Anonymous wrote:Nope. The obesity epidemic is real and normalizing and sensationalizing the obese as some sexy aspirational role model (like Lizzie, Ashley graham and others) is grotesque. There is no spin than can change the truth that obesity is an illness with many comorbidities and you don’t have to shame fat people to say a fit healthy body at a healthy weight should be the ideal, not living in a state of obesity.

Ok so stop telling people with a normal BMI that they are fat bc they aren't a size 2?

Nope. The obesity epidemic is real and normalizing and sensationalizing the obese as some sexy aspirational role model (like Lizzie, Ashley graham and others) is grotesque. There is no spin than can change the truth that obesity is an illness with many comorbidities and you don’t have to shame fat people to say a fit healthy body at a healthy weight should be the ideal, not living in a state of obesity.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is bananas, the HAES people and the 'there aren't enough anorexic people to be worried about giving people eating disorders' people are all just two sides of the same disordered coin.

I'd care about this more if there was an anorexia epidemic, instead we have an obesity epidemic. The toxic thinking and trying to give teens anorexia plan doesn't seem to be very effective at best and failing at worst. The hand wringing about it is overwrought.

While there may not be an anorexia epidemic, there is absolutely an 'eating disorders and body image issues in young girls' epidemic, something that can lead to anorexia and obesity. So you're not as comfortable on that high horse as you think.

That seems quite contrary to the mantra constantly repeated here that thin is out and thicc is in.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is bananas, the HAES people and the 'there aren't enough anorexic people to be worried about giving people eating disorders' people are all just two sides of the same disordered coin.

I'd care about this more if there was an anorexia epidemic, instead we have an obesity epidemic. The toxic thinking and trying to give teens anorexia plan doesn't seem to be very effective at best and failing at worst. The hand wringing about it is overwrought.

While there may not be an anorexia epidemic, there is absolutely an 'eating disorders and body image issues in young girls' epidemic, something that can lead to anorexia and obesity. So you're not as comfortable on that high horse as you think.

I’m a mom in my mid forties who has struggled with being overweight since we started trying to conceive in my early 30s. I am back on a great path and am ringing in this year fitter than ever in recent memory and with the right formula k need to get fit. When I see skinny moms I feel like it’s either their body type which they can’t help any more than I can help mine, or they work hard at it and I admire their commitment and discipline and their right to look however they choose. At this age, most of my friends are thin, ultra fit and can still rock a bikini and they work hard at it and I really admire that. Women who look better than me inspire me to do better and get my ass in shape, it doesn’t make me angry but motivates me!!

I think people who maintain a consistent weight age well, I've noticed my 40+ friends who lose weight look a bit tired and the friends who stay around the same age better (be it thin, average or overweight)

To answer OP's question- no jealousy here. I'm about 10lbs heavier than I'd like to be but I know it's due to my diet- I love good food and cocktails. I'm 57 and have been roughly the same weight for 20 years + or - 5lbs.

Anonymous wrote:This thread is bananas, the HAES people and the 'there aren't enough anorexic people to be worried about giving people eating disorders' people are all just two sides of the same disordered coin.

I'd care about this more if there was an anorexia epidemic, instead we have an obesity epidemic. The toxic thinking and trying to give teens anorexia plan doesn't seem to be very effective at best and failing at worst. The hand wringing about it is overwrought.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I’m jealous of the many women - moms in their 40s - in my social circle who essentially eat and drink what they want on the regular and maintain their low weight. Sizes 2 and 4s. Meanwhile I eat no more than 1500 calories (which I log) and regularly exercise and my BMI is high. I think people see women like me as dumpy failures. No matter what I achieve or who I am inside, people will ALWAYS see me as a fat person first.

Are you sure they are really eating and drinking whatever they want all the time? I am a size 2/4 and a casual observer might think I could eat whatever I wanted because I definitely indulge if I’m at brunch or dinner or whatever but the rest of the time I pay attention and generally eat super healthy - lots of veggies, not a lot of sugar or processed carbs but I don’t make a big thing of talking about watching my diet.

PP above hit it exactly. All the skinny skinny moms I know never take a day off from exercising, dont have sweets in their house, and eat grilled chicken or salmon with salads every day. They eat/indulge out because they want people to think that is how they are and that they dont work for it. Look at every celebrity---- Im born this way! I love cheeseburgers! I hate exercising!

I’m like the PP above you. I generally eat healthfully day in and day out and exercise daily. When I’m out to a restaurant or party, I eat whatever I want because I know I have a healthy baseline and eating a donut or cheeseburger is ok. I don’t pretend that I eat this way all the time or that I don’t exercise. I am not putting up a front. That you think thin people are all disordered or lying reflects on your own dysfunctional relationship with food. Normal people don’t think about weight/calories all the time.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I’m jealous of the many women - moms in their 40s - in my social circle who essentially eat and drink what they want on the regular and maintain their low weight. Sizes 2 and 4s. Meanwhile I eat no more than 1500 calories (which I log) and regularly exercise and my BMI is high. I think people see women like me as dumpy failures. No matter what I achieve or who I am inside, people will ALWAYS see me as a fat person first.

