My brother ended up at Ferrum (which is in the sticks). This was the late 2000s.

Anonymous wrote:Ok, to the public school parents who wonder why we are spending money on private schools, we get your point.

Can we now please get back to the topic? What happens to 3.0 and below Big 3 kids?

There are SLACs were you can get in full pay. Not good ones, but respectable enough

They are full pay at trinity, Elon, tcu etc

Ok, to the public school parents who wonder why we are spending money on private schools, we get your point.

Can we now please get back to the topic? What happens to 3.0 and below Big 3 kids?

Tulane is not a tiny slac. Go to the upper school counselors offices and check out the pennants yourself of what a tiny slac is. And it’s way below Tulane (which is a large college and grad school), and even Pomona (somewhat small but v liberal and prestigious).

Anonymous wrote:I know DCUM people like to put down Tulane, but no way is a sub-3.0 GPA getting into Tulane.

I decided to test this by searching the college results sub-Reddit. Not a lot of data on sub-3.0 but from what was posted it seems that they look for at least a 3.0 minimum. 3.0-3.3 UW however seemed like decent odds, particularly with 1400+ SAT.

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Anonymous wrote:At most “good” public and private schools, the top 10% gets into the very competitive, elite colleges. By “good” meaning the schools like the W high schools and private schools like Sidwell. The only private and public schools that send a greater percentage to kids that are not top 10%, are magnets like TJ, usually the top 20%, and top private schools like Andover, top 20%. DC private schools including the Big3 are nowhere on par.

So kids with sub 3.0 gpas from the Big 3 go to the same colleges that the other 90% go including the 90% from public.

My older was in a big 3 and graduated a few years ago. More than half the kids in the grade went to IVY/NESCAC/Stanford/Northwestern/Chicago/topSLAC.

The rest went to places like NYU, Tulane and that tier. There were a handful that went to schools that some here would scoff at, smaller PA/OH SLACs but they were full ride athletes. There literally wasn't a school on the grade-wide list that I would shake my head and say "why go to 'big3' and end up there" - not a single one.

You need to specify what is “a few years ago.” It likely isn’t in the past five years. And if you account for SES, the sub 3.0 kids from the Big 3 go to the same colleges as the sub 3.0 kids from the W pyramid.

So you're telling me that the sub 3.0 kids from Whitman are going to Tulane, Richmond, Grinnell?

The sub 3.0 kids from the big 3 aren’t going there either nowadays

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And the big 3 college counselors aren’t equipped to maximize anything beyond liberal arts majors at tiny slacs for full ride prices.

Are big 3 counselors getting people full rides?

PP means paying full price. Not a full ride scholarship.

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Anonymous wrote:At most “good” public and private schools, the top 10% gets into the very competitive, elite colleges. By “good” meaning the schools like the W high schools and private schools like Sidwell. The only private and public schools that send a greater percentage to kids that are not top 10%, are magnets like TJ, usually the top 20%, and top private schools like Andover, top 20%. DC private schools including the Big3 are nowhere on par.

So kids with sub 3.0 gpas from the Big 3 go to the same colleges that the other 90% go including the 90% from public.

My older was in a big 3 and graduated a few years ago. More than half the kids in the grade went to IVY/NESCAC/Stanford/Northwestern/Chicago/topSLAC.

The rest went to places like NYU, Tulane and that tier. There were a handful that went to schools that some here would scoff at, smaller PA/OH SLACs but they were full ride athletes. There literally wasn't a school on the grade-wide list that I would shake my head and say "why go to 'big3' and end up there" - not a single one.

You need to specify what is “a few years ago.” It likely isn’t in the past five years. And if you account for SES, the sub 3.0 kids from the Big 3 go to the same colleges as the sub 3.0 kids from the W pyramid.

So you're telling me that the sub 3.0 kids from Whitman are going to Tulane, Richmond, Grinnell?

The sub 3.0 kids from the big 3 aren’t going there either nowadays

This.

And the big 3 college counselors aren’t equipped to maximize anything beyond liberal arts majors at tiny slacs for full ride prices.

Are big 3 counselors getting people full rides?

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Anonymous wrote:At most “good” public and private schools, the top 10% gets into the very competitive, elite colleges. By “good” meaning the schools like the W high schools and private schools like Sidwell. The only private and public schools that send a greater percentage to kids that are not top 10%, are magnets like TJ, usually the top 20%, and top private schools like Andover, top 20%. DC private schools including the Big3 are nowhere on par.

So kids with sub 3.0 gpas from the Big 3 go to the same colleges that the other 90% go including the 90% from public.

My older was in a big 3 and graduated a few years ago. More than half the kids in the grade went to IVY/NESCAC/Stanford/Northwestern/Chicago/topSLAC.

The rest went to places like NYU, Tulane and that tier. There were a handful that went to schools that some here would scoff at, smaller PA/OH SLACs but they were full ride athletes. There literally wasn't a school on the grade-wide list that I would shake my head and say "why go to 'big3' and end up there" - not a single one.

You need to specify what is “a few years ago.” It likely isn’t in the past five years. And if you account for SES, the sub 3.0 kids from the Big 3 go to the same colleges as the sub 3.0 kids from the W pyramid.

