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Anonymous wrote:The dress is great if you can pull off some Alessandro Michele for Gucci type vibe.

Do wear it if you like it for being fashionable. Don't choose it if you like it because it's cute and girly.

Of course DCUM hates it. Ladies here don't go for fun in fashion, nor for quirky.

DC definitely isn't a fashion-forward town, to put it mildly. That said, some self-proclaimed fashionable people are hypercritical of those who aren't, or at least don't understand that some of us are more interested in our own personal style, i.e., wearing clothes that flatter and feel true to us, than chasing trends. I mean, where what you want, but stop getting pissy because people don't appreciate how fashionable you are. That doesn't mean you're not fashionable, it just means that others have different priorities.

PP here. I gave no personal opinion, positive or negative, for the type of fashion DCUM does go for. You don't go for fun, quirky looks? Fine. But don't then get offended when someone states that you don't go for fun, quirky looks. Particularly is that statement is completely neutral in tone.

I should have been more clear; the "you" in the bolded wasn't directed at the "you" who made that comment, more at the collective fashionista "you" on this board that loves to scream "FRUMP" at women who don't prioritize fashion.

I wasn't offended, just observing that it's kind of a tiresome dynamic.

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DP. I'm not fashion forward but I'm happy to read discussions of fashion. I find it tiresome that every thread in the fashion forum fills up with posts from people patting themselves on the back for being unfashionable and offended by the concept of trend, with very little attention to the question at hand. This thread is a perfect example, the first six pages are mostly people piling on to insult OP's choice as juvenile and gross because...bows. It's not until the dress is presented in context, that posters notice it's a simple inoffensive party dress. (I'd go still further, I think the pink crepe may be just as innocuous, just can't find pictures of it in the wild.) Meanwhile, the less trendy alternatives posted really seem quite narrow in concept of how a woman should present herself. So does "I don't notice trends" really mean "I think for myself"? I'll say "no", and that's really why folks get labeled frumpy.

Exactly. Also, people may not choose to prioritize fashion, and that's their choice. But if they want to come in and berate people ABOUT fashion, you would think they would be somewhat familiar in the subject. For example, I dont wander into the home improvement section because I know nothing about screws, drills, wainscotting, etc. I would feel hopelessly lost in the aisles of a Lowe's or Home Depot, and I can recognize that and accordingly don't dole out advice as if I'm an expert.

But, women who are utterly unskilled and unknowledgeable in the realm of fashion or glamour come into this space and regularly give their (bad) advice about fashion. These same women would be hopelessly out of place in the aisles of Chanel of Louis Vuitton, and yet, every day they post their opinions as if theyre experts. It would be the equivalent of me going into the Home Improvement forum and constantly screaming at the people there that theyre doing it wrong and they need to redo the foundation in another way or they are drilling wrong, etc. It's stupid. And when someone engages in it, they are going to be called out.

And yes, the fact that DC is known as a very frumpy, unfashionable place does factor into everything.

Anonymous wrote:I don’t love it or hate it. I adore navy velvet so that learns me a little towards the navy version.
It’s funny everyone is saying it’s for flat chested women. I am flat chested and one thing I don’t like about it is that I feel like it would definitely accentuate how flat chested I am—the enormous bows would just be mocking my lack of boobs. I tend to like to dress to offset my physical deficiencies and I feel like this would lean into them too much. But i wouldn’t think it was ugly if someone else wore it.

Yeah, I think people are wrong on that account, and just can't see passed the models. The dress has darts under the bust, so it accommodates shape. A size 2 probably not a lot of shape, but just because they throw everything on tiny models doesn't mean it doesn't fit other people, too. OP was worried about the split, as long as it's worn with some ease, that shouldn't be a problem. It's certainly not a dress that should fit snuggly.

I don’t love it or hate it. I adore navy velvet so that learns me a little towards the navy version.
It’s funny everyone is saying it’s for flat chested women. I am flat chested and one thing I don’t like about it is that I feel like it would definitely accentuate how flat chested I am—the enormous bows would just be mocking my lack of boobs. I tend to like to dress to offset my physical deficiencies and I feel like this would lean into them too much. But i wouldn’t think it was ugly if someone else wore it.

Seven pages in and I still like it. I think it’s still my favorite of all options, and I think I like think more than the velvet versions. It’s a dress for someone who wants to be looked at, and the pink would make me smile the second I saw it. I think you should do it, OP. Those photos would be charming. This is a good year for a “wow, fun!” dress.

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Anonymous wrote:The dress is great if you can pull off some Alessandro Michele for Gucci type vibe.

Do wear it if you like it for being fashionable. Don't choose it if you like it because it's cute and girly.

