Anonymous
Post 03/16/2022 19:50     Subject: any cons in suspended student loans debt?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I mean if they're going to be forgiving your student debt they better be prepared to retroactively reimburse everyone. While some of you where whooping it up having a fun college experience, some of us had our nose to the grindstone going to school and working to finance the tuition. You know? You make choices, now live with them.


Why would you think you are entitled to any reimbursement? Amazing how boomers come up with creative ways to grift. Sorry student loan forgiveness triggers some of you but you better get comfortable with it.


WAIT. Let me get your thinking figured out. You're saying you're entitled to loan forgiveness, but I've got some sort of nerve to demand retroactive reimbursement for tuition?

Your logic sucks.

First of all, I said that tongue in cheek, trying to illustrate that my asking for reimbursement is as silly as you asking for loan forgiveness. It's YOUR loan. You chose to take out the loan, so pay it back. You're the grifter.

I was the one who figured out that if I didn't want to take out loans I needed to work twice as hard as you did during your college years, because I was working and going to school. And you're calling me a grifter? WHAT?



You don't have student loans so have no stake in student loan forgiveness. Do you also stomp your feet in front of the food stamp offices demanding reimbursement for buying your own groceries? Is the government going to give you money for paying rent when others had their payments paused? Nope!

Good job paying off your loans though. We can all be proud of you for that.


No point in arguing with crazy like you. We're talking about loans taken out voluntarily, we're not talking about food stamps. Exactly why do you think it's appropriate to conflate apples and oranges?


Exactly. Young adults take out credit card debt, payday loans, and auto loans. Should we forgive that too? In fact, lower income people tend to hold more of these kinds of debts. It would be more fair to forgive that before student loans held by higher income households.
Anonymous
Post 03/16/2022 18:49     Subject: any cons in suspended student loans debt?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I mean if they're going to be forgiving your student debt they better be prepared to retroactively reimburse everyone. While some of you where whooping it up having a fun college experience, some of us had our nose to the grindstone going to school and working to finance the tuition. You know? You make choices, now live with them.


Why would you think you are entitled to any reimbursement? Amazing how boomers come up with creative ways to grift. Sorry student loan forgiveness triggers some of you but you better get comfortable with it.


WAIT. Let me get your thinking figured out. You're saying you're entitled to loan forgiveness, but I've got some sort of nerve to demand retroactive reimbursement for tuition?

Your logic sucks.

First of all, I said that tongue in cheek, trying to illustrate that my asking for reimbursement is as silly as you asking for loan forgiveness. It's YOUR loan. You chose to take out the loan, so pay it back. You're the grifter.

I was the one who figured out that if I didn't want to take out loans I needed to work twice as hard as you did during your college years, because I was working and going to school. And you're calling me a grifter? WHAT?



You don't have student loans so have no stake in student loan forgiveness. Do you also stomp your feet in front of the food stamp offices demanding reimbursement for buying your own groceries? Is the government going to give you money for paying rent when others had their payments paused? Nope!

Good job paying off your loans though. We can all be proud of you for that.


No point in arguing with crazy like you. We're talking about loans taken out voluntarily, we're not talking about food stamps. Exactly why do you think it's appropriate to conflate apples and oranges?
Anonymous
Post 03/16/2022 11:34     Subject: any cons in suspended student loans debt?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I mean if they're going to be forgiving your student debt they better be prepared to retroactively reimburse everyone. While some of you where whooping it up having a fun college experience, some of us had our nose to the grindstone going to school and working to finance the tuition. You know? You make choices, now live with them.


Why would you think you are entitled to any reimbursement? Amazing how boomers come up with creative ways to grift. Sorry student loan forgiveness triggers some of you but you better get comfortable with it.


WAIT. Let me get your thinking figured out. You're saying you're entitled to loan forgiveness, but I've got some sort of nerve to demand retroactive reimbursement for tuition?

Your logic sucks.

First of all, I said that tongue in cheek, trying to illustrate that my asking for reimbursement is as silly as you asking for loan forgiveness. It's YOUR loan. You chose to take out the loan, so pay it back. You're the grifter.

I was the one who figured out that if I didn't want to take out loans I needed to work twice as hard as you did during your college years, because I was working and going to school. And you're calling me a grifter? WHAT?



You don't have student loans so have no stake in student loan forgiveness. Do you also stomp your feet in front of the food stamp offices demanding reimbursement for buying your own groceries? Is the government going to give you money for paying rent when others had their payments paused? Nope!

Good job paying off your loans though. We can all be proud of you for that.


