Anonymous wrote:This website has lists of the undergraduate schools attended for people in 12 fields. Look at them and then tell us you think HR cares about the school attended more than the individual's qualifications.....
https://lesshighschoolstress.com/law/
While you're at it, on the same site a study by the Chronicle of Higher Ed is quoted that shows employers surveyed about what factors matter when hiring new graduates placed college prestige dead last.
https://lesshighschoolstress.com/page/5/
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
For real? I think the Catholic Church is a criminal enterprise, but I would never ding a candidate based on a degree from a Catholic college or university. As the pp said, it's always about ranking candidates not ranking schools (and not descriminating on the basis of religion).
I wouldn't necessarily ding other lower ranked Catholic schools, but a student who attends ND has other options. They're making a very deliberate choice.
Congratulation on being a bigot.[/quote]
no one is being a bigot. it's a fact that ND is 82-85 percent Catholic just like BY is 99% Mormon. Do you want that or not? I don't. But others do. But to list ND alongside other non-Catholic schools is disingenuous.
Anonymous wrote:This website has lists of the undergraduate schools attended for people in 12 fields. Look at them and then tell us you think HR cares about the school attended more than the individual's qualifications.....
https://lesshighschoolstress.com/law/
While you're at it, on the same site a study by the Chronicle of Higher Ed is quoted that shows employers surveyed about what factors matter when hiring new graduates placed college prestige dead last.
https://lesshighschoolstress.com/page/5/
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I agree with the posters who thoink it would be pointless to rank them. if you are going to, why not do it by Test scores?
School 75% SAT
ND 1550
Colby 1510
Colgate 1510
BU 1500
UVA 1500
BC 1490
Berkley 1490
Tulane 1490
UMD 1460
Villanova 1460
Fordham 1430
UC is doing away with considering the SAT. Berkeley probably won't even be reporting it in future Common Data sets.
And Colgate and Colby have been test optional, which makes the scores higher. Dumb way to rank.
Anonymous wrote:Tier 1: Berkeley, Notre Dame, UVA
Tier 2: BC, Colby, Tulane
Tier 3: BU, UMD
Tier 4: Colgate, Fordham, Villanova
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I agree with the posters who thoink it would be pointless to rank them. if you are going to, why not do it by Test scores?
School 75% SAT
ND 1550
Colby 1510
Colgate 1510
BU 1500
UVA 1500
BC 1490
Berkley 1490
Tulane 1490
UMD 1460
Villanova 1460
Fordham 1430
UC is doing away with considering the SAT. Berkeley probably won't even be reporting it in future Common Data sets.
And Colgate and Colby have been test optional, which makes the scores higher. Dumb way to rank.
Every school was optional, and most of them filled 25-30% with TO kids, so proportionately it's still the same result.
All of the "rankings" in this thread are dumb, but this one gets special stupidity points for lining up schools in order of their ~93rd %-tile (i.e., the 75th %-tile among the score submitters, which obviously is a small, self-selected group) scores on an optional test. Congrats. Or something.
Anonymous wrote:NO way is ND or UVA on the same tier as Cal. Cal is a major, internationally recognized research university. Notre Dame is an amazing regional school with fantastic community but its not the same, sorry. UVA is a solid regional/national university but not on same scale.
Every other school listed is niche or local, so it would depend on your personal preference.
Tulane is popular and has a fun factor for kids these days, so that might raise it above its academics, which are mediocre.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I agree with the posters who thoink it would be pointless to rank them. if you are going to, why not do it by Test scores?
School 75% SAT
ND 1550
Colby 1510
Colgate 1510
BU 1500
UVA 1500
BC 1490
Berkley 1490
Tulane 1490
UMD 1460
Villanova 1460
Fordham 1430
UC is doing away with considering the SAT. Berkeley probably won't even be reporting it in future Common Data sets.
And Colgate and Colby have been test optional, which makes the scores higher. Dumb way to rank.
Every school was optional, and most of them filled 25-30% with TO kids, so proportionately it's still the same result.
All of the "rankings" in this thread are dumb, but this one gets special stupidity points for lining up schools in order of their ~93rd %-tile (i.e., the 75th %-tile among the score submitters, which obviously is a small, self-selected group) scores on an optional test. Congrats. Or something.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I agree with the posters who thoink it would be pointless to rank them. if you are going to, why not do it by Test scores?
School 75% SAT
ND 1550
Colby 1510
Colgate 1510
BU 1500
UVA 1500
BC 1490
Berkley 1490
Tulane 1490
UMD 1460
Villanova 1460
Fordham 1430
UC is doing away with considering the SAT. Berkeley probably won't even be reporting it in future Common Data sets.
And Colgate and Colby have been test optional, which makes the scores higher. Dumb way to rank.
Every school was optional, and most of them filled 25-30% with TO kids, so proportionately it's still the same result.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I agree with the posters who thoink it would be pointless to rank them. if you are going to, why not do it by Test scores?
School 75% SAT
ND 1550
Colby 1510
Colgate 1510
BU 1500
UVA 1500
BC 1490
Berkley 1490
Tulane 1490
UMD 1460
Villanova 1460
Fordham 1430
UC is doing away with considering the SAT. Berkeley probably won't even be reporting it in future Common Data sets.
And Colgate and Colby have been test optional, which makes the scores higher. Dumb way to rank.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I agree with the posters who thoink it would be pointless to rank them. if you are going to, why not do it by Test scores?
School 75% SAT
ND 1550
Colby 1510
Colgate 1510
BU 1500
UVA 1500
BC 1490
Berkley 1490
Tulane 1490
UMD 1460
Villanova 1460
Fordham 1430
UC is doing away with considering the SAT. Berkeley probably won't even be reporting it in future Common Data sets.
Anonymous wrote:
For real? I think the Catholic Church is a criminal enterprise, but I would never ding a candidate based on a degree from a Catholic college or university. As the pp said, it's always about ranking candidates not ranking schools (and not descriminating on the basis of religion).
I wouldn't necessarily ding other lower ranked Catholic schools, but a student who attends ND has other options. They're making a very deliberate choice.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Depends little bit on the major, but in general;
Notre Dame (T20 school with 6th or 7th biggest endowment)
Berkeley (go here if engineering or CS)
UVA (go here if Virginian and money matters)
Boston College
Boston Univeristy
Tulane
Colby
UMCP
Vilanova
Colgate
Fordham
If accepted to both
Notre Dame vs UVA
79% choose Notre Dame. 95% would probably choose Notre Dame if cost is same.
https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Notre+Dame&with=University+of+Virginia#box2
Notre Dame vs Berkeley
60% choose Notre Daem. proabaly 80% if cost is same, 20% might be CS/engineering for Berkeley.
https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Notre+Dame&with=University+of+California%2C+Berkeley
UVA is clearly a step down from Notre Dame.
Notre Dame is ranked higher and studetns clearly favor it over Berkeley or UVA.
? That really wasn't the question though. Which grad are firms more likely to hire. I'd say in this area Uva. maybe, depends on the major of course.
Do you really think UVA grads have better chance to get hired than ND??
That is an weired imagination.
Here's a source for the employment by the best finance firms in the world.
https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/ib-target-schools
Because everyone and anyone wants to work in finance. Pfffft