Anonymous
01/18/2022 19:30
Subject: Re:VA is now anti voting State
Anonymous wrote:Did our grandparents need an ID to vote for Kennedy in 1964?
Did our parents need an ID to vote for Reagan in 1984?
If they didn’t need ID to vote - why do we need one now?
Not one Republican has addressed this.
Plus we already have voter ID - your signature.
Were people of different races allowed to marry in 1964?
Were gay people allowed to marry in 1984?
It's called progress. I thought Dems profess to be all about progress?
Anonymous
01/18/2022 19:30
Subject: VA is now anti voting State
Anonymous wrote:Hmm . . . which party approved of, renewed, and expanded REAL ID? Oh yeah - Obama’s party.
Does the GOP want to require REAL ID for voting now?!?!
Anonymous
01/18/2022 19:27
Subject: Re:VA is now anti voting State
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did our grandparents need an ID to vote for Kennedy in 1964?
Did our parents need an ID to vote for Reagan in 1984?
If they didn’t need ID to vote - why do we need one now?
Not one Republican has addressed this.
Plus we already have voter ID - your signature.
Times change. Deal with it.
Isn’t two of the principles of conservatism that change should be implemented just for the sake of change, and that any change should be incremental? This seems to violate both of them.
DP. How on earth is this a "drastic change"? There probably isn't anything more incremental than this. Most people already have ID. The few who don't can get it. The end.
Anonymous
01/18/2022 19:27
Subject: VA is now anti voting State
Hmm . . . which party approved of, renewed, and expanded REAL ID? Oh yeah - Obama’s party.
Anonymous
01/18/2022 19:26
Subject: Re:VA is now anti voting State
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did our grandparents need an ID to vote for Kennedy in 1964?
Did our parents need an ID to vote for Reagan in 1984?
If they didn’t need ID to vote - why do we need one now?
Not one Republican has addressed this.
Plus we already have voter ID - your signature.
Times change. Deal with it.
Excellent point. Isn't this what Dems are always saying? "Times change, deal with it"? Interesting that they can't manage to roll with this. Actually, the vast majority of Americans agree with voter ID laws. It's just the few wackos who feel the need to fight it.
Anonymous
01/18/2022 19:18
Subject: Re:VA is now anti voting State
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did our grandparents need an ID to vote for Kennedy in 1964?
Did our parents need an ID to vote for Reagan in 1984?
If they didn’t need ID to vote - why do we need one now?
Not one Republican has addressed this.
Plus we already have voter ID - your signature.
Times change. Deal with it.
Isn’t two of the principles of conservatism that change should be implemented just for the sake of change, and that any change should be incremental? This seems to violate both of them.
Anonymous
01/18/2022 13:08
Subject: VA is now anti voting State
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People who think requiring a photo ID to vote (and a specific one at that), who think that removing ballot drop boxes in underserved areas, who think that cutting back on early voting, who think that shutting down polling places -- conveniently in areas where more Democrats tend to vote -- does NOT have any affect on people's access to voting have a limited imagination and a limited life experience.
I mean, that you cannot imagine how anyone would have any difficulty getting a new photo id that is approved for voting just goes to show the poverty of YOUR mind.
Exactly.
Ditto. My 85 year parents do not have photo ID and don’t travel by plane. They will not be able to vote with the new law.
Are you willing to drive all of the elderly people who don’t have a ride or someone to help them gather documents?
My 86 years old mother doesn't drive or travel by plane. I took her to DMV to get Real ID. Why can't you?
Anonymous
01/18/2022 13:03
Subject: VA is now anti voting State
Anonymous wrote:Why is it necessary to change the voting laws?
Because when Republicans can't win, they change the system to rig it so they can win.
Anonymous
01/18/2022 12:56
Subject: VA is now anti voting State
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People who think requiring a photo ID to vote (and a specific one at that), who think that removing ballot drop boxes in underserved areas, who think that cutting back on early voting, who think that shutting down polling places -- conveniently in areas where more Democrats tend to vote -- does NOT have any affect on people's access to voting have a limited imagination and a limited life experience.
I mean, that you cannot imagine how anyone would have any difficulty getting a new photo id that is approved for voting just goes to show the poverty of YOUR mind.
Exactly.
Ditto. My 85 year parents do not have photo ID and don’t travel by plane. They will not be able to vote with the new law.
So your parents never see the doctor? Photo ID required.
DP. I never have to show photo id at the doctor. Not when I go to my pcp, my gyn, my dermatologist, my opthamologist or my orthopedist.
Yes, you did the first time when you also gave them your insurance card. After that you’re correct.
Which means pp’s point stands. If you are already established with your doctors, you don’t need photo id to continue seeing your doctors. PP was saying you can’t go to a doctor at all without a photo id, so lack of a valid photo id would mean the other poster’s elderly parent could never go to the doctor since she does not have valid photo id.
