Anonymous
Post 02/05/2022 21:24     Subject: Re:AG Miyares says Virginia colleges and universities can’t require a Covid vaccine

I am gleeful about being an MD resident and my kid can go to CS in UMD.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2022 21:22     Subject: AG Miyares says Virginia colleges and universities can’t require a Covid vaccine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a kid at a college in another state that didn't require the vaccine for anyone attending. They do require masks inside of campus buildings except when eating/drinking.

Anyway, I was worried about it and really stressed over sending him (haha, I know, I couldn't really prevent him, but you know, a mother's stress), but it was his first semester of college and he was beyond excited to start the next phase of his life. He basically told me, "listen, I'm vaccinated and I always wear a mask. Trust me to make good decisions."

It was hard but I did. I stopped stressing and worrying so much. So far, so good. I check the campus dashboard numbers from time to time and they aren't bad.

I just checked today (yesterday's numbers):

Son's school:
Active cases: 107
New positive: 17
Undergrads: 21,000

Comparing with UVA who has a vaccine mandate right now:
Active cases: 376
New cases: 51
Undergrads: 18,000

My son says he doesn't have any direct friends who are not vaccinated. He knows of some people who aren't but he just operates under the assumption that when encountering a new person, they aren't vaccinated until he finds out otherwise.


You do understand that Omicron surge is at different points in different parts of the country, right?


I’m not the pp you quoted, but I’m another pp who also has students at a school that does not require the vaccine. I’ve been following my kids’ college and UVA since August, and it’s consistently been like this (similar or lower Covid numbers.)


Why on earth would you be monitoring cases at a school your kid doesn't attend? I call bullshit.


DP

Plenty of is have been following COVID stats for various reasons.

But I get it. You can’t dispute facts, so you try to disparage the poster. Common technique on this board to stifle any opposing viewpoints.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2022 10:12     Subject: AG Miyares says Virginia colleges and universities can’t require a Covid vaccine

Anonymous wrote:Are these schools "with fewer cases" actually doing rigorous testing?

Can't count what you don't look for...


Are the schools that are mandating the vaccine doing “rigorous testing?”
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2022 09:49     Subject: AG Miyares says Virginia colleges and universities can’t require a Covid vaccine

Are these schools "with fewer cases" actually doing rigorous testing?

Can't count what you don't look for...
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2022 08:58     Subject: AG Miyares says Virginia colleges and universities can’t require a Covid vaccine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a kid at a college in another state that didn't require the vaccine for anyone attending. They do require masks inside of campus buildings except when eating/drinking.

Anyway, I was worried about it and really stressed over sending him (haha, I know, I couldn't really prevent him, but you know, a mother's stress), but it was his first semester of college and he was beyond excited to start the next phase of his life. He basically told me, "listen, I'm vaccinated and I always wear a mask. Trust me to make good decisions."

It was hard but I did. I stopped stressing and worrying so much. So far, so good. I check the campus dashboard numbers from time to time and they aren't bad.

I just checked today (yesterday's numbers):

Son's school:
Active cases: 107
New positive: 17
Undergrads: 21,000

Comparing with UVA who has a vaccine mandate right now:
Active cases: 376
New cases: 51
Undergrads: 18,000

My son says he doesn't have any direct friends who are not vaccinated. He knows of some people who aren't but he just operates under the assumption that when encountering a new person, they aren't vaccinated until he finds out otherwise.


You do understand that Omicron surge is at different points in different parts of the country, right?


I’m not the pp you quoted, but I’m another pp who also has students at a school that does not require the vaccine. I’ve been following my kids’ college and UVA since August, and it’s consistently been like this (similar or lower Covid numbers.)


DP. To pp’s point, your anecdote is meaningless if you don’t name the other school because there are a whole host of reasons why schools might see differences that don’t somehow come down to vaccine mandates = more covid (which seems to be your contention?).


He goes to WVU.

No, I don't believe that vaccine mandates = more covid at all.

I was simply offering some reassurance that hey, I have a kid who has been at college since August w/o a mandate and their numbers are on par with UVA's, which has the mandate. Would I like for WVU to have the mandate? Yes!! Do I think my kid is avoiding parties or wearing a mask while doing those activities? Of course not.

