Anonymous
Post 12/31/2021 22:24     Subject: Should I tell my DD to not be pre-med?
^ sorry for all the typos
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2021 22:22     Subject: Should I tell my DD to not be pre-med?
Beyond any moral/parenting concerns, l would be afraid that your daughter would completely collapse and give up on a degree all together if you make get transfer now because did poorly in a few classes…there’s more than one way to be successful in medicine w/o going to med school …she could do a couple of years as a biomed research technician after graduating in an even vaguely related field, get into a Biosomething PhD and then move to Big pharma and make tons of money that way, if that’s important to you. Especially at JHU the opportunities for that kind of path are many. Research opportunities in the summer are abundant in public heath or related fields…if you have jhed ID already it’s much easier to hire you for that kind of lab experience than if you apply from outside the JHU system... Just something to consider…
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2021 22:18     Subject: Should I tell my DD to not be pre-med?
No. Encourage her to continue working hard. If she doesn’t get in, she doesn’t get in and she can figure out a different plan then.

My brother got a C plus in Orgo first semester and managed to pull out an A second semester. He got into a top twenty med school and is a successful doctor now.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2021 22:10     Subject: Should I tell my DD to not be pre-med?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think a parent should be the person who tells you that you are incapable of achieving your dream.

This is exactly the conversation your daughter’s advisor may initiate. Plus, just by talking to other kids, she will likely realize that she needs to change course.

There are many other medical routes for her to consider ( PA, PT, public health, nurse, audiologist, speech therapist, etc).



If OP isn’t going to pay for a degree in Public Policy, do you really think she’s going to pay for a nursing degree?


Hopkins hospital has some of the most amazing nurse practitioners, specializing in neurosurgery, and other very demanding specialist subjects. These people, men and women, make a huge difference in people's lives. Why the fuk not pursue that?
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2021 22:10     Subject: Re:Should I tell my DD to not be pre-med?
Do young know the statistics on suicide in people 18 to 22? Why would you force her into a stem field if it’s going to make her miserable?

You are going to be so sorry for your inflexibility one day, OP. So sorry.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2021 22:06     Subject: Should I tell my DD to not be pre-med?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP, I think you’re trying to be a good parent, but I would really rethink your approach of insisting she transfer if she is no longer premed. It sounds like you can afford Hopkins, you just don’t think it’s good value if she’s not premed — but that only makes sense if she were the one bearing the loans, and then it should still be her decision. And, as another poster said, undergrad school doesn’t mean as much for med school admission, so your reasoning on that score doesn’t make sense either. Did you tell her you would only pay for Hopkins if she committed to Pre-med even if she hated it? And if you did, do you think you provided wise guidance? I think if you think it through, you will see that you also made a lot of mistakes along the way in helping her explore her options and consequences, and so at this point, since you can afford it, let her figure it out without threatening a change in schools. You said yourself Hopkins was great for her advocacy and other interests. Let her figure it out.


OP here. We were fine if she did something else besides pre-med, but it had to be in STEM and earn a STEM degree. That's what we told her two years ago.



You’re horrible parents. So bad, in fact, that I’m calling troll.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2021 21:58     Subject: Should I tell my DD to not be pre-med?o
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Anonymous wrote:No. It’s her journey.


OP here. But, I'm paying for her school.



And you wouldn’t pay if she doesn’t get into med school?

Don’t do that, OP. You’re paying for her college education. What she does with it is up to her.


OP here. No, I would get her to transfer to a cheaper school if she decides not to be pre-med because full price for a public health degree is not worth it.


Wow.


+1 I mean seriously, what a way to destroy your kid.


Think of all the women here who are desperate to conceive. Some lose baby after baby. Some have kids with severe special needs. Some have bright, well-adjusted kids but no money at all.

