Anonymous
Post 11/09/2021 15:07     Subject: Your Holiday Table

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Anonymous wrote:I think fancy tables, China, crystal and WINE are what I miss most about thanksgivings. I grew up with them fancy. We even changed into fancier clothes for dinner. My in-laws is on card tables, paper plates. People roll from the football game to dinner. No one drinks


Why don't you host? Why don't you rotate holidays so that sometimes you are with your family? I'd bring my own wine unless there was an alcoholic in the company.


We have had our own thanksgiving once but in-laws didn’t come so we didn’t actually host. I don’t get enough leave to take off around thanksgiving to travel to my hometown. I’ve brought wine, but it usually not served. Or one year I opened it and put it on the table myself. And then everyone who doesn’t drink at all took a glass and I didn’t get more than 2oz. They even commented on how nasty wine was.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2021 15:01     Subject: Re:Your Holiday Table

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Anonymous wrote:I am shocked at the number of people who don’t understand that a plated sit-down dinner doesn’t necessarily include green bean casserole. Or multi-main courses. Or 30 side dishes. I suppose it could, but there are a lot of assumptions about other people’s holiday traditions and why they are “rude” or wrong.


DP...I don't want to be part of a Thanksgiving dinner that doesn't include tons of side dishes. No thanks, I go to plenty of upscale meals and catered affairs throughout the year. Twice a year, I want a meal to be purely homey and nostalgic.


Great. Nobody is making you. It doesn’t mean families who do it differently are wrong. And I hope you’re the one doing the cooking with an attitude like that.


I am responding to how "shocked" you are that people "don't understand" that Thanksgiving can be a formal, plated meal without tons of delicious, homey sides. I *understand* that...I just don't want that. I'm "shocked" that you "don't understand" that some people would never want that kind of meal on a holiday.



I think we're just "shocked" that you are so rude and that you're so unwilling to concede that others may have different practices. Perhaps (I am being generous using this word because I am trying to stay in the spirit of the season) you are different in real life but posting here you come across as a judgmental ignoramus. I also am completely "shocked" that you have anyone who is willing to invite you to their house.

DP.


DP, who has read the back and forth (why, I don't know). I think it's likely relatively unusual to plate Thanksgiving dinner and that, coupled with more than a little haughtiness from the chef, is what's setting people off. There's this "how can you not know that I serve a gourmet, plated, Thanksgiving meal!?!" attitude that's very off-putting.

And really, no one called the chef PP directly rude, it was a generic comment about plating, and s/he took personal offense and can't let go. It's strange.


I don’t think it’s the same person on the thread bc I’m not the chef and I’ve made a few posts in defense of him or her. But I agree the idea of plating has really set a lot of people off for whatever reason.


I also have made some posts in defense of the chef. I really think it is just one person who has gone postal though about the plating. Whoever it is needs help. Everyone else seems to be going with the flow.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2021 15:01     Subject: Your Holiday Table

Anonymous wrote:I think fancy tables, China, crystal and WINE are what I miss most about thanksgivings. I grew up with them fancy. We even changed into fancier clothes for dinner. My in-laws is on card tables, paper plates. People roll from the football game to dinner. No one drinks


Why don't you host? Why don't you rotate holidays so that sometimes you are with your family? I'd bring my own wine unless there was an alcoholic in the company.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2021 14:59     Subject: Re:Your Holiday Table

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like for many people Thanksgiving is about someone serving them an all-you-can-eat buffet, without any food touching, and without any regard to the person who cooked all day. Are you people five?


In my family, there is no one person who "cooked all day." Let me guess: in your family, one woman does it all? Nope! In my family, we all make or bring dishes, in addition to the hosts, as in I cook *and so does my husband.*

So our family collectively makes a feast, and then we all help ourselves to whatever we want, however we want it, in what quantity we please, with no observation or judgment from the hosts.


Nope. Not a woman. A male family member does the entire meal and enjoys it. Sorry to disappoint you in your gleeful attempt at stereotyping Internet strangers. But I have cooked it all myself in the past and I’m a woman. No, I didn’t feel victimized, my parents are elderly and I cooked for them and their friends a few years. No, I didn’t ask their friends to bring food.


Well done, PP. I appreciate it. I was gearing up to do it and saw you had already taken care of the snarky one. Thank you! DP.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2021 14:56     Subject: Your Holiday Table

I think fancy tables, China, crystal and WINE are what I miss most about thanksgivings. I grew up with them fancy. We even changed into fancier clothes for dinner. My in-laws is on card tables, paper plates. People roll from the football game to dinner. No one drinks
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2021 14:49     Subject: Re:Your Holiday Table

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Anonymous wrote:Y'all people out here plating food for your guests, are you asking them what they want and how much of each thing? White meat vs dark meat? Gravy all over everything or just in a little hole in the mashed potatoes?

As for "presentation" of the food, can't you present it on platters where your guests can then fill their plates from?


I ask white or dark and if folks want some of everything. I don’t ask how much of everything, I eyeball a serving and have enough for seconds or thirds. Gravy boat is placed on the table and passed. Everyone always wants to try everything but we are an easygoing crew.


So easygoing that you must control what and how much your guests eat?


They can eat as much as they want. We make plenty and everyone usually has a few things they want more of after trying it. They are all sitting around enjoying the wine and company too much to ask me to measure out specific amounts of each item I suppose? We are a close family, I have to admit I don’t understand all these suggestions that making a plate is about controlling someone or showing off.