Even though there's no mandate, the school says 80% of the campus is vaccinated. Wasn't 70 or 75% the magic herd immunity number we kept hearing over the summer? If so, maybe it's herd immunity at play.



A better comparison might be Liberty University.

Look at the cumulative total of the last 10 days: https://www.liberty.edu/coronavirus/covid-19-dashboard/




Fewer than UVA! Great info!
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2022 08:56     Subject: AG Miyares says Virginia colleges and universities can’t require a Covid vaccine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a kid at a college in another state that didn't require the vaccine for anyone attending. They do require masks inside of campus buildings except when eating/drinking.

Anyway, I was worried about it and really stressed over sending him (haha, I know, I couldn't really prevent him, but you know, a mother's stress), but it was his first semester of college and he was beyond excited to start the next phase of his life. He basically told me, "listen, I'm vaccinated and I always wear a mask. Trust me to make good decisions."

It was hard but I did. I stopped stressing and worrying so much. So far, so good. I check the campus dashboard numbers from time to time and they aren't bad.

I just checked today (yesterday's numbers):

Son's school:
Active cases: 107
New positive: 17
Undergrads: 21,000

Comparing with UVA who has a vaccine mandate right now:
Active cases: 376
New cases: 51
Undergrads: 18,000

My son says he doesn't have any direct friends who are not vaccinated. He knows of some people who aren't but he just operates under the assumption that when encountering a new person, they aren't vaccinated until he finds out otherwise.


You do understand that Omicron surge is at different points in different parts of the country, right?


I’m not the pp you quoted, but I’m another pp who also has students at a school that does not require the vaccine. I’ve been following my kids’ college and UVA since August, and it’s consistently been like this (similar or lower Covid numbers.)


Why on earth would you be monitoring cases at a school your kid doesn't attend? I call bullshit.


To see if the vaccine mandates resulted in fewer cases.

You can “call” whatever you want, but facts are facts and you can look them up yourself to see that you are wrong
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2022 08:39     Subject: AG Miyares says Virginia colleges and universities can’t require a Covid vaccine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a kid at a college in another state that didn't require the vaccine for anyone attending. They do require masks inside of campus buildings except when eating/drinking.

Anyway, I was worried about it and really stressed over sending him (haha, I know, I couldn't really prevent him, but you know, a mother's stress), but it was his first semester of college and he was beyond excited to start the next phase of his life. He basically told me, "listen, I'm vaccinated and I always wear a mask. Trust me to make good decisions."

It was hard but I did. I stopped stressing and worrying so much. So far, so good. I check the campus dashboard numbers from time to time and they aren't bad.

I just checked today (yesterday's numbers):

Son's school:
Active cases: 107
New positive: 17
Undergrads: 21,000

Comparing with UVA who has a vaccine mandate right now:
Active cases: 376
New cases: 51
Undergrads: 18,000

My son says he doesn't have any direct friends who are not vaccinated. He knows of some people who aren't but he just operates under the assumption that when encountering a new person, they aren't vaccinated until he finds out otherwise.


You do understand that Omicron surge is at different points in different parts of the country, right?


I’m not the pp you quoted, but I’m another pp who also has students at a school that does not require the vaccine. I’ve been following my kids’ college and UVA since August, and it’s consistently been like this (similar or lower Covid numbers.)


DP. To pp’s point, your anecdote is meaningless if you don’t name the other school because there are a whole host of reasons why schools might see differences that don’t somehow come down to vaccine mandates = more covid (which seems to be your contention?).


He goes to WVU.

No, I don't believe that vaccine mandates = more covid at all.

I was simply offering some reassurance that hey, I have a kid who has been at college since August w/o a mandate and their numbers are on par with UVA's, which has the mandate. Would I like for WVU to have the mandate? Yes!! Do I think my kid is avoiding parties or wearing a mask while doing those activities? Of course not.

Even though there's no mandate, the school says 80% of the campus is vaccinated. Wasn't 70 or 75% the magic herd immunity number we kept hearing over the summer? If so, maybe it's herd immunity at play.



A better comparison might be Liberty University.

