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Anonymous wrote:The woman has zero stability or commitment in her life. She will likely live single, in poverty. Many men are not signing up to be stepfathers anymore, it's a bum deal. I feel sorry for those kids.

Why do you believe locking down a man in a legal contract is the end all be all of stability and commitment?

Because all of the data confirms this. You wanting to be a contrarian doesn't change the facts.

Okay so, according to you, all single mothers have no stability or commitment?

DP. I’m sorry, you have got to be one of the stupidest people alive. Truly. Aside from the lady this post is about.

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Anonymous wrote:They do it the same way men with newborns date. Not that difficult.

I had men pursue me while I was pregnant, and I was ready to have sex again within a couple days of having a baby. Waited a couple weeks before I gave in. Helped a TON with the PPD.

Sex or being pursued helped?

Sex. I’m married so didn’t care about being pursued. But there were definitely men who were interested. Had I been single and gone 9 months without sex, yea, I’d be itching to get back to it.

Sex with your husband with a newborn is different than a random dude.

How so?

I don’t really see the difference between dating and having sex when you have a newborn vs having an older child. And no one would bat an eye if it were a man dating with a newborn.

NP. I would bat an eye. I think it’s reasonable to expect that you’re pretty much entirely devoted to your child’s well-being for the first year of their life. It’s hard for me to comprehend how dating would even factor in.

IMO, this is why Americans have such high marital dissatisfaction and divorce rates. A lot of moms completely and exclusively devote themselves to childcare, and no, it doesn't stop after the first year. It's important to take time for yourselves, go back to exercising, go on dates with your partners, have sex with them - mom with older kids here.

Taking self-care breaks is different from having unprotected sex with a stranger 7 weeks postpartum, exposing yourself to venereal disease, sharing aerosolized breath and bodily fluids with a unvaccinated stranger during a global pandemic and bringing Covid home to a newborn, and immediately delivering two other siblings in the same year - potentially stunting the first child's development and growth with one parent's attention and financial resources divided between three within the first twelve months.

There is nothing defensible about this.

Lol, catastrophize much? Unclench memaw.

Well considering she got pregnant....with twins....that seems pretty catastrophic to me.

Meh. I knew a couple who needed IVF and had twins. They were told they could never get pregnant on their own so they didn’t use protection. Ended up pregnant with a second set of twins a few weeks later. Two sets of twins a year apart. Everyone survived.

2 adults, 2 incomes to 4 children under 1 is better than 1 adult, no income to 3 children under 1.

Except it’s 3 adults, 3 incomes - mom and the fathers - for 3 children. Which actually works out better than 2 adults with 4 kids.

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Anonymous wrote:The woman has zero stability or commitment in her life. She will likely live single, in poverty. Many men are not signing up to be stepfathers anymore, it's a bum deal. I feel sorry for those kids.

Why do you believe locking down a man in a legal contract is the end all be all of stability and commitment?

Because all of the data confirms this. You wanting to be a contrarian doesn't change the facts.

Okay so, according to you, all single mothers have no stability or commitment?

Not according to me, according to the vast majority of studies on the matter for the last 100 years. Again, you can have your own opinion on this but the data is quite clear that two parent households are vastly more stable and provide for better long term outcomes for children.

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Anonymous wrote:The woman has zero stability or commitment in her life. She will likely live single, in poverty. Many men are not signing up to be stepfathers anymore, it's a bum deal. I feel sorry for those kids.

Why do you believe locking down a man in a legal contract is the end all be all of stability and commitment?

Because all of the data confirms this. You wanting to be a contrarian doesn't change the facts.

Okay so, according to you, all single mothers have no stability or commitment?

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Anonymous wrote:They do it the same way men with newborns date. Not that difficult.

I had men pursue me while I was pregnant, and I was ready to have sex again within a couple days of having a baby. Waited a couple weeks before I gave in. Helped a TON with the PPD.

Sex or being pursued helped?

