Anonymous wrote:I agree it was all mostly terrible, but I liked Lenny Bruce's speech to Midge on stage at Carnegie Hall.

Although, Midge saying no opening acts to the extent that she will turn down opening for Tony Bennett is just so absurd. Just beyond spoiled and entitled, you have to hate the character at that point.

I think we're supposed to realize - when Midge realizes - that her turning this down is because she's still so shocked and battered by what happened with Shy Baldwin. That really threw her, and this whole season she's been sort of in denial about what happened - but has been making terrible choices because of it. Lenny's speech is supposed to force her to face what happened, and actually move on in a smart way.

Anonymous wrote:This last episode was really terrible. Examples:

The best friend saying she’d just pat people in the hospital corridor

Abe saying he heard a death rattle when he really dropped his keys

Mei saying she went to yankee stadium instead of the hospital.

Why wouldn’t joel be with shirley the night of his dad’s heat attack when he thinks he caused it?

The scene where Susie keeps cursing when the receptionist’s kids are running around the lobby

Mei, a woman in medical school, can’t understand why her boyfriend’s or husband’s kids would be visiting and bathing at their home?

When the phone repairman is there and the secretary asks Susie if the building has ever been somewhere else? Omg

I don't think Mei couldn't understand - it's just, she hadn't thought this through yet and was panicking at the idea of this actually happening. She and Joel have had a very sort of contained relationship - they haven't joined their lives up with those of their people. She's still interviewing for jobs in Chicago! This was her being sort of forced to confront what this is going to mean in a day to day life sort of way, if she and Joel get married. I don't think it's what she wants - not sure how they are going to do this.

I agree it was all mostly terrible, but I liked Lenny Bruce's speech to Midge on stage at Carnegie Hall.

Although, Midge saying no opening acts to the extent that she will turn down opening for Tony Bennett is just so absurd. Just beyond spoiled and entitled, you have to hate the character at that point.

Anonymous wrote:This last episode was really terrible. Examples:

The best friend saying she’d just pat people in the hospital corridor

Abe saying he heard a death rattle when he really dropped his keys

Mei saying she went to yankee stadium instead of the hospital.

Why wouldn’t joel be with shirley the night of his dad’s heat attack when he thinks he caused it?

The scene where Susie keeps cursing when the receptionist’s kids are running around the lobby

Mei, a woman in medical school, can’t understand why her boyfriend’s or husband’s kids would be visiting and bathing at their home?

When the phone repairman is there and the secretary asks Susie if the building has ever been somewhere else? Omg

AGREE. Very bad.

This last episode was really terrible. Examples:

The best friend saying she’d just pat people in the hospital corridor

Abe saying he heard a death rattle when he really dropped his keys

Mei saying she went to yankee stadium instead of the hospital.

Why wouldn’t joel be with shirley the night of his dad’s heat attack when he thinks he caused it?

The scene where Susie keeps cursing when the receptionist’s kids are running around the lobby

Mei, a woman in medical school, can’t understand why her boyfriend’s or husband’s kids would be visiting and bathing at their home?

When the phone repairman is there and the secretary asks Susie if the building has ever been somewhere else? Omg

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Anonymous wrote:What is the point of her parents becoming so wacky? First Paris then living with in laws in queens now living with midge?

I find it weird and unfunny.

And yes the fourth season has fallen off even more.

Still worth watching for the clothes alone although the hats have gotten ridiculous.

Watching also because of clothes.

I think the hats were supposed to be ridiculous and somehow emblematic of how Midge isn't pursuing her career the right way. She took off her hat when Lenny Bruce gave her that come to Jesus talk in the finale - I think that was her shedding her old ways and deciding to do this right. Maybe?

Makes no sense. Imogene, the strippers, midge’s mom, etc all wore odd hats.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the point of her parents becoming so wacky? First Paris then living with in laws in queens now living with midge?

I find it weird and unfunny.

And yes the fourth season has fallen off even more.