Look at the cumulative total of the last 10 days: https://www.liberty.edu/coronavirus/covid-19-dashboard/

Anonymous
Post 02/04/2022 08:31     Subject: AG Miyares says Virginia colleges and universities can’t require a Covid vaccine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a kid at a college in another state that didn't require the vaccine for anyone attending. They do require masks inside of campus buildings except when eating/drinking.

Anyway, I was worried about it and really stressed over sending him (haha, I know, I couldn't really prevent him, but you know, a mother's stress), but it was his first semester of college and he was beyond excited to start the next phase of his life. He basically told me, "listen, I'm vaccinated and I always wear a mask. Trust me to make good decisions."

It was hard but I did. I stopped stressing and worrying so much. So far, so good. I check the campus dashboard numbers from time to time and they aren't bad.

I just checked today (yesterday's numbers):

Son's school:
Active cases: 107
New positive: 17
Undergrads: 21,000

Comparing with UVA who has a vaccine mandate right now:
Active cases: 376
New cases: 51
Undergrads: 18,000

My son says he doesn't have any direct friends who are not vaccinated. He knows of some people who aren't but he just operates under the assumption that when encountering a new person, they aren't vaccinated until he finds out otherwise.


You do understand that Omicron surge is at different points in different parts of the country, right?


I’m not the pp you quoted, but I’m another pp who also has students at a school that does not require the vaccine. I’ve been following my kids’ college and UVA since August, and it’s consistently been like this (similar or lower Covid numbers.)


Why on earth would you be monitoring cases at a school your kid doesn't attend? I call bullshit.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2022 08:28     Subject: AG Miyares says Virginia colleges and universities can’t require a Covid vaccine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a kid at a college in another state that didn't require the vaccine for anyone attending. They do require masks inside of campus buildings except when eating/drinking.

Anyway, I was worried about it and really stressed over sending him (haha, I know, I couldn't really prevent him, but you know, a mother's stress), but it was his first semester of college and he was beyond excited to start the next phase of his life. He basically told me, "listen, I'm vaccinated and I always wear a mask. Trust me to make good decisions."

It was hard but I did. I stopped stressing and worrying so much. So far, so good. I check the campus dashboard numbers from time to time and they aren't bad.

I just checked today (yesterday's numbers):

Son's school:
Active cases: 107
New positive: 17
Undergrads: 21,000

Comparing with UVA who has a vaccine mandate right now:
Active cases: 376
New cases: 51
Undergrads: 18,000

My son says he doesn't have any direct friends who are not vaccinated. He knows of some people who aren't but he just operates under the assumption that when encountering a new person, they aren't vaccinated until he finds out otherwise.


You do understand that Omicron surge is at different points in different parts of the country, right?


I’m not the pp you quoted, but I’m another pp who also has students at a school that does not require the vaccine. I’ve been following my kids’ college and UVA since August, and it’s consistently been like this (similar or lower Covid numbers.)


DP. To pp’s point, your anecdote is meaningless if you don’t name the other school because there are a whole host of reasons why schools might see differences that don’t somehow come down to vaccine mandates = more covid (which seems to be your contention?).


I'm not the pp you quoted, but I'm the other poster who has a kid at a college that doesn't require the covid Vaccine. Here is an example--UNC--so just the next state over from VA.

on February 2 they had 24 students and 5 employees test positive (total of 29)
https://carolinatogether.unc.edu/dashboard/

UVA had 30 students and 21 employees test positive on February 2
https://coronavirus.virginia.edu/covid-tracker
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2022 00:11     Subject: AG Miyares says Virginia colleges and universities can’t require a Covid vaccine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a kid at a college in another state that didn't require the vaccine for anyone attending. They do require masks inside of campus buildings except when eating/drinking.

Anyway, I was worried about it and really stressed over sending him (haha, I know, I couldn't really prevent him, but you know, a mother's stress), but it was his first semester of college and he was beyond excited to start the next phase of his life. He basically told me, "listen, I'm vaccinated and I always wear a mask. Trust me to make good decisions."

It was hard but I did. I stopped stressing and worrying so much. So far, so good. I check the campus dashboard numbers from time to time and they aren't bad.

