Anonymous
Post 02/23/2022 12:50     Subject: Re:ACPS mask policy?

Anonymous wrote:A large-scale “gold standard” controlled, randomized international study on face masks shows surgical masks *are* effective against COVID. Stop saying masks don’t work, they do.

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2021/09/surgical-masks-covid-19.html

https://egc.yale.edu/largest-study-masks-and-covid-19-demonstrates-their-effectiveness-real-world

And here’s yet another scientific study that was published last month.

https://www.ucf.edu/news/face-masks-cut-distance-airborne-pathogens-could-travel-in-half-new-study-finds/?amp


Wait, the randomized controlled trial out of Bangladesh found that cloth masks (what many kids in schools wear) do nothing. Surgical masks had a 10% impact on symptomatic cases for people 50+. Last I checked, students aren't typically over 50 and teachers, who might be, are still required to mask.

There has been no randomized controlled trial of the effectiveness of mask mandates in school.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2022 11:50     Subject: Re:ACPS mask policy?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A large-scale “gold standard” controlled, randomized international study on face masks shows surgical masks *are* effective against COVID. Stop saying masks don’t work, they do.

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2021/09/surgical-masks-covid-19.html

https://egc.yale.edu/largest-study-masks-and-covid-19-demonstrates-their-effectiveness-real-world

And here’s yet another scientific study that was published last month.

https://www.ucf.edu/news/face-masks-cut-distance-airborne-pathogens-could-travel-in-half-new-study-finds/?amp


The central Florida study simply says the distance particles travel is less (when masks are properly fitted). So, if children are still within that distance, masks are not preventing particles. That weighed with the negative impact on masking children, makes it reasonable that a parent would not want to mask their child. That parent is not a bad person. Nor is the parent who chooses to stunt the speech, language, and emotional development by masking their child because that is less bad than COVID. At least the masked child will get the behefits of seeing an unmasked children talk, smile, and read.


Until there are scientific peer-reviewed studies about the downsides for masking kids outweighing the overall benefits, these are nothing but individual anti-masker talking points. I will concede there may be a very small number of special needs kids that should be permitted to unmask with medical supporting documentation. Otherwise, I’m asking at schools generally is going to contribute to more spread of the virus.


Like this https://cognitiveresearchjournal.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s41235-022-00360-2
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2022 08:55     Subject: Re:ACPS mask policy?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A large-scale “gold standard” controlled, randomized international study on face masks shows surgical masks *are* effective against COVID. Stop saying masks don’t work, they do.

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2021/09/surgical-masks-covid-19.html

https://egc.yale.edu/largest-study-masks-and-covid-19-demonstrates-their-effectiveness-real-world

And here’s yet another scientific study that was published last month.

https://www.ucf.edu/news/face-masks-cut-distance-airborne-pathogens-could-travel-in-half-new-study-finds/?amp


The central Florida study simply says the distance particles travel is less (when masks are properly fitted). So, if children are still within that distance, masks are not preventing particles. That weighed with the negative impact on masking children, makes it reasonable that a parent would not want to mask their child. That parent is not a bad person. Nor is the parent who chooses to stunt the speech, language, and emotional development by masking their child because that is less bad than COVID. At least the masked child will get the behefits of seeing an unmasked children talk, smile, and read.


Until there are scientific peer-reviewed studies about the downsides for masking kids outweighing the overall benefits, these are nothing but individual anti-masker talking points. I will concede there may be a very small number of special needs kids that should be permitted to unmask with medical supporting documentation. Otherwise, I’m asking at schools generally is going to contribute to more spread of the virus.


Oh well. The country has reached a new phase of its response whereby masks are an optional feature.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2022 08:52     Subject: Re:ACPS mask policy?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A large-scale “gold standard” controlled, randomized international study on face masks shows surgical masks *are* effective against COVID. Stop saying masks don’t work, they do.

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2021/09/surgical-masks-covid-19.html

https://egc.yale.edu/largest-study-masks-and-covid-19-demonstrates-their-effectiveness-real-world

And here’s yet another scientific study that was published last month.

https://www.ucf.edu/news/face-masks-cut-distance-airborne-pathogens-could-travel-in-half-new-study-finds/?amp


The central Florida study simply says the distance particles travel is less (when masks are properly fitted). So, if children are still within that distance, masks are not preventing particles. That weighed with the negative impact on masking children, makes it reasonable that a parent would not want to mask their child. That parent is not a bad person. Nor is the parent who chooses to stunt the speech, language, and emotional development by masking their child because that is less bad than COVID. At least the masked child will get the behefits of seeing an unmasked children talk, smile, and read.


