Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Aren't the media’s petty and transparent attacks on the President sedition, especially while he’s fighting a war?
No. The press is free, even during war. And we are not fighting a war, so double no.
Yes, we are. We are making massive contributions in military equipment, training, logistical support, intelligence support, humanitarian aid and assistance in Ukraine's war against Russia.
That's not the same thing as sending our people into combat.
You send your family members first
I am a combat veteran. Im saying that we are not at war yet.
Then you more than most understand that in these horrifying times, as the President stands alone in leading a unified coalition in fighting the Russians, that a united front is necessary to crush them. Part of that united front is ensuring the press supports the administration’s messaging. Anything else is almost traitorous.
DP.
Sorry. You people throw out "traitor" at the drop of a hat. We pretty much ignore your whining at this point.
We live in a free country with a relatively free press. Unless they publish national security secrets that could compromise some action, they are certainly free to criticize the president and his decisions.
He has made many mistakes WRT the war Russia has waged on Ukraine. He used threats of sanctions as "deterrence" that didn't work, then claimed that they weren't intended as deterrence. (We have the video of many of his administration - including the VP - that they WERE intended as deterrence.) He has been late to send weaponry and supplies to Ukraine. Intelligence was pretty damn confident that Russia was going to invade, so why wait until AFTER they invaded to send weaponry? And, the reason for not sending them MIGS is just stupid. Offensive vs. defensive weapons? Please. Anything we send them is defensive at this point since they were invaded.
And, you make it sound as if Biden is the only one leading. Actually, he is not leading at all. He has been 3 steps behind.
Anonymous wrote:Why IS the press rooting against Biden? Is it just that bad news sells more than good news?
https://pressrun.media/p/is-the-press-rooting-against-biden?s=r
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is this thread a joke? The press had a 4 year feeding frenzy on trump. Their ratings were through the roof.
I do not see the media as against biden at all; he is just a really old dude and a below average president at best.
He has no new ideas, inflation is terrible, And our southern border is chaos. There is nothing positive so far in his term so not much to report on.
This.
It is like some people here have a very different reality.
As to why the media is being more critical as of late.... I agree with what a pp said.... "Eventually you have to stop bailing water and try to save yourself before the boat sinks.'
They really f'ed up with the whole laptop story. They also f'ed up with the whole 3 years of Russian collusion. And, their coverage of the riots during the summer of 2020 was horrendous.
At some point, they have to start cozying up with the actual truth. Things are not going well in the country or internationally.
Media credibility is at an all time low. Perhaps they are finally recognizing that they have to start being honest with the American people who consume their news.
Exactly.
F'ed what up exactly?
On "Russian Collusion" no, there wasn't smoking gun blockbuster produced with Trump and Putin in a smoke filled room making secret deals.
But in the absence of that, the right wing pretends "nothing happened, it's all a huge lie."
But that isn't at all the case. Remember, there were 34 indictments that came out of Mueller's investigation before he was pulled back and shut down, including senior Trump campaign officials and including Russian officials. Not to mention, our IC DID find evidence of Russian attempts at tampering with our election, but every time it was brought up, Trump and his army of MAGAs would start screaming and pushing back - effectively aiding Putin.
And then the matter of the Steele Dossier, which the right wing called "dodgy" and pretended the entire thing was a lie yet when it was repeatedly pointed out that a good 80% plus of the Dossier was NOT "dodgy" as it was independently corroborated as true, the right wing again quietly pooh-pooed it saying "yeah well that's all known open source info" essentially admitting to the many Russia connections in Trump's business and personal life.
And we still have SO MANY other unresolved issues and questions, like what exactly transpired in the 2 hour meeting Trump had with Putin behind closed doors, with no transcript made available? We still deserve answers.
And now here you are, again trying to pretend that the media lied about EVERYTHING Russia, when that is not at all the case. And, when any of these questions are raised, you all shriek "RUSSIA COLLUSION! FAKE NEWS!" and completely shut down, again AIDING Putin.