Sex. I’m married so didn’t care about being pursued. But there were definitely men who were interested. Had I been single and gone 9 months without sex, yea, I’d be itching to get back to it.

Sex with your husband with a newborn is different than a random dude.

How so?

I don’t really see the difference between dating and having sex when you have a newborn vs having an older child. And no one would bat an eye if it were a man dating with a newborn.

NP. I would bat an eye. I think it’s reasonable to expect that you’re pretty much entirely devoted to your child’s well-being for the first year of their life. It’s hard for me to comprehend how dating would even factor in.

IMO, this is why Americans have such high marital dissatisfaction and divorce rates. A lot of moms completely and exclusively devote themselves to childcare, and no, it doesn't stop after the first year. It's important to take time for yourselves, go back to exercising, go on dates with your partners, have sex with them - mom with older kids here.

Taking self-care breaks is different from having unprotected sex with a stranger 7 weeks postpartum, exposing yourself to venereal disease, sharing aerosolized breath and bodily fluids with a unvaccinated stranger during a global pandemic and bringing Covid home to a newborn, and immediately delivering two other siblings in the same year - potentially stunting the first child's development and growth with one parent's attention and financial resources divided between three within the first twelve months.

There is nothing defensible about this.

Lol, catastrophize much? Unclench memaw.

Well considering she got pregnant....with twins....that seems pretty catastrophic to me.

Meh. I knew a couple who needed IVF and had twins. They were told they could never get pregnant on their own so they didn’t use protection. Ended up pregnant with a second set of twins a few weeks later. Two sets of twins a year apart. Everyone survived.

2 adults, 2 incomes to 4 children under 1 is better than 1 adult, no income to 3 children under 1.

How do you know she doesn’t have income? Did you just make that up?

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Anonymous wrote:The woman has zero stability or commitment in her life. She will likely live single, in poverty. Many men are not signing up to be stepfathers anymore, it's a bum deal. I feel sorry for those kids.

Why do you believe locking down a man in a legal contract is the end all be all of stability and commitment?

Because all of the data confirms this. You wanting to be a contrarian doesn't change the facts.

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Anonymous wrote:They do it the same way men with newborns date. Not that difficult.

I had men pursue me while I was pregnant, and I was ready to have sex again within a couple days of having a baby. Waited a couple weeks before I gave in. Helped a TON with the PPD.

Sex or being pursued helped?

Sex. I’m married so didn’t care about being pursued. But there were definitely men who were interested. Had I been single and gone 9 months without sex, yea, I’d be itching to get back to it.

Sex with your husband with a newborn is different than a random dude.

How so?

I don’t really see the difference between dating and having sex when you have a newborn vs having an older child. And no one would bat an eye if it were a man dating with a newborn.

NP. I would bat an eye. I think it’s reasonable to expect that you’re pretty much entirely devoted to your child’s well-being for the first year of their life. It’s hard for me to comprehend how dating would even factor in.

IMO, this is why Americans have such high marital dissatisfaction and divorce rates. A lot of moms completely and exclusively devote themselves to childcare, and no, it doesn't stop after the first year. It's important to take time for yourselves, go back to exercising, go on dates with your partners, have sex with them - mom with older kids here.

Taking self-care breaks is different from having unprotected sex with a stranger 7 weeks postpartum, exposing yourself to venereal disease, sharing aerosolized breath and bodily fluids with a unvaccinated stranger during a global pandemic and bringing Covid home to a newborn, and immediately delivering two other siblings in the same year - potentially stunting the first child's development and growth with one parent's attention and financial resources divided between three within the first twelve months.

There is nothing defensible about this.

Lol, catastrophize much? Unclench memaw.

Well considering she got pregnant....with twins....that seems pretty catastrophic to me.

Meh. I knew a couple who needed IVF and had twins. They were told they could never get pregnant on their own so they didn’t use protection. Ended up pregnant with a second set of twins a few weeks later. Two sets of twins a year apart. Everyone survived.

2 adults, 2 incomes to 4 children under 1 is better than 1 adult, no income to 3 children under 1.