Until there are scientific peer-reviewed studies about the downsides for masking kids outweighing the overall benefits, these are nothing but individual anti-masker talking points. I will concede there may be a very small number of special needs kids that should be permitted to unmask with medical supporting documentation. Otherwise, I’m asking at schools generally is going to contribute to more spread of the virus.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2022 07:28     Subject: Re:ACPS mask policy?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A large-scale “gold standard” controlled, randomized international study on face masks shows surgical masks *are* effective against COVID. Stop saying masks don’t work, they do.

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2021/09/surgical-masks-covid-19.html

https://egc.yale.edu/largest-study-masks-and-covid-19-demonstrates-their-effectiveness-real-world

And here’s yet another scientific study that was published last month.

https://www.ucf.edu/news/face-masks-cut-distance-airborne-pathogens-could-travel-in-half-new-study-finds/?amp


The central Florida study simply says the distance particles travel is less (when masks are properly fitted). So, if children are still within that distance, masks are not preventing particles. That weighed with the negative impact on masking children, makes it reasonable that a parent would not want to mask their child. That parent is not a bad person. Nor is the parent who chooses to stunt the speech, language, and emotional development by masking their child because that is less bad than COVID. At least the masked child will get the behefits of seeing an unmasked children talk, smile, and read.


If masks inhibit Covid practices from circulating in an indoor settings, mask mitigate covid. Thus, all these studies SUPPORT the value of masks for covid mitigation purposes. On the plop side, the negative effects of masks you cite are merely anecdotal.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2022 06:28     Subject: Re:ACPS mask policy?

Anonymous wrote:A large-scale “gold standard” controlled, randomized international study on face masks shows surgical masks *are* effective against COVID. Stop saying masks don’t work, they do.

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2021/09/surgical-masks-covid-19.html

https://egc.yale.edu/largest-study-masks-and-covid-19-demonstrates-their-effectiveness-real-world

And here’s yet another scientific study that was published last month.

https://www.ucf.edu/news/face-masks-cut-distance-airborne-pathogens-could-travel-in-half-new-study-finds/?amp


The central Florida study simply says the distance particles travel is less (when masks are properly fitted). So, if children are still within that distance, masks are not preventing particles. That weighed with the negative impact on masking children, makes it reasonable that a parent would not want to mask their child. That parent is not a bad person. Nor is the parent who chooses to stunt the speech, language, and emotional development by masking their child because that is less bad than COVID. At least the masked child will get the behefits of seeing an unmasked children talk, smile, and read.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2022 22:45     Subject: Re:ACPS mask policy?

A large-scale “gold standard” controlled, randomized international study on face masks shows surgical masks *are* effective against COVID. Stop saying masks don’t work, they do.

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2021/09/surgical-masks-covid-19.html

https://egc.yale.edu/largest-study-masks-and-covid-19-demonstrates-their-effectiveness-real-world

And here’s yet another scientific study that was published last month.

https://www.ucf.edu/news/face-masks-cut-distance-airborne-pathogens-could-travel-in-half-new-study-finds/?amp
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2022 19:44     Subject: ACPS mask policy?

Eh, cancer kid dies. That's life.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2022 19:34     Subject: Re:ACPS mask policy?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:ACPS won't be happy until it's the last school district in the country wearing masks.


Our household fully supports that. If you read the guidance, masking should continue. Masking helps prevent the spread of the virus. That is a worthwhile cause in our minds. That you place less value on the lives of your fellow Alexandrians speaks volumes about you, and not in a good way. So mock all you want and recognize that, yes, you are being judged because of it.


Masking oneself with a properly-fitted N95 mask helps prevent the wearer from contracting the virus - that is the science. That is it. Cloth masks do nothing. KN95s affect the respiration of children when doing physical activity (so no more exercise for kids?!?!). Kids remove masks to eat lunch, to play instruments, and to play sports. Masks prevent small children from understanding emotions, they affect speech and language development, and just steal the joy of seeing smiles. Alexandrians committed to indefinite masking of children have jumped the shark.