+1
The GOP was and is absolutely working with Russia. If Republicans don’t understand this, and keep pivoting back to the Steele Dossier as if it is the only piece of evidence of this, it’s because they dwell only in the dodgiest of the far right media. The “mainstream” media is against Biden, but more or less uses facts and bias. The far right wing media left fact based behind a while ago.
How exactly is the GOP “working” with Russia?
Facts, please.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is this thread a joke? The press had a 4 year feeding frenzy on trump. Their ratings were through the roof.
I do not see the media as against biden at all; he is just a really old dude and a below average president at best.
He has no new ideas, inflation is terrible, And our southern border is chaos. There is nothing positive so far in his term so not much to report on.
This.
It is like some people here have a very different reality.
As to why the media is being more critical as of late.... I agree with what a pp said.... "Eventually you have to stop bailing water and try to save yourself before the boat sinks.'
They really f'ed up with the whole laptop story. They also f'ed up with the whole 3 years of Russian collusion. And, their coverage of the riots during the summer of 2020 was horrendous.
At some point, they have to start cozying up with the actual truth. Things are not going well in the country or internationally.
Media credibility is at an all time low. Perhaps they are finally recognizing that they have to start being honest with the American people who consume their news.
Exactly.
F'ed what up exactly?
On "Russian Collusion" no, there wasn't smoking gun blockbuster produced with Trump and Putin in a smoke filled room making secret deals.
But in the absence of that, the right wing pretends "nothing happened, it's all a huge lie."
But that isn't at all the case. Remember, there were 34 indictments that came out of Mueller's investigation before he was pulled back and shut down, including senior Trump campaign officials and including Russian officials. Not to mention, our IC DID find evidence of Russian attempts at tampering with our election, but every time it was brought up, Trump and his army of MAGAs would start screaming and pushing back - effectively aiding Putin.
And then the matter of the Steele Dossier, which the right wing called "dodgy" and pretended the entire thing was a lie yet when it was repeatedly pointed out that a good 80% plus of the Dossier was NOT "dodgy" as it was independently corroborated as true, the right wing again quietly pooh-pooed it saying "yeah well that's all known open source info" essentially admitting to the many Russia connections in Trump's business and personal life.
And we still have SO MANY other unresolved issues and questions, like what exactly transpired in the 2 hour meeting Trump had with Putin behind closed doors, with no transcript made available? We still deserve answers.
And now here you are, again trying to pretend that the media lied about EVERYTHING Russia, when that is not at all the case. And, when any of these questions are raised, you all shriek "RUSSIA COLLUSION! FAKE NEWS!" and completely shut down, again AIDING Putin.
+1
The GOP was and is absolutely working with Russia. If Republicans don’t understand this, and keep pivoting back to the Steele Dossier as if it is the only piece of evidence of this, it’s because they dwell only in the dodgiest of the far right media. The “mainstream” media is against Biden, but more or less uses facts and bias. The far right wing media left fact based behind a while ago.
How exactly is the GOP “working” with Russia?
Facts, please.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is this thread a joke? The press had a 4 year feeding frenzy on trump. Their ratings were through the roof.
I do not see the media as against biden at all; he is just a really old dude and a below average president at best.
He has no new ideas, inflation is terrible, And our southern border is chaos. There is nothing positive so far in his term so not much to report on.
This.
It is like some people here have a very different reality.
As to why the media is being more critical as of late.... I agree with what a pp said.... "Eventually you have to stop bailing water and try to save yourself before the boat sinks.'
They really f'ed up with the whole laptop story. They also f'ed up with the whole 3 years of Russian collusion. And, their coverage of the riots during the summer of 2020 was horrendous.
At some point, they have to start cozying up with the actual truth. Things are not going well in the country or internationally.
Media credibility is at an all time low. Perhaps they are finally recognizing that they have to start being honest with the American people who consume their news.
Exactly.
F'ed what up exactly?
On "Russian Collusion" no, there wasn't smoking gun blockbuster produced with Trump and Putin in a smoke filled room making secret deals.
But in the absence of that, the right wing pretends "nothing happened, it's all a huge lie."