Anonymous wrote:The woman has zero stability or commitment in her life. She will likely live single, in poverty. Many men are not signing up to be stepfathers anymore, it's a bum deal. I feel sorry for those kids.

Why do you believe locking down a man in a legal contract is the end all be all of stability and commitment?

Anonymous wrote:The woman has zero stability or commitment in her life. She will likely live single, in poverty. Many men are not signing up to be stepfathers anymore, it's a bum deal. I feel sorry for those kids.

Oh but according to all of these posters it's fine! Free love! As long as there mom is happy and getting some that's all the kids need.

The woman has zero stability or commitment in her life. She will likely live single, in poverty. Many men are not signing up to be stepfathers anymore, it's a bum deal. I feel sorry for those kids.

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Anonymous wrote:They do it the same way men with newborns date. Not that difficult.

I had men pursue me while I was pregnant, and I was ready to have sex again within a couple days of having a baby. Waited a couple weeks before I gave in. Helped a TON with the PPD.

Sex or being pursued helped?

Sex. I’m married so didn’t care about being pursued. But there were definitely men who were interested. Had I been single and gone 9 months without sex, yea, I’d be itching to get back to it.

Sex with your husband with a newborn is different than a random dude.

How so?

I don’t really see the difference between dating and having sex when you have a newborn vs having an older child. And no one would bat an eye if it were a man dating with a newborn.

NP. I would bat an eye. I think it’s reasonable to expect that you’re pretty much entirely devoted to your child’s well-being for the first year of their life. It’s hard for me to comprehend how dating would even factor in.

IMO, this is why Americans have such high marital dissatisfaction and divorce rates. A lot of moms completely and exclusively devote themselves to childcare, and no, it doesn't stop after the first year. It's important to take time for yourselves, go back to exercising, go on dates with your partners, have sex with them - mom with older kids here.

Taking self-care breaks is different from having unprotected sex with a stranger 7 weeks postpartum, exposing yourself to venereal disease, sharing aerosolized breath and bodily fluids with a unvaccinated stranger during a global pandemic and bringing Covid home to a newborn, and immediately delivering two other siblings in the same year - potentially stunting the first child's development and growth with one parent's attention and financial resources divided between three within the first twelve months.

There is nothing defensible about this.

Lol, catastrophize much? Unclench memaw.

Well considering she got pregnant....with twins....that seems pretty catastrophic to me.

Meh. I knew a couple who needed IVF and had twins. They were told they could never get pregnant on their own so they didn’t use protection. Ended up pregnant with a second set of twins a few weeks later. Two sets of twins a year apart. Everyone survived.

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Anonymous wrote:They do it the same way men with newborns date. Not that difficult.

I had men pursue me while I was pregnant, and I was ready to have sex again within a couple days of having a baby. Waited a couple weeks before I gave in. Helped a TON with the PPD.

Sex or being pursued helped?

Sex. I’m married so didn’t care about being pursued. But there were definitely men who were interested. Had I been single and gone 9 months without sex, yea, I’d be itching to get back to it.

Sex with your husband with a newborn is different than a random dude.

How so?

I don’t really see the difference between dating and having sex when you have a newborn vs having an older child. And no one would bat an eye if it were a man dating with a newborn.

NP. I would bat an eye. I think it’s reasonable to expect that you’re pretty much entirely devoted to your child’s well-being for the first year of their life. It’s hard for me to comprehend how dating would even factor in.

IMO, this is why Americans have such high marital dissatisfaction and divorce rates. A lot of moms completely and exclusively devote themselves to childcare, and no, it doesn't stop after the first year. It's important to take time for yourselves, go back to exercising, go on dates with your partners, have sex with them - mom with older kids here.

Taking self-care breaks is different from having unprotected sex with a stranger 7 weeks postpartum, exposing yourself to venereal disease, sharing aerosolized breath and bodily fluids with a unvaccinated stranger during a global pandemic and bringing Covid home to a newborn, and immediately delivering two other siblings in the same year - potentially stunting the first child's development and growth with one parent's attention and financial resources divided between three within the first twelve months.