I hear you, but the difference is that people who took out more of these loans tend to be people who earn more income versus non college attendees. I would demand reimbursement for food stamps if they were going to upper middle class.
Anonymous
Post 03/16/2022 11:26     Subject: any cons in suspended student loans debt?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I mean if they're going to be forgiving your student debt they better be prepared to retroactively reimburse everyone. While some of you where whooping it up having a fun college experience, some of us had our nose to the grindstone going to school and working to finance the tuition. You know? You make choices, now live with them.


Why would you think you are entitled to any reimbursement? Amazing how boomers come up with creative ways to grift. Sorry student loan forgiveness triggers some of you but you better get comfortable with it.


WAIT. Let me get your thinking figured out. You're saying you're entitled to loan forgiveness, but I've got some sort of nerve to demand retroactive reimbursement for tuition?

Your logic sucks.

First of all, I said that tongue in cheek, trying to illustrate that my asking for reimbursement is as silly as you asking for loan forgiveness. It's YOUR loan. You chose to take out the loan, so pay it back. You're the grifter.

I was the one who figured out that if I didn't want to take out loans I needed to work twice as hard as you did during your college years, because I was working and going to school. And you're calling me a grifter? WHAT?



You don't have student loans so have no stake in student loan forgiveness. Do you also stomp your feet in front of the food stamp offices demanding reimbursement for buying your own groceries? Is the government going to give you money for paying rent when others had their payments paused? Nope!

Good job paying off your loans though. We can all be proud of you for that.
Anonymous
Post 03/16/2022 10:29     Subject: any cons in suspended student loans debt?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s hilarious all these Millennials who say stuff like “get used to it” and “it’s happening” as if by saying it forcefully enough will make it be so.

They learned it from Bernie, who never has any actual plan for how to get his proposals enacted.


And Sanders, for all his years on the Hill, got next to nothing done, on this issue or any other.


+1
Anonymous
Post 03/16/2022 06:27     Subject: any cons in suspended student loans debt?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It’s hilarious all these Millennials who say stuff like “get used to it” and “it’s happening” as if by saying it forcefully enough will make it be so.

They learned it from Bernie, who never has any actual plan for how to get his proposals enacted.


And Sanders, for all his years on the Hill, got next to nothing done, on this issue or any other.
Anonymous
Post 03/16/2022 01:43     Subject: Re:any cons in suspended student loans debt?
I was very lucky in that my parents paid for my undergrad. They also subsidized my law degree. I had to take out a loan but was able to pay it off easily. It wouldn't have been so easy if my parents hadn't helped with aspects of my COL and other stuff when I was in law school.

I'm completely fine with debt forgiveness so long as it's targeted at people who are low income and genuinely aren't able to pay off loans. I'm not cool with paying off the debt of people who can pay it themselves but are just mad that they have to.

I would say that the idea that "because i paid debt it's unfair that you might not have to pay debt" isn't an argument that's persuasive to me. There are many programs my tax dollars contribute to that I personally didn't directly benefit from.

If you want to go down that road, please send me a cheque for subsidizing a massive farmer bailout created by Trump's idiotic trade policies. I also think that Israel should pay its own security bill. Can i get a tax credit for that one, please?
Anonymous
Post 03/16/2022 00:01     Subject: Re:any cons in suspended student loans debt?
Anonymous wrote:I find amazing we have all this talk about forgiving the loans but none whatsoever about the Democrats' sacred cow: higher education.

There's no point forgiving loans if you don't reform the source of the problem: the high cost of higher education.

American higher education is incredibly bloated, incredibly inefficient, and stacked with too many programs and too many administrators all looking to cash in on the easily available loans. Somehow other countries manage to provide universities at a much lower cost, or even free, but these places are also much more bare bones compared to the US. Back to the basics.

The government should firmly cap the limit of student loans to a specific sum tied to the value of the degree. That would drive most master's programs underwater and bankrupt, to which I say good riddance. Most master's are not needed. It would, of course, directly hit a key Democratic target, which is why they don't talk about it at all, despite that any reform to student loans must include reform of the higher education funding model.


I'm a Democrat and I completely agree. I don't know about capping all of the masters programs because if you think about social work many jobs require masters of social work because it's a lot of internship so I mean maybe you'd have to change the model but a masters of social work doesn't get you much in the pay realm but it is necessary for public good
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2022 23:59     Subject: any cons in suspended student loans debt?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I mean if they're going to be forgiving your student debt they better be prepared to retroactively reimburse everyone. While some of you where whooping it up having a fun college experience, some of us had our nose to the grindstone going to school and working to finance the tuition. You know? You make choices, now live with them.


Why would you think you are entitled to any reimbursement? Amazing how boomers come up with creative ways to grift. Sorry student loan forgiveness triggers some of you but you better get comfortable with it.


WAIT. Let me get your thinking figured out. You're saying you're entitled to loan forgiveness, but I've got some sort of nerve to demand retroactive reimbursement for tuition?