So you're telling me that the sub 3.0 kids from Whitman are going to Tulane, Richmond, Grinnell?

The sub 3.0 kids from the big 3 aren’t going there either nowadays

This.

And the big 3 college counselors aren’t equipped to maximize anything beyond liberal arts majors at tiny slacs for full ride prices.

I know DCUM people like to put down Tulane, but no way is a sub-3.0 GPA getting into Tulane.

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Anonymous wrote:At most “good” public and private schools, the top 10% gets into the very competitive, elite colleges. By “good” meaning the schools like the W high schools and private schools like Sidwell. The only private and public schools that send a greater percentage to kids that are not top 10%, are magnets like TJ, usually the top 20%, and top private schools like Andover, top 20%. DC private schools including the Big3 are nowhere on par.

So kids with sub 3.0 gpas from the Big 3 go to the same colleges that the other 90% go including the 90% from public.

My older was in a big 3 and graduated a few years ago. More than half the kids in the grade went to IVY/NESCAC/Stanford/Northwestern/Chicago/topSLAC.

The rest went to places like NYU, Tulane and that tier. There were a handful that went to schools that some here would scoff at, smaller PA/OH SLACs but they were full ride athletes. There literally wasn't a school on the grade-wide list that I would shake my head and say "why go to 'big3' and end up there" - not a single one.

You need to specify what is “a few years ago.” It likely isn’t in the past five years. And if you account for SES, the sub 3.0 kids from the Big 3 go to the same colleges as the sub 3.0 kids from the W pyramid.

So you're telling me that the sub 3.0 kids from Whitman are going to Tulane, Richmond, Grinnell?

The sub 3.0 kids from the big 3 aren’t going there either nowadays

This.

And the big 3 college counselors aren’t equipped to maximize anything beyond liberal arts majors at tiny slacs for full ride prices.

Mine: Honor grad @ Ivy. 2.9.

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Anonymous wrote:At most “good” public and private schools, the top 10% gets into the very competitive, elite colleges. By “good” meaning the schools like the W high schools and private schools like Sidwell. The only private and public schools that send a greater percentage to kids that are not top 10%, are magnets like TJ, usually the top 20%, and top private schools like Andover, top 20%. DC private schools including the Big3 are nowhere on par.

So kids with sub 3.0 gpas from the Big 3 go to the same colleges that the other 90% go including the 90% from public.

My older was in a big 3 and graduated a few years ago. More than half the kids in the grade went to IVY/NESCAC/Stanford/Northwestern/Chicago/topSLAC.

The rest went to places like NYU, Tulane and that tier. There were a handful that went to schools that some here would scoff at, smaller PA/OH SLACs but they were full ride athletes. There literally wasn't a school on the grade-wide list that I would shake my head and say "why go to 'big3' and end up there" - not a single one.

You need to specify what is “a few years ago.” It likely isn’t in the past five years. And if you account for SES, the sub 3.0 kids from the Big 3 go to the same colleges as the sub 3.0 kids from the W pyramid.

This is due to the increase in the number of foreign students especially from China who apply to US colleges and universities. These kids are all full pay too, no financial aid for foreigners. So for an Ivy or similar, kids are competing internationally for a spot.

I thought Ivies do not give priority to full-pay kids. It would be a different story if you donate $2+ millions. What's your basis that Ivies give priority to kids from China because they are full-pay?

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Anonymous wrote:At most “good” public and private schools, the top 10% gets into the very competitive, elite colleges. By “good” meaning the schools like the W high schools and private schools like Sidwell. The only private and public schools that send a greater percentage to kids that are not top 10%, are magnets like TJ, usually the top 20%, and top private schools like Andover, top 20%. DC private schools including the Big3 are nowhere on par.

So kids with sub 3.0 gpas from the Big 3 go to the same colleges that the other 90% go including the 90% from public.

Correct. And for a fraction of the cost. Sounds like a value proposition at play here. Why do folks buy privates, hook line and sinker. Tip students will get into top schools regardless. Middle of the road is just that…

We send DS to private because: 1. We like the over the top facilities, small class size, the top academics…. basically everything 2. We have friends who either went to the school themselves and/or send their kids to the school and they raved about it. 3. We can easily afford it so why not. DS excels academically and likely would do fine anywhere but we want to send him where he enjoys school.

Our school is mostly boarding and for boarders, the tuition + fees are about the same as Princeton U and even more for foreigners, about the same as Columbia... And this is middle school. The boarders get laundry service though unlike college. The parents can send their kids to school anywhere but choose to send them here.

This is a whole other world from people arguing about value and cost of public vs private.

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Anonymous wrote:This topic isn’t genuine. Posters want you to turn down spots so their kid can take them. If you are content with public, what would you be doing here?

The public parents posting here are projecting their insecurities.

No sure I follow this statement, as it can only be the other way around. Private parents are defensive because they are spending money at a business that produces the same product as the tax paid publics. Publics aren’t insecure as they aren’t paying a dime, and sending their smart kids to the same school. Publics are just mocking because privates keep saying their product is better. Publics who have excelled aren’t buying (or paying )…

Anonymous wrote:^^^ Someone had a chip on their shoulder

Agree. Don’t know why they always try to compare to public. Insecure?

- parent of kids in both