Exactly


Like antimaksers generally, you distort the position of the unselfish reasonable people who want a deliberate process for deciding whether to wear masks in schools. The situations you cite where children are maskless actually supports the general wearing of masks while the pandemic is active to mitigate risk where possible in other classroom settings. The negative ramifications of masks for certain students can be remedied by modifying the rules / procedures for those specific settings. Finally, it is just a lie that people are advocating for universal mask wearing forever. It is true mask proponents want to follow CDC guidance and recognize that there be future situations where returning to masks would be prudent.


And you resort to arguments that a position on masking is about one’s (bad) character when science does not support masking for children - especially when weighing costs versus benefits.


Actually you are the one lying about science when you say they don’t work (yes K95s are most effective (both to protect the wearer and others (key point you missed) which is why they should be encouraged but there is no study that says that mask wearing generally does not have a positive mitigation effect (the issue is only to what degree) so yes I think it is appropriate to highlight the bad character of the antimaskers here.


+1


https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/do-masks-actually-work-the-best-studies-suggest-they-don-t/ar-AANfurl
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2022 18:12     Subject: Re:ACPS mask policy?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:ACPS won't be happy until it's the last school district in the country wearing masks.


Our household fully supports that. If you read the guidance, masking should continue. Masking helps prevent the spread of the virus. That is a worthwhile cause in our minds. That you place less value on the lives of your fellow Alexandrians speaks volumes about you, and not in a good way. So mock all you want and recognize that, yes, you are being judged because of it.


Masking oneself with a properly-fitted N95 mask helps prevent the wearer from contracting the virus - that is the science. That is it. Cloth masks do nothing. KN95s affect the respiration of children when doing physical activity (so no more exercise for kids?!?!). Kids remove masks to eat lunch, to play instruments, and to play sports. Masks prevent small children from understanding emotions, they affect speech and language development, and just steal the joy of seeing smiles. Alexandrians committed to indefinite masking of children have jumped the shark.


Exactly


Like antimaksers generally, you distort the position of the unselfish reasonable people who want a deliberate process for deciding whether to wear masks in schools. The situations you cite where children are maskless actually supports the general wearing of masks while the pandemic is active to mitigate risk where possible in other classroom settings. The negative ramifications of masks for certain students can be remedied by modifying the rules / procedures for those specific settings. Finally, it is just a lie that people are advocating for universal mask wearing forever. It is true mask proponents want to follow CDC guidance and recognize that there be future situations where returning to masks would be prudent.


And you resort to arguments that a position on masking is about one’s (bad) character when science does not support masking for children - especially when weighing costs versus benefits.


Actually you are the one lying about science when you say they don’t work (yes K95s are most effective (both to protect the wearer and others (key point you missed) which is why they should be encouraged but there is no study that says that mask wearing generally does not have a positive mitigation effect (the issue is only to what degree) so yes I think it is appropriate to highlight the bad character of the antimaskers here.


+1
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2022 09:37     Subject: Re:ACPS mask policy?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:ACPS won't be happy until it's the last school district in the country wearing masks.


Our household fully supports that. If you read the guidance, masking should continue. Masking helps prevent the spread of the virus. That is a worthwhile cause in our minds. That you place less value on the lives of your fellow Alexandrians speaks volumes about you, and not in a good way. So mock all you want and recognize that, yes, you are being judged because of it.


Masking oneself with a properly-fitted N95 mask helps prevent the wearer from contracting the virus - that is the science. That is it. Cloth masks do nothing. KN95s affect the respiration of children when doing physical activity (so no more exercise for kids?!?!). Kids remove masks to eat lunch, to play instruments, and to play sports. Masks prevent small children from understanding emotions, they affect speech and language development, and just steal the joy of seeing smiles. Alexandrians committed to indefinite masking of children have jumped the shark.


Exactly


Like antimaksers generally, you distort the position of the unselfish reasonable people who want a deliberate process for deciding whether to wear masks in schools. The situations you cite where children are maskless actually supports the general wearing of masks while the pandemic is active to mitigate risk where possible in other classroom settings. The negative ramifications of masks for certain students can be remedied by modifying the rules / procedures for those specific settings. Finally, it is just a lie that people are advocating for universal mask wearing forever. It is true mask proponents want to follow CDC guidance and recognize that there be future situations where returning to masks would be prudent.