Of course DCUM hates it. Ladies here don't go for fun in fashion, nor for quirky.

DC definitely isn't a fashion-forward town, to put it mildly. That said, some self-proclaimed fashionable people are hypercritical of those who aren't, or at least don't understand that some of us are more interested in our own personal style, i.e., wearing clothes that flatter and feel true to us, than chasing trends. I mean, where what you want, but stop getting pissy because people don't appreciate how fashionable you are. That doesn't mean you're not fashionable, it just means that others have different priorities.

PP here. I gave no personal opinion, positive or negative, for the type of fashion DCUM does go for. You don't go for fun, quirky looks? Fine. But don't then get offended when someone states that you don't go for fun, quirky looks. Particularly is that statement is completely neutral in tone.

I should have been more clear; the "you" in the bolded wasn't directed at the "you" who made that comment, more at the collective fashionista "you" on this board that loves to scream "FRUMP" at women who don't prioritize fashion.

I wasn't offended, just observing that it's kind of a tiresome dynamic.

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DP. I'm not fashion forward but I'm happy to read discussions of fashion. I find it tiresome that every thread in the fashion forum fills up with posts from people patting themselves on the back for being unfashionable and offended by the concept of trend, with very little attention to the question at hand. This thread is a perfect example, the first six pages are mostly people piling on to insult OP's choice as juvenile and gross because...bows. It's not until the dress is presented in context, that posters notice it's a simple inoffensive party dress. (I'd go still further, I think the pink crepe may be just as innocuous, just can't find pictures of it in the wild.) Meanwhile, the less trendy alternatives posted really seem quite narrow in concept of how a woman should present herself. So does "I don't notice trends" really mean "I think for myself"? I'll say "no", and that's really why folks get labeled frumpy.

So everyone who doesn't think for themselves is frumpy? That makes no logical sense.

The pink dress on its own is very different than the black velvet with green bows *in a Christmas context*. It's not the bows alone that I was reacting to, it was the color (and I love pink! but not this shade), the fabric, the cut.

Also, you're grossly overstating "unfashionable" PPs' level of offense.

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Anonymous wrote:So pretty. Dont listen to the homely and boring fraus on here, most of whom get their "fashion" from Costco. That is a GORGEOUS dress. The women on here dont have a glamorous bone in their bodies, most of them carry around 10 year old leather handbags from Target and consider that fashion forward. Go ahead and get it. You'll look fabulous.

You know that "frau" just means woman, right? It's not an insult. Unless you think being a woman is a bad thing.

Not the PP, but just because you can literally define something, does not mean you aren't being insulted. I'd assume the PP is using at short for house frau (mismatch intended)--the kind of gal who's style quotient would go up if issued an MCPS crossing guard uni. You know the type, quit playing dumb.

+1. And a good word for the women here, now that someone mentions it

Anonymous wrote:Are you petite (short AND v. thin) and completely flat-chested? If no to any of those, don't do it.

and young. Please be young. I can't imagine this on an older woman.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the designer wearing her own dress. She's known for day dresses, set out to create evening wear that's equally comfortable:

Well, this I think is gorgeous!!

So do I! I can't wear it because of the girls but I love that dress and would wear it if I could!

The velvet is a much better look than the pink one OP posted. That pink crepe just looks very cheap and unforgiving (although I guess if you need any forgiving this cut isn't for you anyway).

I agree. It is remarkable how the change in fabric made such a big difference. This is lovely!

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Anonymous wrote:The dress is great if you can pull off some Alessandro Michele for Gucci type vibe.

Do wear it if you like it for being fashionable. Don't choose it if you like it because it's cute and girly.

Of course DCUM hates it. Ladies here don't go for fun in fashion, nor for quirky.

DC definitely isn't a fashion-forward town, to put it mildly. That said, some self-proclaimed fashionable people are hypercritical of those who aren't, or at least don't understand that some of us are more interested in our own personal style, i.e., wearing clothes that flatter and feel true to us, than chasing trends. I mean, where what you want, but stop getting pissy because people don't appreciate how fashionable you are. That doesn't mean you're not fashionable, it just means that others have different priorities.

PP here. I gave no personal opinion, positive or negative, for the type of fashion DCUM does go for. You don't go for fun, quirky looks? Fine. But don't then get offended when someone states that you don't go for fun, quirky looks. Particularly is that statement is completely neutral in tone.

I should have been more clear; the "you" in the bolded wasn't directed at the "you" who made that comment, more at the collective fashionista "you" on this board that loves to scream "FRUMP" at women who don't prioritize fashion.

I wasn't offended, just observing that it's kind of a tiresome dynamic.