There is nothing defensible about this.

Tons of women have unprotected sex with their husbands 7 weeks postpartum, which can also result in getting pregnant or STDs since *many* men cheat while their wives are pregnant. The risk of pregnancy and STDS doesn’t go away just because someone is married. And the attention/financial problems aren’t just a problem for unmarried women, those problems would be present with a married couple that got pregnant right away. Which happens all the time, my H and his sibling were born less than a year apart. There are way way WAY more married women with children born within the same year than there are unmarried women.

Be honest, your outrage is because she’s an unmarried mother having sex. All the issues you present occur in married couples yet you’re not ranting about them.

How will the three children be raised and turn out 20 years from now?

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Anonymous wrote:They do it the same way men with newborns date. Not that difficult.

I had men pursue me while I was pregnant, and I was ready to have sex again within a couple days of having a baby. Waited a couple weeks before I gave in. Helped a TON with the PPD.

Sex or being pursued helped?

Sex. I’m married so didn’t care about being pursued. But there were definitely men who were interested. Had I been single and gone 9 months without sex, yea, I’d be itching to get back to it.

Sex with your husband with a newborn is different than a random dude.

How so?

I don’t really see the difference between dating and having sex when you have a newborn vs having an older child. And no one would bat an eye if it were a man dating with a newborn.

NP. I would bat an eye. I think it’s reasonable to expect that you’re pretty much entirely devoted to your child’s well-being for the first year of their life. It’s hard for me to comprehend how dating would even factor in.

IMO, this is why Americans have such high marital dissatisfaction and divorce rates. A lot of moms completely and exclusively devote themselves to childcare, and no, it doesn't stop after the first year. It's important to take time for yourselves, go back to exercising, go on dates with your partners, have sex with them - mom with older kids here.

Taking self-care breaks is different from having unprotected sex with a stranger 7 weeks postpartum, exposing yourself to venereal disease, sharing aerosolized breath and bodily fluids with a unvaccinated stranger during a global pandemic and bringing Covid home to a newborn, and immediately delivering two other siblings in the same year - potentially stunting the first child's development and growth with one parent's attention and financial resources divided between three within the first twelve months.

There is nothing defensible about this.

Lol, catastrophize much? Unclench memaw.

Well considering she got pregnant....with twins....that seems pretty catastrophic to me.

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Anonymous wrote:They do it the same way men with newborns date. Not that difficult.

I had men pursue me while I was pregnant, and I was ready to have sex again within a couple days of having a baby. Waited a couple weeks before I gave in. Helped a TON with the PPD.

Sex or being pursued helped?

Sex. I’m married so didn’t care about being pursued. But there were definitely men who were interested. Had I been single and gone 9 months without sex, yea, I’d be itching to get back to it.

Sex with your husband with a newborn is different than a random dude.

How so?

I don’t really see the difference between dating and having sex when you have a newborn vs having an older child. And no one would bat an eye if it were a man dating with a newborn.

NP. I would bat an eye. I think it’s reasonable to expect that you’re pretty much entirely devoted to your child’s well-being for the first year of their life. It’s hard for me to comprehend how dating would even factor in.

IMO, this is why Americans have such high marital dissatisfaction and divorce rates. A lot of moms completely and exclusively devote themselves to childcare, and no, it doesn't stop after the first year. It's important to take time for yourselves, go back to exercising, go on dates with your partners, have sex with them - mom with older kids here.

Taking self-care breaks is different from having unprotected sex with a stranger 7 weeks postpartum, exposing yourself to venereal disease, sharing aerosolized breath and bodily fluids with a unvaccinated stranger during a global pandemic and bringing Covid home to a newborn, and immediately delivering two other siblings in the same year - potentially stunting the first child's development and growth with one parent's attention and financial resources divided between three within the first twelve months.

There is nothing defensible about this.

Lol, catastrophize much? Unclench memaw.