OP has some money, and a kid wonderful enough to get into Johns Hopkins, who apparently is advancing toward getting a degree in spite of taking impossibly tough weedout classes, and the OP wants to ruin the kid’s life because the kid might be heading toward, gasp, a career in health care administration. As if there aren’t a kajillon people making a fortune working in health care administration in the DMV area.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2021 21:58     Subject: Should I tell my DD to not be pre-med?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is the advice of her MD dad?


OP here. She should stick at Hopkins because it's Hopkins and maybe retake the orgo course somewhere else.



That is a good advice .
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2021 21:33     Subject: Should I tell my DD to not be pre-med?
Anonymous wrote:OP, I think you’re trying to be a good parent, but I would really rethink your approach of insisting she transfer if she is no longer premed. It sounds like you can afford Hopkins, you just don’t think it’s good value if she’s not premed — but that only makes sense if she were the one bearing the loans, and then it should still be her decision. And, as another poster said, undergrad school doesn’t mean as much for med school admission, so your reasoning on that score doesn’t make sense either. Did you tell her you would only pay for Hopkins if she committed to Pre-med even if she hated it? And if you did, do you think you provided wise guidance? I think if you think it through, you will see that you also made a lot of mistakes along the way in helping her explore her options and consequences, and so at this point, since you can afford it, let her figure it out without threatening a change in schools. You said yourself Hopkins was great for her advocacy and other interests. Let her figure it out.


OP here. We were fine if she did something else besides pre-med, but it had to be in STEM and earn a STEM degree. That's what we told her two years ago.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2021 21:31     Subject: Should I tell my DD to not be pre-med?
OP, I think you’re trying to be a good parent, but I would really rethink your approach of insisting she transfer if she is no longer premed. It sounds like you can afford Hopkins, you just don’t think it’s good value if she’s not premed — but that only makes sense if she were the one bearing the loans, and then it should still be her decision. And, as another poster said, undergrad school doesn’t mean as much for med school admission, so your reasoning on that score doesn’t make sense either. Did you tell her you would only pay for Hopkins if she committed to Pre-med even if she hated it? And if you did, do you think you provided wise guidance? I think if you think it through, you will see that you also made a lot of mistakes along the way in helping her explore her options and consequences, and so at this point, since you can afford it, let her figure it out without threatening a change in schools. You said yourself Hopkins was great for her advocacy and other interests. Let her figure it out.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2021 21:31     Subject: Should I tell my DD to not be pre-med?
Anonymous wrote:Public health is an amazing field. It absolutely does enable you to change the world. I would be so proud if my child wanted to save lives and prevent suffering in her career.

But since you seem to think that only money matters, I make $180,000 a year in public health, which is more than adequate for a decent lifestyle.


And it's public health at HOPKINS! You think OP would understand it's literally the No.1 school to study public health. Grr.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2021 21:25     Subject: Should I tell my DD to not be pre-med?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Public health is an amazing field. It absolutely does enable you to change the world. I would be so proud if my child wanted to save lives and prevent suffering in her career.

But since you seem to think that only money matters, I make $180,000 a year in public health, which is more than adequate for a decent lifestyle.


Yes but 400k+ is better


Perhaps you would be happy if she sold drugs, since incomes seems to be your sole barometer for success.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2021 21:08     Subject: Should I tell my DD to not be pre-med?
Anonymous wrote:Public health is an amazing field. It absolutely does enable you to change the world. I would be so proud if my child wanted to save lives and prevent suffering in her career.

But since you seem to think that only money matters, I make $180,000 a year in public health, which is more than adequate for a decent lifestyle.


Yes but 400k+ is better
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2021 20:39     Subject: Should I tell my DD to not be pre-med?
Public health is an amazing field. It absolutely does enable you to change the world. I would be so proud if my child wanted to save lives and prevent suffering in her career.

But since you seem to think that only money matters, I make $180,000 a year in public health, which is more than adequate for a decent lifestyle.
Anonymous
Post 12/31/2021 20:14     Subject: Should I tell my DD to not be pre-med?
Anonymous wrote:OP is a wacko. I can’t see any way to defend her


+1. Neither can I.