No, they can't eat as much as they want; they are simply too polite to protest. Instead of getting what they want--double serving of stuffing and no mashed potatoes, or no stuffing and just a little mashed potatoes and no gravy and fill up the plate with healthier things--they are smiling to be polite. Because you are controlling and showing off.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2021 14:47     Subject: Re:Your Holiday Table

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Anonymous wrote:Y'all people out here plating food for your guests, are you asking them what they want and how much of each thing? White meat vs dark meat? Gravy all over everything or just in a little hole in the mashed potatoes?

As for "presentation" of the food, can't you present it on platters where your guests can then fill their plates from?


I ask white or dark and if folks want some of everything. I don’t ask how much of everything, I eyeball a serving and have enough for seconds or thirds. Gravy boat is placed on the table and passed. Everyone always wants to try everything but we are an easygoing crew.


So easygoing that you must control what and how much your guests eat?


They can eat as much as they want. We make plenty and everyone usually has a few things they want more of after trying it. They are all sitting around enjoying the wine and company too much to ask me to measure out specific amounts of each item I suppose? We are a close family, I have to admit I don’t understand all these suggestions that making a plate is about controlling someone or showing off.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2021 14:42     Subject: Re:Your Holiday Table

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Y'all people out here plating food for your guests, are you asking them what they want and how much of each thing? White meat vs dark meat? Gravy all over everything or just in a little hole in the mashed potatoes?

As for "presentation" of the food, can't you present it on platters where your guests can then fill their plates from?


I ask white or dark and if folks want some of everything. I don’t ask how much of everything, I eyeball a serving and have enough for seconds or thirds. Gravy boat is placed on the table and passed. Everyone always wants to try everything but we are an easygoing crew.


So easygoing that you must control what and how much your guests eat?
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2021 14:40     Subject: Re:Your Holiday Table

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It sounds like for many people Thanksgiving is about someone serving them an all-you-can-eat buffet, without any food touching, and without any regard to the person who cooked all day. Are you people five?


In my family, there is no one person who "cooked all day." Let me guess: in your family, one woman does it all? Nope! In my family, we all make or bring dishes, in addition to the hosts, as in I cook *and so does my husband.*

So our family collectively makes a feast, and then we all help ourselves to whatever we want, however we want it, in what quantity we please, with no observation or judgment from the hosts.


Nope. Not a woman. A male family member does the entire meal and enjoys it. Sorry to disappoint you in your gleeful attempt at stereotyping Internet strangers. But I have cooked it all myself in the past and I’m a woman. No, I didn’t feel victimized, my parents are elderly and I cooked for them and their friends a few years. No, I didn’t ask their friends to bring food.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2021 14:36     Subject: Re:Your Holiday Table

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like for many people Thanksgiving is about someone serving them an all-you-can-eat buffet, without any food touching, and without any regard to the person who cooked all day. Are you people five?


In my family, there is no one person who "cooked all day." Let me guess: in your family, one woman does it all? Nope! In my family, we all make or bring dishes, in addition to the hosts, as in I cook *and so does my husband.*

So our family collectively makes a feast, and then we all help ourselves to whatever we want, however we want it, in what quantity we please, with no observation or judgment from the hosts.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2021 14:32     Subject: Your Holiday Table

Anonymous wrote:Do you set your holiday table with a nice centerpiece, linens, china, crystal, and sterling silver place settings? Or are you more casual?


So back to the question…

I order or assemble a floral or other botanical centerpiece, and I use china and cloth napkins. I don’t use other table linens bc I hate ironing them and I’m not organized enough to send them out to be cleaned and pressed. No to silver but I think my mom is ready to pare down her sterling place settings so maybe next year. We use the silverware from my spouse’s first apartment that’s missing most of the teaspoons 😂.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2021 13:36     Subject: Re:Your Holiday Table

Anonymous wrote:Y'all people out here plating food for your guests, are you asking them what they want and how much of each thing? White meat vs dark meat? Gravy all over everything or just in a little hole in the mashed potatoes?

As for "presentation" of the food, can't you present it on platters where your guests can then fill their plates from?


I ask white or dark and if folks want some of everything. I don’t ask how much of everything, I eyeball a serving and have enough for seconds or thirds. Gravy boat is placed on the table and passed. Everyone always wants to try everything but we are an easygoing crew.
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2021 13:19     Subject: Re:Your Holiday Table

Y'all people out here plating food for your guests, are you asking them what they want and how much of each thing? White meat vs dark meat? Gravy all over everything or just in a little hole in the mashed potatoes?

As for "presentation" of the food, can't you present it on platters where your guests can then fill their plates from?
Anonymous
Post 11/09/2021 13:06     Subject: Your Holiday Table

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Anonymous wrote:Can we stop arguing about the chef who plates the meal? Let’s talk about OP’s question.


Amen. Because so far all I’ve learned from this thread is that if I really hate someone, I should invite them over for Thanksgiving dinner and present their food on a plate.


Anonymous
Post 11/09/2021 13:02     Subject: Your Holiday Table

Anonymous wrote:Can we stop arguing about the chef who plates the meal? Let’s talk about OP’s question.


Amen. Because so far all I’ve learned from this thread is that if I really hate someone, I should invite them over for Thanksgiving dinner and present their food on a plate.