiently considering long covid into their risk calculus.

Anonymous wrote:The replies are awful and show us exactly why we are still in this mess. Sorry your kid is sick. I hope they have an easy case and the rest of your family can stay negative

Exactly. It is ridiculous to think there are still some people that think covid is simply going to go away. The only way out of the mess we’re in is for people to realize and accept that covid is becoming endemic. And will remain so for the rest of our lives.

I’m sorry OP and I hope your child will be better soon. We just had an outbreak in our daycare/preschool and both our kids are home with COVID infections. One is asymptomatic and the other feeling pretty sick. I do think cases are increasing exponentially right now but many are in denial, shedding masks and other protective measures that could still limit transmission and spread in our community.

It’s hard for parents of younger kids with continued uncertainty, child care closures, etc. I would also urge cation with the home tests. Our asymptomatic child is negative on the antigen test but positive on the PCR. Be well everyone and please continue to do your part to keep others safe.

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Anonymous wrote:It's also important to point out is something that we DO know from existing research is that symptoms in children which were previously (and erroneously) connected with long COVID are actually symptoms of stress from the pandemic, meaning the stress associated with things like:

- Deaths and severe disease among caregivers and loved ones
- Fear of COVID
- Financial insecurity
- Social isolation
- Virtual schooling

So you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. Avoiding COVID at all costs is, in most cases, not good for kids.

Can you please cite?

JFC, maybe take a moment to read the links already cited? Here it is again
https://www.statnews.com/2022/02/14/controlled-studies-ease-worries-widespread-long-covid-kids/

Anonymous wrote:It's also important to point out is something that we DO know from existing research is that symptoms in children which were previously (and erroneously) connected with long COVID are actually symptoms of stress from the pandemic, meaning the stress associated with things like:

- Deaths and severe disease among caregivers and loved ones
- Fear of COVID
- Financial insecurity
- Social isolation
- Virtual schooling

So you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. Avoiding COVID at all costs is, in most cases, not good for kids.

Can you please cite?

It's also important to point out is something that we DO know from existing research is that symptoms in children which were previously (and erroneously) connected with long COVID are actually symptoms of stress from the pandemic, meaning the stress associated with things like:

- Deaths and severe disease among caregivers and loved ones
- Fear of COVID
- Financial insecurity
- Social isolation
- Virtual schooling

So you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. Avoiding COVID at all costs is, in most cases, not good for kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Omg who cares? It’s like a mild cold in most children.

Did you read? The OP’s child was so bad they needed hospitalization.

It doesn't sound like OP's kid was actually hospitalized.

NP here. My kid was actually hospitalized with RSV. I can’t believe parents of young kids are still so terrified of COVID despite somehow existing with the risk of RSV before, which is way worse for the really little ones.

Both are equally concerning.

Of course they are concerning but anyone who is actually being honest recognizes we can't continue masking young children or requiring 10 day quarantines forever and neither COVID nor RSV are going away.

Long COVID is real. I don’t want that for my kid.

So I heard a report that something like 75% of kids had antibodies for omicron- probably a lot of kids have had extremely mild/asymptomatic, undetected cases (during a time of very high mask usage). I wonder how many will manifest as long Covid……

I'm hopeful it won't be a lot

Over the last two years, experts’ understanding of long Covid in children has deepened. Several peer-reviewed studies now include control groups consisting of children who did not have Covid-19 but who have lived through the same pandemic conditions — loneliness, interrupted schooling, anxiety, tensions at home, the loss of loved ones, and the like.

These studies indicate that long Covid in children is rare and, when it does occur, is short-lived. In one study, 97% of children ages 5 to 11 with Covid-19 recovered completely within four weeks. In the small group that had bothersome symptoms after four weeks (usually loss of smell or fatigue), most had fully recovered by eight weeks.

https://www.statnews.com/2022/02/14/controlled-studies-ease-worries-widespread-long-covid-kids/

That sounds more like medium-Covid. What about the unknown effects that we won't know until years from now? Some astonishing changes to the brain have been observed in adults but has anyone looked at this in kids?

