Anonymous
12/18/2021 16:57
Subject: Arrogant Biglaw associates applying for fed jobs
Anonymous wrote:!Anonymous wrote:I just want to say that I am shocked that OP encountered a lawyer in Washington, DC (on of the most humble places on earth) who has an ego.
Seriously - LOL! Years ago, the WP put it best ... "you can't swing a dead cat w/o hitting a lawyer in DC". (And, I am one btw)
Years ago I was at a PTA meeting and had the temerity to ask the other parents from my kid’s DCPS school if there might be a potential liability issue with something they wanted to do (I’m in tech and knew a lot about the technology thing they wanted to do). I quickly learned that I was literally the only non-lawyer in the group of 10 parents.
Anonymous
12/17/2021 13:37
Subject: Arrogant Biglaw associates applying for fed jobs
Anonymous wrote:Interesting comment about trial experience. I look for attorneys who write well enough to win their cases on a motion.
Ha! Enjoyed this, but sometimes this just can't be done, and I have to explain this to attorneys who do not do litigation. Sometimes, there is no quick or easy way out of a case. If you took a case where there are genuine issues of material fact in dispute, you saying that they're not in dispute will not automatically make it so.
Anonymous
12/17/2021 00:31
Subject: Arrogant Biglaw associates applying for fed jobs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just remember -- yes gov lawyers can have way more responsibility than biglaw associates but -- biglaw associates can out work gov lawyers.
As a biglaw associate currently billing 14 hours a day with no time to buy Christmas presents, see friends or do anything but work (including going outside and eating meals), this thread is giving me life!
I can’t imagine being arrogant about this job. You don’t even really need to be smart to do it, just willing to grind. Plz take pity on your biglaw friends and former colleagues. We are struggling.
You sound just as out of touch as the person discussed in the OP. You're "struggling" and need pity because you work a lot of hours but make lots of money? Remind me again to feel sorry for you when you get your bonus check.
Anonymous
12/16/2021 23:56
Subject: Arrogant Biglaw associates applying for fed jobs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just remember -- yes gov lawyers can have way more responsibility than biglaw associates but -- biglaw associates can out work gov lawyers.
As a biglaw associate currently billing 14 hours a day with no time to buy Christmas presents, see friends or do anything but work (including going outside and eating meals), this thread is giving me life!
I can’t imagine being arrogant about this job. You don’t even really need to be smart to do it, just willing to grind. Plz take pity on your biglaw friends and former colleagues. We are struggling.
My point above. Gov lawyers cannot grind like Biglaw.
Many can. And I've seen way too many crap briefs coming out of Biglaw.
Anonymous
12/16/2021 07:39
Subject: Arrogant Biglaw associates applying for fed jobs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP had me until, "And that it takes them 5+ years in biglaw to get the same level of responsibility that we give to first year honors attorneys at my agency." I doubt that is true. It certainly is not at my agency. OP should also realize that what she does is not all that unique. In my experience, I know I can train anyone, so academic credentials are important to me.
It's true at my agency. Honors Attorneys in my component go straight into the courtroom. I first-chaired my second trial. And because we can't staff cases like Biglaw does, a couple of attorneys are doing everything -- drafting, discovery, appearing in court, etc. The only people who get hands-on experience that fast are JAG attorneys and public defenders.
And legal aid attorneys! Being in the trenches is like dog years compared to Big Law.
Anonymous
12/15/2021 23:27
Subject: Arrogant Biglaw associates applying for fed jobs
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just remember -- yes gov lawyers can have way more responsibility than biglaw associates but -- biglaw associates can out work gov lawyers.
And then they go back to a firm because they want more money since they’re working so many hours. Bye!
Maybe 10% can make it back.