I just checked today (yesterday's numbers):

Son's school:
Active cases: 107
New positive: 17
Undergrads: 21,000

Comparing with UVA who has a vaccine mandate right now:
Active cases: 376
New cases: 51
Undergrads: 18,000

My son says he doesn't have any direct friends who are not vaccinated. He knows of some people who aren't but he just operates under the assumption that when encountering a new person, they aren't vaccinated until he finds out otherwise.


You do understand that Omicron surge is at different points in different parts of the country, right?


I’m not the pp you quoted, but I’m another pp who also has students at a school that does not require the vaccine. I’ve been following my kids’ college and UVA since August, and it’s consistently been like this (similar or lower Covid numbers.)


DP. To pp’s point, your anecdote is meaningless if you don’t name the other school because there are a whole host of reasons why schools might see differences that don’t somehow come down to vaccine mandates = more covid (which seems to be your contention?).


He goes to WVU.

No, I don't believe that vaccine mandates = more covid at all.

I was simply offering some reassurance that hey, I have a kid who has been at college since August w/o a mandate and their numbers are on par with UVA's, which has the mandate. Would I like for WVU to have the mandate? Yes!! Do I think my kid is avoiding parties or wearing a mask while doing those activities? Of course not.

Even though there's no mandate, the school says 80% of the campus is vaccinated. Wasn't 70 or 75% the magic herd immunity number we kept hearing over the summer? If so, maybe it's herd immunity at play.
Anonymous
Post 02/04/2022 00:05     Subject: AG Miyares says Virginia colleges and universities can’t require a Covid vaccine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a kid at a college in another state that didn't require the vaccine for anyone attending. They do require masks inside of campus buildings except when eating/drinking.

Anyway, I was worried about it and really stressed over sending him (haha, I know, I couldn't really prevent him, but you know, a mother's stress), but it was his first semester of college and he was beyond excited to start the next phase of his life. He basically told me, "listen, I'm vaccinated and I always wear a mask. Trust me to make good decisions."

It was hard but I did. I stopped stressing and worrying so much. So far, so good. I check the campus dashboard numbers from time to time and they aren't bad.

I just checked today (yesterday's numbers):

Son's school:
Active cases: 107
New positive: 17
Undergrads: 21,000

Comparing with UVA who has a vaccine mandate right now:
Active cases: 376
New cases: 51
Undergrads: 18,000

My son says he doesn't have any direct friends who are not vaccinated. He knows of some people who aren't but he just operates under the assumption that when encountering a new person, they aren't vaccinated until he finds out otherwise.


You do understand that Omicron surge is at different points in different parts of the country, right?


He goes to school out of state but not very far away. Their Omicron surge in that state lined up pretty much along with ours. The overall state is in a decline like the numbers we see in VA.

I just looked it up and his university that doesn't require the vaccine for staff or students has an 80% vaccination rate. I'm not sure if that's staff and students or just students. If it's just students, then that's less than 5k without a vaccine out of 21k. I would assume that herd immunity is doing its thing on campus. That's my only assumption when comparing a school with the mandate versus one without.
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2022 22:55     Subject: AG Miyares says Virginia colleges and universities can’t require a Covid vaccine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a kid at a college in another state that didn't require the vaccine for anyone attending. They do require masks inside of campus buildings except when eating/drinking.

Anyway, I was worried about it and really stressed over sending him (haha, I know, I couldn't really prevent him, but you know, a mother's stress), but it was his first semester of college and he was beyond excited to start the next phase of his life. He basically told me, "listen, I'm vaccinated and I always wear a mask. Trust me to make good decisions."

It was hard but I did. I stopped stressing and worrying so much. So far, so good. I check the campus dashboard numbers from time to time and they aren't bad.

I just checked today (yesterday's numbers):

Son's school:
Active cases: 107
New positive: 17
Undergrads: 21,000

Comparing with UVA who has a vaccine mandate right now:
Active cases: 376
New cases: 51
Undergrads: 18,000

My son says he doesn't have any direct friends who are not vaccinated. He knows of some people who aren't but he just operates under the assumption that when encountering a new person, they aren't vaccinated until he finds out otherwise.


You do understand that Omicron surge is at different points in different parts of the country, right?


I’m not the pp you quoted, but I’m another pp who also has students at a school that does not require the vaccine. I’ve been following my kids’ college and UVA since August, and it’s consistently been like this (similar or lower Covid numbers.)