Still worth watching for the clothes alone although the hats have gotten ridiculous.

Watching also because of clothes.

I think the hats were supposed to be ridiculous and somehow emblematic of how Midge isn't pursuing her career the right way. She took off her hat when Lenny Bruce gave her that come to Jesus talk in the finale - I think that was her shedding her old ways and deciding to do this right. Maybe?

That's a great insight. I don't know if they thought about it and did it on purpose, but I hope so!

Loved this season and last two episodes in particular.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the point of her parents becoming so wacky? First Paris then living with in laws in queens now living with midge?

I find it weird and unfunny.

And yes the fourth season has fallen off even more.

Still worth watching for the clothes alone although the hats have gotten ridiculous.

Watching also because of clothes.

I think the hats were supposed to be ridiculous and somehow emblematic of how Midge isn't pursuing her career the right way. She took off her hat when Lenny Bruce gave her that come to Jesus talk in the finale - I think that was her shedding her old ways and deciding to do this right. Maybe?

Interesting thought.

These women have a coat and hat for every day of the week, but can't afford food or a mortgage.

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Anonymous wrote:What is the point of her parents becoming so wacky? First Paris then living with in laws in queens now living with midge?

I find it weird and unfunny.

And yes the fourth season has fallen off even more.

Still worth watching for the clothes alone although the hats have gotten ridiculous.

Watching also because of clothes.

I think the hats were supposed to be ridiculous and somehow emblematic of how Midge isn't pursuing her career the right way. She took off her hat when Lenny Bruce gave her that come to Jesus talk in the finale - I think that was her shedding her old ways and deciding to do this right. Maybe?

Anonymous wrote:What is the point of her parents becoming so wacky? First Paris then living with in laws in queens now living with midge?

I find it weird and unfunny.

And yes the fourth season has fallen off even more.

Still worth watching for the clothes alone although the hats have gotten ridiculous.

Watching also because of clothes.

There were 6 plots, and none of them had anything to do with each other, there was no story arc at all to any of them. I mean, they worked really hard at this, and I don't mean that in a good way.

Disappointed. Sets and clothes are great. But, this is basically Gilmore Girls and it's just gotten really stupid. It got off to a great start in Season 1, loved it, but it's made errors going forward. The historical amalgamation of these characters is true enough, but not the dialogue. No one cursed that way, casually or on stage, and there are pat phrases in general that were not used. It ruined the whole narrative- why have so many things that were accurate- the women comedians who were getting a start then, the clothes, the culture, the set, etc., and then get the dialogue and culture wrong? Instead of rooting for Midge, we start to see that she's just bad at what she aspires to be. She's so smart in life, but so dumb professionally...that wasn't how Joan Rivers and Phyllis Diller evolved.

The matchmaker thug ladies? Right out of Gilmore Girls and it's so infantile. Come on. And why? How did this even add to the plot? It's not even a subplot.

Thumbs down and SAD. This could have been great.

It was not a good season. The plot felt all over the place yet completely stagnant. No loose ends tied up- midge doesn’t know that Susie lost her money and Joel covered for her, there was no follow up on midge and Joel getting remarried in Vegas (are they divorced again? does mei know? Not know?) no mention of Joel managing midges money like Susie asked him to at the end of season 3, among other things. No follow up on how Midge and Joel feel about each other (they exchange lingering looks when she buys back the apartment, he calls her his wife when defending her to Susie). Instead, a million new storylines and characters were introduced while doing fan fiction to all the previous characters, like shy Baldwin and sophie Lennon (what is sophie even doing on the show at this point- though Jane lynch is hilarious - the character does nothing to advance the plot. We dig into Susie’s sexuality for five seconds, only to turn right back around, and the list goes on.

While the writing is still quirky and witty, this season was all over the place.

What was the plot line this season? Midge works in a strip club and doesn’t accept any gigs? Lots of side characters do things? I am a die hard GG fans and even I’m over this show.