Are you sure they are really eating and drinking whatever they want all the time? I am a size 2/4 and a casual observer might think I could eat whatever I wanted because I definitely indulge if I’m at brunch or dinner or whatever but the rest of the time I pay attention and generally eat super healthy - lots of veggies, not a lot of sugar or processed carbs but I don’t make a big thing of talking about watching my diet.

PP above hit it exactly. All the skinny skinny moms I know never take a day off from exercising, dont have sweets in their house, and eat grilled chicken or salmon with salads every day. They eat/indulge out because they want people to think that is how they are and that they dont work for it. Look at every celebrity---- Im born this way! I love cheeseburgers! I hate exercising!

So? A lot of people minimize how much effort they put into things. Some of the most successful students I knew in school acted like they didn't study or work hard, but they really did. They wanted to pretend they were just naturally smart when really it was a lot of effort. That's just human nature. Why are people surprised its actually work, like anything else?

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I’m jealous of the many women - moms in their 40s - in my social circle who essentially eat and drink what they want on the regular and maintain their low weight. Sizes 2 and 4s. Meanwhile I eat no more than 1500 calories (which I log) and regularly exercise and my BMI is high. I think people see women like me as dumpy failures. No matter what I achieve or who I am inside, people will ALWAYS see me as a fat person first.

Are you sure they are really eating and drinking whatever they want all the time? I am a size 2/4 and a casual observer might think I could eat whatever I wanted because I definitely indulge if I’m at brunch or dinner or whatever but the rest of the time I pay attention and generally eat super healthy - lots of veggies, not a lot of sugar or processed carbs but I don’t make a big thing of talking about watching my diet.

PP above hit it exactly. All the skinny skinny moms I know never take a day off from exercising, dont have sweets in their house, and eat grilled chicken or salmon with salads every day. They eat/indulge out because they want people to think that is how they are and that they dont work for it. Look at every celebrity---- Im born this way! I love cheeseburgers! I hate exercising!

Pp here…a minor quibble. I indulge when I am out and about because I enjoy it and don’t go on and on about my dietary habits because quite frankly it is very boring when people do that. I don’t care either way if people think I do or do not try.

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Anonymous wrote:"Hey DCUM, does this thing that happens to so many people that it is a central issue in our culture and there are multiple billion dollar industries established to exploit happen to YOU?"

+1

I'm going to say no because I work hard on loving my body and accepting all bodies as beautiful. And I'm a size 2 so it's a bit wild that I have to do this at all.

Size 2 is the perfect size (not trolling)

Perfect size for who? Someone who’s 5’1?

Perfect size for all heights. Do you think the taller you are, the greater your size should be?

Taller people can wear larger sizes -even up to 10! and appear to be thin. 5'7 size 6, but even at size 8, get told to eat a cheeseburger.

In whose eyes? Lol! Show me a celebrity that looks good tall and size 10. If you’re over size 6 you’re on the heavier side

Not going to post a personal pic but I’m over 6 feet and wear a 10 and body looks like a model, given my age. However actual models do have to wear smaller

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I’m jealous of the many women - moms in their 40s - in my social circle who essentially eat and drink what they want on the regular and maintain their low weight. Sizes 2 and 4s. Meanwhile I eat no more than 1500 calories (which I log) and regularly exercise and my BMI is high. I think people see women like me as dumpy failures. No matter what I achieve or who I am inside, people will ALWAYS see me as a fat person first.

Are you sure they are really eating and drinking whatever they want all the time? I am a size 2/4 and a casual observer might think I could eat whatever I wanted because I definitely indulge if I’m at brunch or dinner or whatever but the rest of the time I pay attention and generally eat super healthy - lots of veggies, not a lot of sugar or processed carbs but I don’t make a big thing of talking about watching my diet.

PP above hit it exactly. All the skinny skinny moms I know never take a day off from exercising, dont have sweets in their house, and eat grilled chicken or salmon with salads every day. They eat/indulge out because they want people to think that is how they are and that they dont work for it. Look at every celebrity---- Im born this way! I love cheeseburgers! I hate exercising!

Anonymous wrote:Yes, I’m jealous of the many women - moms in their 40s - in my social circle who essentially eat and drink what they want on the regular and maintain their low weight. Sizes 2 and 4s. Meanwhile I eat no more than 1500 calories (which I log) and regularly exercise and my BMI is high. I think people see women like me as dumpy failures. No matter what I achieve or who I am inside, people will ALWAYS see me as a fat person first.

Are you sure they are really eating and drinking whatever they want all the time? I am a size 2/4 and a casual observer might think I could eat whatever I wanted because I definitely indulge if I’m at brunch or dinner or whatever but the rest of the time I pay attention and generally eat super healthy - lots of veggies, not a lot of sugar or processed carbs but I don’t make a big thing of talking about watching my diet.

Anonymous wrote:36-24-36?
Ha ha, only if she's 5'3...

Baby got back!

Yes sir

This thread need to be shut down, super toxic