Your logic sucks.

First of all, I said that tongue in cheek, trying to illustrate that my asking for reimbursement is as silly as you asking for loan forgiveness. It's YOUR loan. You chose to take out the loan, so pay it back. You're the grifter.

I was the one who figured out that if I didn't want to take out loans I needed to work twice as hard as you did during your college years, because I was working and going to school. And you're calling me a grifter? WHAT?



I do ask you in all seriousness if you think that everybody who took out loans didn't work as well?
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2022 22:59     Subject: any cons in suspended student loans debt?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I mean if they're going to be forgiving your student debt they better be prepared to retroactively reimburse everyone. While some of you where whooping it up having a fun college experience, some of us had our nose to the grindstone going to school and working to finance the tuition. You know? You make choices, now live with them.


Why would you think you are entitled to any reimbursement? Amazing how boomers come up with creative ways to grift. Sorry student loan forgiveness triggers some of you but you better get comfortable with it.


WAIT. Let me get your thinking figured out. You're saying you're entitled to loan forgiveness, but I've got some sort of nerve to demand retroactive reimbursement for tuition?

Your logic sucks.

First of all, I said that tongue in cheek, trying to illustrate that my asking for reimbursement is as silly as you asking for loan forgiveness. It's YOUR loan. You chose to take out the loan, so pay it back. You're the grifter.

I was the one who figured out that if I didn't want to take out loans I needed to work twice as hard as you did during your college years, because I was working and going to school. And you're calling me a grifter? WHAT?

Anonymous
Post 03/15/2022 21:57     Subject: any cons in suspended student loans debt?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I mean if they're going to be forgiving your student debt they better be prepared to retroactively reimburse everyone. While some of you where whooping it up having a fun college experience, some of us had our nose to the grindstone going to school and working to finance the tuition. You know? You make choices, now live with them.


Why would you think you are entitled to any reimbursement? Amazing how boomers come up with creative ways to grift. Sorry student loan forgiveness triggers some of you but you better get comfortable with it.


I wouldn't count on it. It is not politically expedient for politicians to actually address this. So, what will happen, is you will have lots of politicians who will stump and talk about the problem, but when elected, it will be one of the first election promises to get discarded. So, you can continue to support people who talk about it, but I would guess that it will never happen.


And yet here we are over two years with zero student loan payments. You really think it makes sense to start up payments right before midterms? The democrats don't seem to think so.


It'll get delayed again by Dems with empty promises to forgive AFTER the election. When they lose and the GOP brings us back to reality, Dems will blame GOP for making dopes pay for their bloated loans.
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2022 21:57     Subject: any cons in suspended student loans debt?
Anonymous wrote:It’s hilarious all these Millennials who say stuff like “get used to it” and “it’s happening” as if by saying it forcefully enough will make it be so.

They learned it from Bernie, who never has any actual plan for how to get his proposals enacted.
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2022 21:42     Subject: any cons in suspended student loans debt?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I mean if they're going to be forgiving your student debt they better be prepared to retroactively reimburse everyone. While some of you where whooping it up having a fun college experience, some of us had our nose to the grindstone going to school and working to finance the tuition. You know? You make choices, now live with them.


Why would you think you are entitled to any reimbursement? Amazing how boomers come up with creative ways to grift. Sorry student loan forgiveness triggers some of you but you better get comfortable with it.


I wouldn't count on it. It is not politically expedient for politicians to actually address this. So, what will happen, is you will have lots of politicians who will stump and talk about the problem, but when elected, it will be one of the first election promises to get discarded. So, you can continue to support people who talk about it, but I would guess that it will never happen.


And yet here we are over two years with zero student loan payments. You really think it makes sense to start up payments right before midterms? The democrats don't seem to think so.
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2022 21:36     Subject: any cons in suspended student loans debt?
I don’t know anyone IRL who favors this, except young people with stupid amounts of loans. I don’t think it’s as popular as millennials think it is.
Anonymous
Post 03/15/2022 21:31     Subject: any cons in suspended student loans debt?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I mean if they're going to be forgiving your student debt they better be prepared to retroactively reimburse everyone. While some of you where whooping it up having a fun college experience, some of us had our nose to the grindstone going to school and working to finance the tuition. You know? You make choices, now live with them.


Why would you think you are entitled to any reimbursement? Amazing how boomers come up with creative ways to grift. Sorry student loan forgiveness triggers some of you but you better get comfortable with it.


I wouldn't count on it. It is not politically expedient for politicians to actually address this. So, what will happen, is you will have lots of politicians who will stump and talk about the problem, but when elected, it will be one of the first election promises to get discarded. So, you can continue to support people who talk about it, but I would guess that it will never happen.