And you resort to arguments that a position on masking is about one’s (bad) character when science does not support masking for children - especially when weighing costs versus benefits.


Actually you are the one lying about science when you say they don’t work (yes K95s are most effective (both to protect the wearer and others (key point you missed) which is why they should be encouraged but there is no study that says that mask wearing generally does not have a positive mitigation effect (the issue is only to what degree) so yes I think it is appropriate to highlight the bad character of the antimaskers here.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2022 09:22     Subject: Re:ACPS mask policy?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:ACPS won't be happy until it's the last school district in the country wearing masks.


Our household fully supports that. If you read the guidance, masking should continue. Masking helps prevent the spread of the virus. That is a worthwhile cause in our minds. That you place less value on the lives of your fellow Alexandrians speaks volumes about you, and not in a good way. So mock all you want and recognize that, yes, you are being judged because of it.


Masking oneself with a properly-fitted N95 mask helps prevent the wearer from contracting the virus - that is the science. That is it. Cloth masks do nothing. KN95s affect the respiration of children when doing physical activity (so no more exercise for kids?!?!). Kids remove masks to eat lunch, to play instruments, and to play sports. Masks prevent small children from understanding emotions, they affect speech and language development, and just steal the joy of seeing smiles. Alexandrians committed to indefinite masking of children have jumped the shark.


Exactly


Like antimaksers generally, you distort the position of the unselfish reasonable people who want a deliberate process for deciding whether to wear masks in schools. The situations you cite where children are maskless actually supports the general wearing of masks while the pandemic is active to mitigate risk where possible in other classroom settings. The negative ramifications of masks for certain students can be remedied by modifying the rules / procedures for those specific settings. Finally, it is just a lie that people are advocating for universal mask wearing forever. It is true mask proponents want to follow CDC guidance and recognize that there be future situations where returning to masks would be prudent.


And you resort to arguments that a position on masking is about one’s (bad) character when science does not support masking for children - especially when weighing costs versus benefits.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2022 08:47     Subject: Re:ACPS mask policy?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:ACPS won't be happy until it's the last school district in the country wearing masks.


Our household fully supports that. If you read the guidance, masking should continue. Masking helps prevent the spread of the virus. That is a worthwhile cause in our minds. That you place less value on the lives of your fellow Alexandrians speaks volumes about you, and not in a good way. So mock all you want and recognize that, yes, you are being judged because of it.


Masking oneself with a properly-fitted N95 mask helps prevent the wearer from contracting the virus - that is the science. That is it. Cloth masks do nothing. KN95s affect the respiration of children when doing physical activity (so no more exercise for kids?!?!). Kids remove masks to eat lunch, to play instruments, and to play sports. Masks prevent small children from understanding emotions, they affect speech and language development, and just steal the joy of seeing smiles. Alexandrians committed to indefinite masking of children have jumped the shark.


Exactly


Like antimaksers generally, you distort the position of the unselfish reasonable people who want a deliberate process for deciding whether to wear masks in schools. The situations you cite where children are maskless actually supports the general wearing of masks while the pandemic is active to mitigate risk where possible in other classroom settings. The negative ramifications of masks for certain students can be remedied by modifying the rules / procedures for those specific settings. Finally, it is just a lie that people are advocating for universal mask wearing forever. It is true mask proponents want to follow CDC guidance and recognize that there be future situations where returning to masks would be prudent.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2022 21:17     Subject: Re:ACPS mask policy?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:ACPS won't be happy until it's the last school district in the country wearing masks.


Our household fully supports that. If you read the guidance, masking should continue. Masking helps prevent the spread of the virus. That is a worthwhile cause in our minds. That you place less value on the lives of your fellow Alexandrians speaks volumes about you, and not in a good way. So mock all you want and recognize that, yes, you are being judged because of it.


Masking oneself with a properly-fitted N95 mask helps prevent the wearer from contracting the virus - that is the science. That is it. Cloth masks do nothing. KN95s affect the respiration of children when doing physical activity (so no more exercise for kids?!?!). Kids remove masks to eat lunch, to play instruments, and to play sports. Masks prevent small children from understanding emotions, they affect speech and language development, and just steal the joy of seeing smiles. Alexandrians committed to indefinite masking of children have jumped the shark.


Exactly