Let me google that for you

The study volunteers were predominantly White and were all middle-aged or older adults. It’s unknown how the findings will translate to younger adults or to children. The researchers pointed out that the effects were greater in the study’s older participants.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2790595#:~:text=greater%20loss%20of%20gray%20matter,increase%20in%20cerebrospinal%20fluid%20volume

Dr. Google will tell me all the long term effects years from now? Wow he is pretty smart!

This is what I was answering from your post:

Some astonishing changes to the brain have been observed in adults but has anyone looked at this in kids?

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Anonymous wrote:Omg who cares? It’s like a mild cold in most children.

Did you read? The OP’s child was so bad they needed hospitalization.

It doesn't sound like OP's kid was actually hospitalized.

NP here. My kid was actually hospitalized with RSV. I can’t believe parents of young kids are still so terrified of COVID despite somehow existing with the risk of RSV before, which is way worse for the really little ones.

Both are equally concerning.

Of course they are concerning but anyone who is actually being honest recognizes we can't continue masking young children or requiring 10 day quarantines forever and neither COVID nor RSV are going away.

Long COVID is real. I don’t want that for my kid.

So I heard a report that something like 75% of kids had antibodies for omicron- probably a lot of kids have had extremely mild/asymptomatic, undetected cases (during a time of very high mask usage). I wonder how many will manifest as long Covid……

I'm hopeful it won't be a lot

Over the last two years, experts’ understanding of long Covid in children has deepened. Several peer-reviewed studies now include control groups consisting of children who did not have Covid-19 but who have lived through the same pandemic conditions — loneliness, interrupted schooling, anxiety, tensions at home, the loss of loved ones, and the like.

These studies indicate that long Covid in children is rare and, when it does occur, is short-lived. In one study, 97% of children ages 5 to 11 with Covid-19 recovered completely within four weeks. In the small group that had bothersome symptoms after four weeks (usually loss of smell or fatigue), most had fully recovered by eight weeks.

https://www.statnews.com/2022/02/14/controlled-studies-ease-worries-widespread-long-covid-kids/

That sounds more like medium-Covid. What about the unknown effects that we won't know until years from now? Some astonishing changes to the brain have been observed in adults but has anyone looked at this in kids?

Let me google that for you

The study volunteers were predominantly White and were all middle-aged or older adults. It’s unknown how the findings will translate to younger adults or to children. The researchers pointed out that the effects were greater in the study’s older participants.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2790595#:~:text=greater%20loss%20of%20gray%20matter,increase%20in%20cerebrospinal%20fluid%20volume

Dr. Google will tell me all the long term effects years from now? Wow he is pretty smart!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg who cares? It’s like a mild cold in most children.

Did you read? The OP’s child was so bad they needed hospitalization.

It doesn't sound like OP's kid was actually hospitalized.

NP here. My kid was actually hospitalized with RSV. I can’t believe parents of young kids are still so terrified of COVID despite somehow existing with the risk of RSV before, which is way worse for the really little ones.

Both are equally concerning.

Of course they are concerning but anyone who is actually being honest recognizes we can't continue masking young children or requiring 10 day quarantines forever and neither COVID nor RSV are going away.

Long COVID is real. I don’t want that for my kid.

So I heard a report that something like 75% of kids had antibodies for omicron- probably a lot of kids have had extremely mild/asymptomatic, undetected cases (during a time of very high mask usage). I wonder how many will manifest as long Covid……

I'm hopeful it won't be a lot

Over the last two years, experts’ understanding of long Covid in children has deepened. Several peer-reviewed studies now include control groups consisting of children who did not have Covid-19 but who have lived through the same pandemic conditions — loneliness, interrupted schooling, anxiety, tensions at home, the loss of loved ones, and the like.

These studies indicate that long Covid in children is rare and, when it does occur, is short-lived. In one study, 97% of children ages 5 to 11 with Covid-19 recovered completely within four weeks. In the small group that had bothersome symptoms after four weeks (usually loss of smell or fatigue), most had fully recovered by eight weeks.

https://www.statnews.com/2022/02/14/controlled-studies-ease-worries-widespread-long-covid-kids/

That sounds more like medium-Covid. What about the unknown effects that we won't know until years from now? Some astonishing changes to the brain have been observed in adults but has anyone looked at this in kids?

