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Anonymous wrote:I was at a college presentation and tour the other day with my senior and the world language chair used the term "LatinX." Immediately, you could see the parents (and students) shaking their heads and rolling their eyes. Funny how people who use that term are so oblivious to how dopey they look.

I could see the parents, but I don't believe you when you talk about the students. It's common enough among young people that students would not bat an eye.

Sure maybe in the pottery department at Emily Dickinson College, Latinx would be used, but not in the.math department at Carnegie Mellon

Watch out for the kiln, Fawn! I’ve got a baaaaaaddddd feeling about it!

I actually know a professor from Carnegie Mellon. She uses the term. She's in the English department. The point is that some people use it and some don't. It's not a big deal. All of a sudden, Rs care about Latinos. Interesting.

of course they care now. they see it is helping them convince hispanics to vote republican.

Shocker. I know. Some Hispanic people like low taxes for their business, and to refute the soft bigotry of low expectations offered by the democrats. It’s crazy.

And some want to pull up the ladder and not pass DACA

Especially the ones who followed the law and immigrated legally. It's insulting (btw) to treat all hispanics as though they are illegal immigrants.

My family "followed the law and immigrated legally". We could do that because we have education and money. The immigration system does not make it easy to come in legally if you do not have money. Yet our economy has a lot of demand for low-skilled workers. Often from the most hawkish anti-immigration people. They are the ones that hire undocumented immigrants and then commit wage theft.

If we really wanted no undocumented immigrants, then the best thing to do would be to focus enforcement efforts on the companies that hire them. But that has never been done. The reality is we want these workers, we just want them to live in fear so we can exploit them .

DP. At least be honest. Plenty of liberal business owners hire illegal, low-skilled workers. You know that, right?

So? Their politics align with their actions. They recognize the value of immigrants undocumented or not. Right-wing anti-immigration elected officials like Tommy Hamm who rail against undocumented immigrants but hire them and steal their wages are showing us what this system is really about.

If we don't want undocumented immigrants, WHY DON'T WE PROSECUTE THE COMPANIES THAT USE THEM?

I'll say it again.

If we don't want undocumented immigrants, WHY DON'T WE PROSECUTE THE COMPANIES THAT USE THEM?

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Anonymous wrote:I was at a college presentation and tour the other day with my senior and the world language chair used the term "LatinX." Immediately, you could see the parents (and students) shaking their heads and rolling their eyes. Funny how people who use that term are so oblivious to how dopey they look.

I could see the parents, but I don't believe you when you talk about the students. It's common enough among young people that students would not bat an eye.

Sure maybe in the pottery department at Emily Dickinson College, Latinx would be used, but not in the.math department at Carnegie Mellon

Watch out for the kiln, Fawn! I’ve got a baaaaaaddddd feeling about it!

I actually know a professor from Carnegie Mellon. She uses the term. She's in the English department. The point is that some people use it and some don't. It's not a big deal. All of a sudden, Rs care about Latinos. Interesting.

of course they care now. they see it is helping them convince hispanics to vote republican.

Shocker. I know. Some Hispanic people like low taxes for their business, and to refute the soft bigotry of low expectations offered by the democrats. It’s crazy.

And some want to pull up the ladder and not pass DACA

Especially the ones who followed the law and immigrated legally. It's insulting (btw) to treat all hispanics as though they are illegal immigrants.

My family "followed the law and immigrated legally". We could do that because we have education and money. The immigration system does not make it easy to come in legally if you do not have money. Yet our economy has a lot of demand for low-skilled workers. Often from the most hawkish anti-immigration people. They are the ones that hire undocumented immigrants and then commit wage theft.

If we really wanted no undocumented immigrants, then the best thing to do would be to focus enforcement efforts on the companies that hire them. But that has never been done. The reality is we want these workers, we just want them to live in fear so we can exploit them .

DP. At least be honest. Plenty of liberal business owners hire illegal, low-skilled workers. You know that, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Latinx is so important to Hispanics- apart from macho Cuban republicans.

Let’s proudly use it to include our Latinx Americans!

And don't forget about Chinx!

Anonymous wrote:Latinx is so important to Hispanics- apart from macho Cuban republicans.

Let’s proudly use it to include our Latinx Americans!

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Anonymous wrote:I was at a college presentation and tour the other day with my senior and the world language chair used the term "LatinX." Immediately, you could see the parents (and students) shaking their heads and rolling their eyes. Funny how people who use that term are so oblivious to how dopey they look.

I could see the parents, but I don't believe you when you talk about the students. It's common enough among young people that students would not bat an eye.