But that isn't at all the case. Remember, there were 34 indictments that came out of Mueller's investigation before he was pulled back and shut down, including senior Trump campaign officials and including Russian officials. Not to mention, our IC DID find evidence of Russian attempts at tampering with our election, but every time it was brought up, Trump and his army of MAGAs would start screaming and pushing back - effectively aiding Putin.
And then the matter of the Steele Dossier, which the right wing called "dodgy" and pretended the entire thing was a lie yet when it was repeatedly pointed out that a good 80% plus of the Dossier was NOT "dodgy" as it was independently corroborated as true, the right wing again quietly pooh-pooed it saying "yeah well that's all known open source info" essentially admitting to the many Russia connections in Trump's business and personal life.
And we still have SO MANY other unresolved issues and questions, like what exactly transpired in the 2 hour meeting Trump had with Putin behind closed doors, with no transcript made available? We still deserve answers.
And now here you are, again trying to pretend that the media lied about EVERYTHING Russia, when that is not at all the case. And, when any of these questions are raised, you all shriek "RUSSIA COLLUSION! FAKE NEWS!" and completely shut down, again AIDING Putin.
+1
The GOP was and is absolutely working with Russia. If Republicans don’t understand this, and keep pivoting back to the Steele Dossier as if it is the only piece of evidence of this, it’s because they dwell only in the dodgiest of the far right media. The “mainstream” media is against Biden, but more or less uses facts and bias. The far right wing media left fact based behind a while ago.
How exactly is the GOP “working” with Russia?
Facts, please.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is this thread a joke? The press had a 4 year feeding frenzy on trump. Their ratings were through the roof.
I do not see the media as against biden at all; he is just a really old dude and a below average president at best.
He has no new ideas, inflation is terrible, And our southern border is chaos. There is nothing positive so far in his term so not much to report on.
This.
It is like some people here have a very different reality.
As to why the media is being more critical as of late.... I agree with what a pp said.... "Eventually you have to stop bailing water and try to save yourself before the boat sinks.'
They really f'ed up with the whole laptop story. They also f'ed up with the whole 3 years of Russian collusion. And, their coverage of the riots during the summer of 2020 was horrendous.
At some point, they have to start cozying up with the actual truth. Things are not going well in the country or internationally.
Media credibility is at an all time low. Perhaps they are finally recognizing that they have to start being honest with the American people who consume their news.
Exactly.
F'ed what up exactly?
On "Russian Collusion" no, there wasn't smoking gun blockbuster produced with Trump and Putin in a smoke filled room making secret deals.
But in the absence of that, the right wing pretends "nothing happened, it's all a huge lie."
But that isn't at all the case. Remember, there were 34 indictments that came out of Mueller's investigation before he was pulled back and shut down, including senior Trump campaign officials and including Russian officials. Not to mention, our IC DID find evidence of Russian attempts at tampering with our election, but every time it was brought up, Trump and his army of MAGAs would start screaming and pushing back - effectively aiding Putin.
And then the matter of the Steele Dossier, which the right wing called "dodgy" and pretended the entire thing was a lie yet when it was repeatedly pointed out that a good 80% plus of the Dossier was NOT "dodgy" as it was independently corroborated as true, the right wing again quietly pooh-pooed it saying "yeah well that's all known open source info" essentially admitting to the many Russia connections in Trump's business and personal life.
And we still have SO MANY other unresolved issues and questions, like what exactly transpired in the 2 hour meeting Trump had with Putin behind closed doors, with no transcript made available? We still deserve answers.
And now here you are, again trying to pretend that the media lied about EVERYTHING Russia, when that is not at all the case. And, when any of these questions are raised, you all shriek "RUSSIA COLLUSION! FAKE NEWS!" and completely shut down, again AIDING Putin.
+1
The GOP was and is absolutely working with Russia. If Republicans don’t understand this, and keep pivoting back to the Steele Dossier as if it is the only piece of evidence of this, it’s because they dwell only in the dodgiest of the far right media. The “mainstream” media is against Biden, but more or less uses facts and bias. The far right wing media left fact based behind a while ago.
