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Anonymous wrote:I suspect Amazon is behind a lot of these smash and grab operations to keep people out of retail stores and to force shops to close.

If one of the ringleaders could be caught, all paths would lead to Bezos.

Yeah, it’s the Illuminati and Amazon.

You forgot the Russians

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Anonymous wrote:It’s crazy how people jump on the bandwagon for these, obviously less effective criminal justice laws, and then are shocked when their political party loses power as crime rises. Like shocked pikachu face how did I not know that ending policing in a violent neighborhood would result in a 30% murder increase? Or who knew taking shoplifting less than $1000 would only result in a misdemeanor would somehow spur a shoplifting crimewave?

This has me concerned because I am liberal. Not a progressive a moderate liberal.

What happens when republicans win and the pendulum swings the other way and there is a massive crack down on crime that disproportionately hits people…basically it’s hard to find a good policing middle ground, but this lax crap needs to stop.

Honest question though. Why is it considered a massive Republican crackdown when it is literally enforcing the law and protecting property rights? This is an opportunity to stop playing partisan games and identify bad policy and do something about it.

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It’s disgusting that caring about our laws and not wanting a business robbed or looted or people to be assaulted is apparently a “republican” idea now.

You might not like “stop and frisk”, and I think there’s a valid discussion to be had about that. But we’d better start cracking down hard on criminals or next year there’s gonna be a red wave like we’ve never seen before.

Bring back law enforcement and policing practices that lead to inherently unequal justice outcomes? Yea keep trying to reimpose this through fear-mongering.

Dude, California is seeing mobs of people looting stores day after day after day. It’s not fear-mongering when it’s actually happening.

You know what the definition of looting is. Here is a hint. It is not organized gangs breaking in to high end stores to steal things.

Can you clarify why you see this distinction as important?

There's definitely organized crime going on, whether gangs or otherwise. I recall a video from Chicago during the height of BLM protests, where someone at 2AM filmed an entire fleet of U-Hauls and a crew of around 20 people breaking in to and cleaning out a CVS store. Clearly organized and preplanned.

Why are people conflating police reform laws pertaining to petty crime with this kind of activity? These types of break in and stealing would be prosecuted as felonies including conspiracy charges.

Police reform laws in San Francisco, defunding police, no recruitment funds for new police, lax policies towards punishment = crime sprees:

"In January 2020, San Francisco’s new “progressive” district attorney, Chesa Boudin (a son of convicted cop killers), made decreasing penalties for nonviolent offenses a cornerstone of his agenda. He also crusaded to ban cash bail, reduce prison populations and pursue non-incarceration.

That year, while burglaries were down nationwide, they rose in San Francisco by 50 percent; motor-vehicle theft, up around 4 percent nationwide, shot up in San Francisco by 22 percent. As the petition for one of the two recall efforts against Boudin stated: “In 2020, violent crime, home invasions, rampant and unchecked drug dealing and business-property theft have turned our city upside down.”

Everyone goes toward greatest opportunity and least risk. Thieves flock to San Francisco, unconcerned by what amounts to the vague threat of a citation should they be detained — which is unlikely, as police make arrests in less than 3 percent of reported thefts, and these cases rarely get prosecuted."

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Anonymous wrote:It’s crazy how people jump on the bandwagon for these, obviously less effective criminal justice laws, and then are shocked when their political party loses power as crime rises. Like shocked pikachu face how did I not know that ending policing in a violent neighborhood would result in a 30% murder increase? Or who knew taking shoplifting less than $1000 would only result in a misdemeanor would somehow spur a shoplifting crimewave?

This has me concerned because I am liberal. Not a progressive a moderate liberal.

What happens when republicans win and the pendulum swings the other way and there is a massive crack down on crime that disproportionately hits people…basically it’s hard to find a good policing middle ground, but this lax crap needs to stop.

