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Anonymous wrote:I had three medicated (by choice) vaginal births at Sibley and I EBFed all three for 6+ months. I found Sibley supportive and not pushy. There is a lactation consultant who visits. My OB would have let me be unmedicated if I'd wanted to (they also would have given me a c section if I'd asked). I think if you're looking for somewhere that PUSHES unmedicated/vaginal/EBF, Sibley is not the best bet, but they're perfectly supportive. Your OB practice matters more ultimately.

I delivered at Sibley in November and had a similar experience (no epi, EBF, vaginal). The nurses were great and supportive. Research/ talk to your OB, but otherwise I would recommend Sibley. I had similar concerns as you and in retrospect gave too much weight to this board and a very alarmist doula (who I did not hire - I went with someone else). I've since heard from several mom friends who delivered at GW this fall that they had a bad experience - hospital was overcrowded and tried to (or did) push them out after one night, chaotic delivery and recovery environment, etc.

I had two very different experiences at the same hospital, and surprisingly the unexpected covid C section with no support person after recovery was the better of the two. It depends alot on your nurse and how busy they are.

My birth experiences at Sibley *now almost 8 and 5.5 years ago* were great. I'm somewhat granola, but open to medical interventions when needed. Both my births were med-free and I EBF'd. I agree wholeheartedly with the PP that OBs aren't in it to make bank. They are focused on the health of moms and babies. Sometimes, that means emergency c-sections. Sometimes that's a birth before they can get there. I came into the hospital at 41+2 with a 101 degree fever. My OB knew I wanted to try for unmedicated birth and told me he would try less invasive treatments first, but couldn't promise it would happen. I think some OBs may be more cautious and would go for a c-section in that scenario, but that's about caution, not money.

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Anonymous wrote:I flipped my breech baby using yoga poses. Keep your knife away from me.

This has to be a parody.

Can't stand being bested? I learned it too in my prenatal yoga class. I didn't need it but 2 other moms did. Loved hearing their birth stories post-partum.

A) this is crazy and
B) I flipped my breech baby using yoga poses, too. She was head down when I arrived at the hospital. And then, during active labor, she flipped back to breech. So I had to have an unplanned c section. Rare but not unheard of according to my doctors.

Why are some people like this?

Because it’s a superiority thing. Because they totally discount the other things that they had in their favor that made their uncomplicated vaginal delivery possible - anatomy, genetics, baby size, baby position, strength of contractions, etc. They believe in causation of their preparation, training, provider type, and medication preference etc. with their delivery outcome and forget that correlation does not equal causation. They want to justify their suffering unmedicated childbirth as the reason their birth outcome was so good. They tend to embrace the midwifery model and ignore the deep rooted misogyny and materialistic perspective in Unmedicated childbirth. It’s very messed up and sad. These type of women also love to blame other women for poor outcomes, C-sections, birth injuries, complications etc. and they especially love to demonize OBs as C section hacks who are trying to make a tee time, when the reality couldn’t be further from the truth.

Delivering with a midwife may increase the chance of a vaginal delivery, but it does not mean drug-free, necessarily. And thank goodness for that! As my midwife said, epidurals prevent emergency C-sections (i.e., in my case it relieved enough of the pain to ensure I could continue pushing without total agony).

Anonymous wrote:I don’t see the connection between unmediated birth and exclusive breastfeeding. My two SIL’s had unmedicated vaginal births but couldn’t breastfeed. I had a c section and then a medicated VBAC and have never used formula. The two don’t necessarily go hand-in-hand.

I know one person who had a c section and couldn't breastfeed, but it wasa correlation thing, not a causation thing. She had a c section because of an abruption (saved her daughter's life) but the amount of blood loss frim the abruption made breastfeeding impossible.

I had a c section for a breech baby and EBF just fine

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I flipped my breech baby using yoga poses. Keep your knife away from me.

This has to be a parody.

Can't stand being bested? I learned it too in my prenatal yoga class. I didn't need it but 2 other moms did. Loved hearing their birth stories post-partum.

That is really weird you think of birth in terms of “besting” others. I don’t care how your birth was - you have bad energy regardless. You’d probably be a kinder, more humble person if you had a c section.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I flipped my breech baby using yoga poses. Keep your knife away from me.

This has to be a parody.

Can't stand being bested? I learned it too in my prenatal yoga class. I didn't need it but 2 other moms did. Loved hearing their birth stories post-partum.

A) this is crazy and
B) I flipped my breech baby using yoga poses, too. She was head down when I arrived at the hospital. And then, during active labor, she flipped back to breech. So I had to have an unplanned c section. Rare but not unheard of according to my doctors.

Why are some people like this?