How exactly is the GOP “working” with Russia?
Facts, please.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is this thread a joke? The press had a 4 year feeding frenzy on trump. Their ratings were through the roof.
I do not see the media as against biden at all; he is just a really old dude and a below average president at best.
He has no new ideas, inflation is terrible, And our southern border is chaos. There is nothing positive so far in his term so not much to report on.
This.
It is like some people here have a very different reality.
As to why the media is being more critical as of late.... I agree with what a pp said.... "Eventually you have to stop bailing water and try to save yourself before the boat sinks.'
They really f'ed up with the whole laptop story. They also f'ed up with the whole 3 years of Russian collusion. And, their coverage of the riots during the summer of 2020 was horrendous.
At some point, they have to start cozying up with the actual truth. Things are not going well in the country or internationally.
Media credibility is at an all time low. Perhaps they are finally recognizing that they have to start being honest with the American people who consume their news.
Exactly.
F'ed what up exactly?
On "Russian Collusion" no, there wasn't smoking gun blockbuster produced with Trump and Putin in a smoke filled room making secret deals.
But in the absence of that, the right wing pretends "nothing happened, it's all a huge lie."
But that isn't at all the case. Remember, there were 34 indictments that came out of Mueller's investigation before he was pulled back and shut down, including senior Trump campaign officials and including Russian officials. Not to mention, our IC DID find evidence of Russian attempts at tampering with our election, but every time it was brought up, Trump and his army of MAGAs would start screaming and pushing back - effectively aiding Putin.
And then the matter of the Steele Dossier, which the right wing called "dodgy" and pretended the entire thing was a lie yet when it was repeatedly pointed out that a good 80% plus of the Dossier was NOT "dodgy" as it was independently corroborated as true, the right wing again quietly pooh-pooed it saying "yeah well that's all known open source info" essentially admitting to the many Russia connections in Trump's business and personal life.
And we still have SO MANY other unresolved issues and questions, like what exactly transpired in the 2 hour meeting Trump had with Putin behind closed doors, with no transcript made available? We still deserve answers.
And now here you are, again trying to pretend that the media lied about EVERYTHING Russia, when that is not at all the case. And, when any of these questions are raised, you all shriek "RUSSIA COLLUSION! FAKE NEWS!" and completely shut down, again AIDING Putin.
+1
The GOP was and is absolutely working with Russia. If Republicans don’t understand this, and keep pivoting back to the Steele Dossier as if it is the only piece of evidence of this, it’s because they dwell only in the dodgiest of the far right media. The “mainstream” media is against Biden, but more or less uses facts and bias. The far right wing media left fact based behind a while ago.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Aren't the media’s petty and transparent attacks on the President sedition, especially while he’s fighting a war?
No. The press is free, even during war. And we are not fighting a war, so double no.
Yes, we are. We are making massive contributions in military equipment, training, logistical support, intelligence support, humanitarian aid and assistance in Ukraine's war against Russia.
That's not the same thing as sending our people into combat.
You send your family members first
I am a combat veteran. Im saying that we are not at war yet.
Then you more than most understand that in these horrifying times, as the President stands alone in leading a unified coalition in fighting the Russians, that a united front is necessary to crush them. Part of that united front is ensuring the press supports the administration’s messaging. Anything else is almost traitorous.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Aren't the media’s petty and transparent attacks on the President sedition, especially while he’s fighting a war?
No. The press is free, even during war. And we are not fighting a war, so double no.
Yes, we are. We are making massive contributions in military equipment, training, logistical support, intelligence support, humanitarian aid and assistance in Ukraine's war against Russia.
That's not the same thing as sending our people into combat.
You send your family members first
I am a combat veteran. Im saying that we are not at war yet.
Then you more than most understand that in these horrifying times, as the President stands alone in leading a unified coalition in fighting the Russians, that a united front is necessary to crush them. Part of that united front is ensuring the press supports the administration’s messaging. Anything else is almost traitorous.