How was she wrong? Judaism is not a race.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone help me understand? One of my friends who has a Jewish background says that Jewish is not a race or ethnicity it's a religion. I told her I thought it was different, but I am not so I'll go with whatever she says. Why do some people say this? I don't understand.

It’s both and I think anyone sane acknowledges that.

+1 Whoopi is an utter moron.

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Anonymous wrote:When we assess the Holocaust we have to consider the Nazi ideology that was behind it - not what people you run into today think or what the standards of America in 2022 are.

THIS x1000. Regardless of whether being Jewish is a race, the Nazis viewed it as a race. https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/victims-of-the-nazi-era-nazi-racial-ideology

It was racially motivated genocide. It was about race.

Remember--race is a construct. The Nazis constructed a Jewish race just as America racism constructs a black race (see Caste by Isabel Wilkerson).

See the following in the link:

"While it classified Jews as the priority “enemy,” the Nazi ideological concept of race targeted other groups for persecution, imprisonment, and annihilation. These groups included Roma (Gypsies), people with disabilities, Poles, Soviet prisoners of war, and Afro-Germans. The Nazis also identified political dissidents, Jehovah’s Witnesses, homosexuals, and so-called asocials as enemies and security risks either because they consciously opposed the Nazi regime or some aspect of their behavior did not fit Nazi perceptions of social norms."

It was about Race--the Nazi version of "Race".

Anonymous wrote:When we assess the Holocaust we have to consider the Nazi ideology that was behind it - not what people you run into today think or what the standards of America in 2022 are.

THIS x1000. Regardless of whether being Jewish is a race, the Nazis viewed it as a race. https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/victims-of-the-nazi-era-nazi-racial-ideology

It was racially motivated genocide. It was about race.

Remember--race is a construct. The Nazis constructed a Jewish race just as America racism constructs a black race (see Caste by Isabel Wilkerson).

Anonymous wrote:I think her apology is genuine. She admitted she was wrong. I hope she’ll do better.

I believe people can makes mistakes and learn and grow and change.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone help me understand? One of my friends who has a Jewish background says that Jewish is not a race or ethnicity it's a religion. I told her I thought it was different, but I am not so I'll go with whatever she says. Why do some people say this? I don't understand.

It’s both and I think anyone sane acknowledges that.

I agree but everyone has a different perspective.

I guess I'll leave it to science. Do DNA tests detect Buddist, Christian, Muslim, etc.? Do they detect Jewish ancestry? I think Judaism is more than just a belife system or even a culture.

I think her apology is genuine. She admitted she was wrong. I hope she’ll do better.

To the neo-Nazis - Jews are not white. For the progressives, they fall for the old trope that Jews are so privileged because it fits their narrative - but yet also say Jesus was brown-skinned when it fits their narrative, too and somehow fail to recognize that disconnect.

I do say I'm white on forms, but if it asked if I was Jewish - that is what I would respond instead. I think I said that on the latest census because there was an option for that.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can someone help me understand? One of my friends who has a Jewish background says that Jewish is not a race or ethnicity it's a religion. I told her I thought it was different, but I am not so I'll go with whatever she says. Why do some people say this? I don't understand.

It’s both and I think anyone sane acknowledges that.

See that's what I thought. But once a woman was socializing with us and referenced my friend being Jewish and she was so offended. But I am confused because her dad is Jewish but she felt like it's racist because no one can "look" Jewish. I've also heard a few others with this background say this...

I think it is kind of offensive to generally comment about people's looks. I think people also don't like it when they say - you're so exotic, what are you, etc. My DNA test says I'm Jewish so there's not really a debate that it's an ethnicity. DNA tests don't identify religion.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone help me understand? One of my friends who has a Jewish background says that Jewish is not a race or ethnicity it's a religion. I told her I thought it was different, but I am not so I'll go with whatever she says. Why do some people say this? I don't understand.

Correct. It's a religion.

But I'm not a Nazi in their psychopath world

It's not ONLY a religion. It's also an ethnicity.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone help me understand? One of my friends who has a Jewish background says that Jewish is not a race or ethnicity it's a religion. I told her I thought it was different, but I am not so I'll go with whatever she says. Why do some people say this? I don't understand.

It’s both and I think anyone sane acknowledges that.

See that's what I thought. But once a woman was socializing with us and referenced my friend being Jewish and she was so offended. But I am confused because her dad is Jewish but she felt like it's racist because no one can "look" Jewish. I've also heard a few others with this background say this...

Anonymous wrote:Can someone help me understand? One of my friends who has a Jewish background says that Jewish is not a race or ethnicity it's a religion. I told her I thought it was different, but I am not so I'll go with whatever she says. Why do some people say this? I don't understand.

Correct. It's a religion.

But I'm not a Nazi in their psychopath world

Anonymous wrote:I agree with her, what is the confusion?

There are black Jews, Asian Jews.

Also Nazis targeted all those they considered inferior (such as gays, the disabled).

exactly. People are intentionally and willfully misconstruing what she said.

A lot of people are committed to finding something to be angry and enraged about.

When we assess the Holocaust we have to consider the Nazi ideology that was behind it - not what people you run into today think or what the standards of America in 2022 are.

Anonymous wrote:The Nazis didn't just kill actively practicing religious Jewish people. They also killed people who had Jewish grandparents, even if they ir their parents had converted. And again, the Nazis didn't attempt to.wipe out the Jewish religion, converting or moving away from Judaism didn't save people. It was an extermination of people.

It definitely was teated like a race then. The propaganda again didn't treat the religion as althe issue, it attacked the Jewish people as less than human.

So saying the Nazis weren't about race ignores their focus in blood purity and rhe way people were exterminated for ancestry.

Don't get me wrong I'm also sure the Nazis would have killed anyone who converted as well, but their extermination campaign was focused on blood and a people.

I agree with this.

I am not Jewish and do not know if Jews are a race or not. I do know that Hitler considered them a race and killed them for being Jewish.

And, to PP who mentioned that others were also killed. That is true. But, Hitler did not send anywhere near the numbers of others than he did the Jewish people.

Whoopi clearly looks at everything through a racial lens. As long as people do this, there will be racism. Skin color should mean nothing--I haven't heard of anyone who bleeds black blood, white blood, or yellow blood. Pretty sure everyone's blood is red. Until we all accept that, and treat others accordingly, we will have these issues.

A school board member in Fairfax County just referred to the Superintendent as "too dumb and too white." Is that racist? Sounds racist to me. Yet has received no coverage from the Washington Post. What if another SB member had referred to others that are not white as "too ___"? All of us need to drop the racism. Whoopi is a very wealthy woman who has succeeded in this country. She needs to acknowledge that. That doesn't[ mean she cannot be concerned about racism, but she needs to acknowledge that racism comes in many colors.