Let me google that for you

The study volunteers were predominantly White and were all middle-aged or older adults. It’s unknown how the findings will translate to younger adults or to children. The researchers pointed out that the effects were greater in the study’s older participants.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2790595#:~:text=greater%20loss%20of%20gray%20matter,increase%20in%20cerebrospinal%20fluid%20volume

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg who cares? It’s like a mild cold in most children.

Did you read? The OP’s child was so bad they needed hospitalization.

It doesn't sound like OP's kid was actually hospitalized.

NP here. My kid was actually hospitalized with RSV. I can’t believe parents of young kids are still so terrified of COVID despite somehow existing with the risk of RSV before, which is way worse for the really little ones.

Both are equally concerning.

Of course they are concerning but anyone who is actually being honest recognizes we can't continue masking young children or requiring 10 day quarantines forever and neither COVID nor RSV are going away.

Long COVID is real. I don’t want that for my kid.

So I heard a report that something like 75% of kids had antibodies for omicron- probably a lot of kids have had extremely mild/asymptomatic, undetected cases (during a time of very high mask usage). I wonder how many will manifest as long Covid……

I'm hopeful it won't be a lot

Over the last two years, experts’ understanding of long Covid in children has deepened. Several peer-reviewed studies now include control groups consisting of children who did not have Covid-19 but who have lived through the same pandemic conditions — loneliness, interrupted schooling, anxiety, tensions at home, the loss of loved ones, and the like.

These studies indicate that long Covid in children is rare and, when it does occur, is short-lived. In one study, 97% of children ages 5 to 11 with Covid-19 recovered completely within four weeks. In the small group that had bothersome symptoms after four weeks (usually loss of smell or fatigue), most had fully recovered by eight weeks.

https://www.statnews.com/2022/02/14/controlled-studies-ease-worries-widespread-long-covid-kids/

That sounds more like medium-Covid. What about the unknown effects that we won't know until years from now? Some astonishing changes to the brain have been observed in adults but has anyone looked at this in kids?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg who cares? It’s like a mild cold in most children.

Did you read? The OP’s child was so bad they needed hospitalization.

It doesn't sound like OP's kid was actually hospitalized.

NP here. My kid was actually hospitalized with RSV. I can’t believe parents of young kids are still so terrified of COVID despite somehow existing with the risk of RSV before, which is way worse for the really little ones.

Both are equally concerning.

Of course they are concerning but anyone who is actually being honest recognizes we can't continue masking young children or requiring 10 day quarantines forever and neither COVID nor RSV are going away.

Long COVID is real. I don’t want that for my kid.

So I heard a report that something like 75% of kids had antibodies for omicron- probably a lot of kids have had extremely mild/asymptomatic, undetected cases (during a time of very high mask usage). I wonder how many will manifest as long Covid……

I'm hopeful it won't be a lot

Over the last two years, experts’ understanding of long Covid in children has deepened. Several peer-reviewed studies now include control groups consisting of children who did not have Covid-19 but who have lived through the same pandemic conditions — loneliness, interrupted schooling, anxiety, tensions at home, the loss of loved ones, and the like.

These studies indicate that long Covid in children is rare and, when it does occur, is short-lived. In one study, 97% of children ages 5 to 11 with Covid-19 recovered completely within four weeks. In the small group that had bothersome symptoms after four weeks (usually loss of smell or fatigue), most had fully recovered by eight weeks.

https://www.statnews.com/2022/02/14/controlled-studies-ease-worries-widespread-long-covid-kids/

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Omg who cares? It’s like a mild cold in most children.

Did you read? The OP’s child was so bad they needed hospitalization.

It doesn't sound like OP's kid was actually hospitalized.

NP here. My kid was actually hospitalized with RSV. I can’t believe parents of young kids are still so terrified of COVID despite somehow existing with the risk of RSV before, which is way worse for the really little ones.

Both are equally concerning.

Of course they are concerning but anyone who is actually being honest recognizes we can't continue masking young children or requiring 10 day quarantines forever and neither COVID nor RSV are going away.

Long COVID is real. I don’t want that for my kid.

So I heard a report that something like 75% of kids had antibodies for omicron- probably a lot of kids have had extremely mild/asymptomatic, undetected cases (during a time of very high mask usage). I wonder how many will manifest as long Covid……