Honest question though. Why is it considered a massive Republican crackdown when it is literally enforcing the law and protecting property rights? This is an opportunity to stop playing partisan games and identify bad policy and do something about it.

+1

It’s disgusting that caring about our laws and not wanting a business robbed or looted or people to be assaulted is apparently a “republican” idea now.

You might not like “stop and frisk”, and I think there’s a valid discussion to be had about that. But we’d better start cracking down hard on criminals or next year there’s gonna be a red wave like we’ve never seen before.

Bring back law enforcement and policing practices that lead to inherently unequal justice outcomes? Yea keep trying to reimpose this through fear-mongering.

Dude, California is seeing mobs of people looting stores day after day after day. It’s not fear-mongering when it’s actually happening.

You know what the definition of looting is. Here is a hint. It is not organized gangs breaking in to high end stores to steal things.

Can you clarify why you see this distinction as important?

There's definitely organized crime going on, whether gangs or otherwise. I recall a video from Chicago during the height of BLM protests, where someone at 2AM filmed an entire fleet of U-Hauls and a crew of around 20 people breaking in to and cleaning out a CVS store. Clearly organized and preplanned.

Why are people conflating police reform laws pertaining to petty crime with this kind of activity? These types of break in and stealing would be prosecuted as felonies including conspiracy charges.

Anonymous wrote:Is the what democrats see as success?

Democrats think “success” is part of white supremacy. This is what they call equity.

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Anonymous wrote:SF has become such a hell hole. At what point does the local population give republican leadership a try?

Idk maybe when dilapidated, forgotten, barely any jobs left, drug ridden rural areas give Democrats a try? See how your argument makes sense?

DP. Funny. I haven’t heard reports of mass theft/looting in rural areas. Have you?

DP. No, just reports of a large number of opioid-related deaths.

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Anonymous wrote:SF has become such a hell hole. At what point does the local population give republican leadership a try?

Idk maybe when dilapidated, forgotten, barely any jobs left, drug ridden rural areas give Democrats a try? See how your argument makes sense?

DP. Funny. I haven’t heard reports of mass theft/looting in rural areas. Have you?

Yep, no Antifa in the cornfields of Iowa either because there's nothing but corn there.

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Anonymous wrote:SF has become such a hell hole. At what point does the local population give republican leadership a try?

Idk maybe when dilapidated, forgotten, barely any jobs left, drug ridden rural areas give Democrats a try? See how your argument makes sense?

DP. Funny. I haven’t heard reports of mass theft/looting in rural areas. Have you?

Because there's less to steal

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Anonymous wrote:SF has become such a hell hole. At what point does the local population give republican leadership a try?

Idk maybe when dilapidated, forgotten, barely any jobs left, drug ridden rural areas give Democrats a try? See how your argument makes sense?

DP. Funny. I haven’t heard reports of mass theft/looting in rural areas. Have you?

Nor in red states…..just the crap holes like Oregon, Washington, California and NY. Coincidence?

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Anonymous wrote:SF has become such a hell hole. At what point does the local population give republican leadership a try?

Idk maybe when dilapidated, forgotten, barely any jobs left, drug ridden rural areas give Democrats a try? See how your argument makes sense?

DP. Funny. I haven’t heard reports of mass theft/looting in rural areas. Have you?

Anonymous wrote:SF has become such a hell hole. At what point does the local population give republican leadership a try?

Idk maybe when dilapidated, forgotten, barely any jobs left, drug ridden rural areas give Democrats a try? See how your argument makes sense?

Is the what democrats see as success?

CA for you:

https://www.reddit.com/r/trashy/comments/r1inyx/small_local_store_in_oakland_robbed_last_night/

Go back & live there again. Be the change!

SF has become such a hell hole. At what point does the local population give republican leadership a try?

Anonymous wrote:I suspect Amazon is behind a lot of these smash and grab operations to keep people out of retail stores and to force shops to close.

If one of the ringleaders could be caught, all paths would lead to Bezos.

Your tinfoil hat is too tight.