+1

DP. I'm not fashion forward but I'm happy to read discussions of fashion. I find it tiresome that every thread in the fashion forum fills up with posts from people patting themselves on the back for being unfashionable and offended by the concept of trend, with very little attention to the question at hand. This thread is a perfect example, the first six pages are mostly people piling on to insult OP's choice as juvenile and gross because...bows. It's not until the dress is presented in context, that posters notice it's a simple inoffensive party dress. (I'd go still further, I think the pink crepe may be just as innocuous, just can't find pictures of it in the wild.) Meanwhile, the less trendy alternatives posted really seem quite narrow in concept of how a woman should present herself. So does "I don't notice trends" really mean "I think for myself"? I'll say "no", and that's really why folks get labeled frumpy.

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Anonymous wrote:The dress is great if you can pull off some Alessandro Michele for Gucci type vibe.

Do wear it if you like it for being fashionable. Don't choose it if you like it because it's cute and girly.

Of course DCUM hates it. Ladies here don't go for fun in fashion, nor for quirky.

DC definitely isn't a fashion-forward town, to put it mildly. That said, some self-proclaimed fashionable people are hypercritical of those who aren't, or at least don't understand that some of us are more interested in our own personal style, i.e., wearing clothes that flatter and feel true to us, than chasing trends. I mean, where what you want, but stop getting pissy because people don't appreciate how fashionable you are. That doesn't mean you're not fashionable, it just means that others have different priorities.

PP here. I gave no personal opinion, positive or negative, for the type of fashion DCUM does go for. You don't go for fun, quirky looks? Fine. But don't then get offended when someone states that you don't go for fun, quirky looks. Particularly is that statement is completely neutral in tone.

I should have been more clear; the "you" in the bolded wasn't directed at the "you" who made that comment, more at the collective fashionista "you" on this board that loves to scream "FRUMP" at women who don't prioritize fashion.

I wasn't offended, just observing that it's kind of a tiresome dynamic.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:The dress is great if you can pull off some Alessandro Michele for Gucci type vibe.

Do wear it if you like it for being fashionable. Don't choose it if you like it because it's cute and girly.

Of course DCUM hates it. Ladies here don't go for fun in fashion, nor for quirky.

DC definitely isn't a fashion-forward town, to put it mildly. That said, some self-proclaimed fashionable people are hypercritical of those who aren't, or at least don't understand that some of us are more interested in our own personal style, i.e., wearing clothes that flatter and feel true to us, than chasing trends. I mean, where what you want, but stop getting pissy because people don't appreciate how fashionable you are. That doesn't mean you're not fashionable, it just means that others have different priorities.

PP here. I gave no personal opinion, positive or negative, for the type of fashion DCUM does go for. You don't go for fun, quirky looks? Fine. But don't then get offended when someone states that you don't go for fun, quirky looks. Particularly is that statement is completely neutral in tone.

I should have been more clear; the "you" in the bolded wasn't directed at the "you" who made that comment, more at the collective fashionista "you" on this board that loves to scream "FRUMP" at women who don't prioritize fashion.

I wasn't offended, just observing that it's kind of a tiresome dynamic.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the designer wearing her own dress. She's known for day dresses, set out to create evening wear that's equally comfortable:

Well, this I think is gorgeous!!

So do I! I can't wear it because of the girls but I love that dress and would wear it if I could!

The velvet is a much better look than the pink one OP posted. That pink crepe just looks very cheap and unforgiving (although I guess if you need any forgiving this cut isn't for you anyway).

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the designer wearing her own dress. She's known for day dresses, set out to create evening wear that's equally comfortable:

Well, this I think is gorgeous!!

So do I! I can't wear it because of the girls but I love that dress and would wear it if I could!

Anonymous wrote:Here's the designer wearing her own dress. She's known for day dresses, set out to create evening wear that's equally comfortable:

Oh I love this - now I am fully on board. She looks fantastic.

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Anonymous wrote:I really like the dress in this color - https://www.matchesfashion.com/us/products/1421621?qxjkl=tsid:38929|cgn:*2nGiS3mv0Y&c3ch=LinkShare&c3nid=*2nGiS3mv0Y&utm_source=linkshare&utm_medium=affiliation&utm_campaign=us&utm_content=*2nGiS3mv0Y&rffrid=aff.linkshare.3096943.37420#product-measurements

+1 if OP isn’t dark skinned. And it’s almost $400 cheaper!

I guess I'm in the minority, but I did like the pink one and think at 5'6" 120 you could pull it off, so long as you are an A/B cup. My gripe would be the poly fabric. BUT, this navy velvet one is even better! Plus a lot less...because, really, where else can you wear a dress like this other than holiday events. The navy one is more festive (love velvet) and a good price. Get it!

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