Sure maybe in the pottery department at Emily Dickinson College, Latinx would be used, but not in the.math department at Carnegie Mellon

Watch out for the kiln, Fawn! I’ve got a baaaaaaddddd feeling about it!

I actually know a professor from Carnegie Mellon. She uses the term. She's in the English department. The point is that some people use it and some don't. It's not a big deal. All of a sudden, Rs care about Latinos. Interesting.

of course they care now. they see it is helping them convince hispanics to vote republican.

Shocker. I know. Some Hispanic people like low taxes for their business, and to refute the soft bigotry of low expectations offered by the democrats. It’s crazy.

And some want to pull up the ladder and not pass DACA

Especially the ones who followed the law and immigrated legally. It's insulting (btw) to treat all hispanics as though they are illegal immigrants.

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I don't blame legal immigrants at ALL for resenting DACA. They followed the law to be here. Period.

Anonymous wrote:No one I know uses this term. It is yet again a right wing pushed tripe that people buy into.

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Anonymous wrote:Are "white Hispanics" included in BIPOC?

White Latina here and no, I do not consider myself BIPOC. Technically I do have some indigenous ancestry (more than Elizabeth Warren), so I think it is a bit of a gray area. But most people who don't know me see me as White and treat me as such which is different from how my friends and family who are BIPOC are treated.

Your employer considers you Hispanic in its calculations of diversity. Absolutely no doubt about it. Your appearance and language make no difference. If you have a Latin sound name they will assume it. OTOH, if you have an Anglo sounding name and everything else is the same, they won't. If you look at employer or school data, there is a reason that institutions that used to have 5-10 percent diversity suddenty have 30-40 percent. They are looking for people who can check different boxes regardless of whether that is reflected in anything else about the person.

Are you suggesting I'm not as qualified as my White coworkers because I'm Latina?

Absolutely not. NO. I am saying that even it your race/gender had nothing to do with your hiring, it is still something you company wants to make reference to in its data about its employees. Companies are expected to show a significant percentage of employees are diverse. So, for example, in the Federal government we are asked tons of questions about our demographics. We are now asked what gender we were "assigned" at birth and also how we identify today. No one cared about that 10 years ago and e already work there but the government wants to gather data on race, gender etc so it can describe how diverse its workforce is today.

Okay, what's the big deal then? I am Latina/Hispanic. I speak Spanish. It's not incorrect to categorize me as Hispanic.

There is no big deal. I thought you asked if White Latina would considered Hispanic. I would say yes based on the majority survey questions regarding race thst I have seen.

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Anonymous wrote:I was at a college presentation and tour the other day with my senior and the world language chair used the term "LatinX." Immediately, you could see the parents (and students) shaking their heads and rolling their eyes. Funny how people who use that term are so oblivious to how dopey they look.

I could see the parents, but I don't believe you when you talk about the students. It's common enough among young people that students would not bat an eye.

Sure maybe in the pottery department at Emily Dickinson College, Latinx would be used, but not in the.math department at Carnegie Mellon

Watch out for the kiln, Fawn! I’ve got a baaaaaaddddd feeling about it!

I actually know a professor from Carnegie Mellon. She uses the term. She's in the English department. The point is that some people use it and some don't. It's not a big deal. All of a sudden, Rs care about Latinos. Interesting.

of course they care now. they see it is helping them convince hispanics to vote republican.

Shocker. I know. Some Hispanic people like low taxes for their business, and to refute the soft bigotry of low expectations offered by the democrats. It’s crazy.

And some want to pull up the ladder and not pass DACA

Especially the ones who followed the law and immigrated legally. It's insulting (btw) to treat all hispanics as though they are illegal immigrants.

My family "followed the law and immigrated legally". We could do that because we have education and money. The immigration system does not make it easy to come in legally if you do not have money. Yet our economy has a lot of demand for low-skilled workers. Often from the most hawkish anti-immigration people. They are the ones that hire undocumented immigrants and then commit wage theft.

If we really wanted no undocumented immigrants, then the best thing to do would be to focus enforcement efforts on the companies that hire them. But that has never been done. The reality is we want these workers, we just want them to live in fear so we can exploit them .

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Anonymous wrote:The Spanish language itself is steeped in gender. English-speaking people trying to change and neutralize another culture’s language to suit their politically motivated worldview is deeply offensive to native Spanish speakers.

Duh.

At my agency we recently had a mandatory training and we told to try to use LatinX and the native Spanish speakers gave this same feedback. But hey, if it makes the Upper West Side and NPR happy, I guess that is what you do.