I am one of the PPs.
I never made the blanket statement you can’t go to the doctor without ID (although they are sticklers for proof of insurance - which requires - wait for it - ID !!).
But Lab Corp and at least 2 of my doctors/dentist require an automated kiosk check-in that scans your DL.
The idea that there are many willing and eager voters, ready to vote, but who somehow can’t get some sort of valid ID is simply idiotic.
I do not believe these ID requirements will disenfranchise anyone in Virginia.
That may be particular to your doctors, but is not universal. Even when I update my insurance information with my established doctors, they do not request photo id. Furthermore, nursing home residents (one of the populations we’ve been discussing) generally don’t need to go to Lab Corp for blood draws; those are done on site at the nursing facility. Your self-centered insistence that everyone’s experience must be the same as yours is ignorant and flat-out wrong.
Anonymous
01/18/2022 12:30
Subject: VA is now anti voting State
We had pretty strict voter ID laws here not that long ago. I think it was a non-expired state photo ID card, like a drivers license or a state ID. That didn’t stop VA from electing Democrats though. Then the state legislature got rid of the strictest ID requirements and then we elected a R governor. Coincidence, I think not.
Anonymous
01/18/2022 12:19
Subject: Re:VA is now anti voting State
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did our grandparents need an ID to vote for Kennedy in 1964?
Did our parents need an ID to vote for Reagan in 1984?
If they didn’t need ID to vote - why do we need one now?
Not one Republican has addressed this.
Plus we already have voter ID - your signature.
Times change. Deal with it.
What changed? I keep seeing Republicans get arrested for voter fraud. Hell, Youngkin's kid tried to commit voter fraud twice.
Anonymous
01/18/2022 11:37
Subject: VA is now anti voting State
The idea that there are many willing and eager voters, ready to vote, but who somehow can’t get some sort of valid ID is simply idiotic.
You’re wrong. Start here in this other thread:
http://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/240/1028262.page#21740028
Anonymous
01/18/2022 11:32
Subject: VA is now anti voting State
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People who think requiring a photo ID to vote (and a specific one at that), who think that removing ballot drop boxes in underserved areas, who think that cutting back on early voting, who think that shutting down polling places -- conveniently in areas where more Democrats tend to vote -- does NOT have any affect on people's access to voting have a limited imagination and a limited life experience.
I mean, that you cannot imagine how anyone would have any difficulty getting a new photo id that is approved for voting just goes to show the poverty of YOUR mind.
Exactly.
Ditto. My 85 year parents do not have photo ID and don’t travel by plane. They will not be able to vote with the new law.
DP. I never have to show photo id at the doctor. Not when I go to my pcp, my gyn, my dermatologist, my opthamologist or my orthopedist.
Yes, you did the first time when you also gave them your insurance card. After that you’re correct.
Which means pp’s point stands. If you are already established with your doctors, you don’t need photo id to continue seeing your doctors. PP was saying you can’t go to a doctor at all without a photo id, so lack of a valid photo id would mean the other poster’s elderly parent could never go to the doctor since she does not have valid photo id.
I am one of the PPs.
I never made the blanket statement you can’t go to the doctor without ID (although they are sticklers for proof of insurance - which requires - wait for it - ID !!).
But Lab Corp and at least 2 of my doctors/dentist require an automated kiosk check-in that scans your DL.
The idea that there are many willing and eager voters, ready to vote, but who somehow can’t get some sort of valid ID is simply idiotic.
I do not believe these ID requirements will disenfranchise anyone in Virginia.
Why would you admit being so ignorant?
Anonymous
01/18/2022 11:28
Subject: VA is now anti voting State
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People who think requiring a photo ID to vote (and a specific one at that), who think that removing ballot drop boxes in underserved areas, who think that cutting back on early voting, who think that shutting down polling places -- conveniently in areas where more Democrats tend to vote -- does NOT have any affect on people's access to voting have a limited imagination and a limited life experience.
I mean, that you cannot imagine how anyone would have any difficulty getting a new photo id that is approved for voting just goes to show the poverty of YOUR mind.
Exactly.
Ditto. My 85 year parents do not have photo ID and don’t travel by plane. They will not be able to vote with the new law.
My 86 years old mother doesn't drive or travel by plane. I took her to DMV to get Real ID. Why can't you?
Anonymous
01/18/2022 11:04
Subject: Re:VA is now anti voting State
Anonymous wrote:Did our grandparents need an ID to vote for Kennedy in 1964?
Did our parents need an ID to vote for Reagan in 1984?
If they didn’t need ID to vote - why do we need one now?
Not one Republican has addressed this.
Plus we already have voter ID - your signature.
Times change. Deal with it.