DP. To pp’s point, your anecdote is meaningless if you don’t name the other school because there are a whole host of reasons why schools might see differences that don’t somehow come down to vaccine mandates = more covid (which seems to be your contention?).
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2022 14:53     Subject: AG Miyares says Virginia colleges and universities can’t require a Covid vaccine

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have a kid at a college in another state that didn't require the vaccine for anyone attending. They do require masks inside of campus buildings except when eating/drinking.

Anyway, I was worried about it and really stressed over sending him (haha, I know, I couldn't really prevent him, but you know, a mother's stress), but it was his first semester of college and he was beyond excited to start the next phase of his life. He basically told me, "listen, I'm vaccinated and I always wear a mask. Trust me to make good decisions."

It was hard but I did. I stopped stressing and worrying so much. So far, so good. I check the campus dashboard numbers from time to time and they aren't bad.

I just checked today (yesterday's numbers):

Son's school:
Active cases: 107
New positive: 17
Undergrads: 21,000

Comparing with UVA who has a vaccine mandate right now:
Active cases: 376
New cases: 51
Undergrads: 18,000

My son says he doesn't have any direct friends who are not vaccinated. He knows of some people who aren't but he just operates under the assumption that when encountering a new person, they aren't vaccinated until he finds out otherwise.


You do understand that Omicron surge is at different points in different parts of the country, right?


I’m not the pp you quoted, but I’m another pp who also has students at a school that does not require the vaccine. I’ve been following my kids’ college and UVA since August, and it’s consistently been like this (similar or lower Covid numbers.)
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2022 14:05     Subject: AG Miyares says Virginia colleges and universities can’t require a Covid vaccine

Anonymous wrote:I have a kid at a college in another state that didn't require the vaccine for anyone attending. They do require masks inside of campus buildings except when eating/drinking.

Anyway, I was worried about it and really stressed over sending him (haha, I know, I couldn't really prevent him, but you know, a mother's stress), but it was his first semester of college and he was beyond excited to start the next phase of his life. He basically told me, "listen, I'm vaccinated and I always wear a mask. Trust me to make good decisions."

It was hard but I did. I stopped stressing and worrying so much. So far, so good. I check the campus dashboard numbers from time to time and they aren't bad.

I just checked today (yesterday's numbers):

Son's school:
Active cases: 107
New positive: 17
Undergrads: 21,000

Comparing with UVA who has a vaccine mandate right now:
Active cases: 376
New cases: 51
Undergrads: 18,000

My son says he doesn't have any direct friends who are not vaccinated. He knows of some people who aren't but he just operates under the assumption that when encountering a new person, they aren't vaccinated until he finds out otherwise.


You do understand that Omicron surge is at different points in different parts of the country, right?
Anonymous
Post 02/03/2022 14:01     Subject: AG Miyares says Virginia colleges and universities can’t require a Covid vaccine

Anonymous wrote:I have a kid at a college in another state that didn't require the vaccine for anyone attending. They do require masks inside of campus buildings except when eating/drinking.

Anyway, I was worried about it and really stressed over sending him (haha, I know, I couldn't really prevent him, but you know, a mother's stress), but it was his first semester of college and he was beyond excited to start the next phase of his life. He basically told me, "listen, I'm vaccinated and I always wear a mask. Trust me to make good decisions."

It was hard but I did. I stopped stressing and worrying so much. So far, so good. I check the campus dashboard numbers from time to time and they aren't bad.

I just checked today (yesterday's numbers):

Son's school:
Active cases: 107
New positive: 17
Undergrads: 21,000

Comparing with UVA who has a vaccine mandate right now:
Active cases: 376
New cases: 51
Undergrads: 18,000

My son says he doesn't have any direct friends who are not vaccinated. He knows of some people who aren't but he just operates under the assumption that when encountering a new person, they aren't vaccinated until he finds out otherwise.


My kids also go to a university out of state that does not require the vaccine--and like your kid's, their numbers are also lower than schools that require the vaccine (like UVA.) Their numbers are slightly different than your numbers so I know it's not the same school.
I'm guessing it's that way for most of the colleges that are not requiring the vaccine--no significant difference in number of cases compared to schools that are requiring it.