Precisely this! Latinos see this for what it is: racist old fashioned colonialism in the guise of “inclusion” of the LGBTQ community. It is exactly the same thing white colonizers did in the distant past to Native Americans. Change “savage” cultures to be more “modern” and imposing their worldview on what these racist liberals thought were inferior peoples and cultures.

The fact of the matter is that a large swath of working class blacks and Latinos are not on board for this far left cultural shift that these upper class white elitists are trying to impose on them in the same guise of benevolence and enlightenment that was used on Native people in the past.

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Anonymous wrote:I was at a college presentation and tour the other day with my senior and the world language chair used the term "LatinX." Immediately, you could see the parents (and students) shaking their heads and rolling their eyes. Funny how people who use that term are so oblivious to how dopey they look.

I could see the parents, but I don't believe you when you talk about the students. It's common enough among young people that students would not bat an eye.

Sure maybe in the pottery department at Emily Dickinson College, Latinx would be used, but not in the.math department at Carnegie Mellon

Watch out for the kiln, Fawn! I’ve got a baaaaaaddddd feeling about it!

I actually know a professor from Carnegie Mellon. She uses the term. She's in the English department. The point is that some people use it and some don't. It's not a big deal. All of a sudden, Rs care about Latinos. Interesting.

of course they care now. they see it is helping them convince hispanics to vote republican.

Shocker. I know. Some Hispanic people like low taxes for their business, and to refute the soft bigotry of low expectations offered by the democrats. It’s crazy.

And some want to pull up the ladder and not pass DACA

Especially the ones who followed the law and immigrated legally. It's insulting (btw) to treat all hispanics as though they are illegal immigrants.

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Anonymous wrote:The Spanish language itself is steeped in gender. English-speaking people trying to change and neutralize another culture’s language to suit their politically motivated worldview is deeply offensive to native Spanish speakers.

Duh.

At my agency we recently had a mandatory training and we told to try to use LatinX and the native Spanish speakers gave this same feedback. But hey, if it makes the Upper West Side and NPR happy, I guess that is what you do.

Precisely this! Latinos see this for what it is: racist old fashioned colonialism in the guise of “inclusion” of the LGBTQ community. It is exactly the same thing white colonizers did in the distant past to Native Americans. Change “savage” cultures to be more “modern” and imposing their worldview on what these racist liberals thought were inferior peoples and cultures.

The fact of the matter is that a large swath of working class blacks and Latinos are not on board for this far left cultural shift that these upper class white elitists are trying to impose on them in the same guise of benevolence and enlightenment that was used on Native people in the past.

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Anonymous wrote:I was at a college presentation and tour the other day with my senior and the world language chair used the term "LatinX." Immediately, you could see the parents (and students) shaking their heads and rolling their eyes. Funny how people who use that term are so oblivious to how dopey they look.

I could see the parents, but I don't believe you when you talk about the students. It's common enough among young people that students would not bat an eye.

Sure maybe in the pottery department at Emily Dickinson College, Latinx would be used, but not in the.math department at Carnegie Mellon

Watch out for the kiln, Fawn! I’ve got a baaaaaaddddd feeling about it!

I actually know a professor from Carnegie Mellon. She uses the term. She's in the English department. The point is that some people use it and some don't. It's not a big deal. All of a sudden, Rs care about Latinos. Interesting.

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Anonymous wrote:I was at a college presentation and tour the other day with my senior and the world language chair used the term "LatinX." Immediately, you could see the parents (and students) shaking their heads and rolling their eyes. Funny how people who use that term are so oblivious to how dopey they look.

I could see the parents, but I don't believe you when you talk about the students. It's common enough among young people that students would not bat an eye.

Sure maybe in the pottery department at Emily Dickinson College, Latinx would be used, but not in the.math department at Carnegie Mellon

Watch out for the kiln, Fawn! I’ve got a baaaaaaddddd feeling about it!

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Anonymous wrote:No one I know uses this term. It is yet again a right wing pushed tripe that people buy into.

I literally heard it on an NBC News report the other day. It sounded weird.

And here it is in the Boston Globe. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bostonglobe.com/2021/11/22/opinion/how-latinx-communities-are-benefiting-bidens-economic-agenda/%3foutputType=amp

New York Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/29/style/new-latinx-literature.html

CNN: https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/10/entertainment/gallery/hollywood-latinxcellence/index.html

CNBC: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/11/17/harvards-student-newspaper-elects-its-first-latinx-president.html

SFGate: https://www.sfgate.com/news/bayarea/article/Sf-City-s-Latinx-Population-Continues-To-See-15792781.php

Are these all products of the imagination of the right?

OK, so lets change the thread title to "Latinx backfires on the media"

No clue what any of those links have to do with the Democratic Party.