Anonymous
10/20/2021 17:12
Subject: Arlington Soccer Leadership email 10/15
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would ECNL want a second team in Loudon? They already have Loudon itself and McLean right there too.
Because of the market, if Barca, VRSC, FCV were able to attract players it means that there is a market. Does it make sense? Pull the players of these teams together and they’d make a bigger pool than Loudoun and McLean.
It remains to be seen if VRSC can attract ECNL caliber players
ECNL clubs attract ECNL caliber players.
Then why brother trading BRYC for revolution?
If you believe ECNL clubs attract ECNL caliber players then it is obvious that the problem with BRYC is organizational. It becomes a viscous cycle. You either can't coach and develop the talent you select or you can't select the right talent. Being completely unsuccessful at moving the needle in a positive direction regarding results it then becomes impossible to attract outside talent. Organizationally they haven't been aggressive even though they are sinking. Where are the mergers, the partnerships that can bring in new players and coaches? Where are the outside coach hires that always come with their players?
FCV treats local clubs like they are on Tinder in order to keep talent coming in. McLean partnered with SYC. SYA and CYA merged. VDA is built exclusively on a partnership. Metro has partner clubs. Great Falls and Reston merged. What has BRYC done organizationally to improve itself?
VA Revolution on the other hand has been both bold and ruthless. The sad thing is BRYC was a storied club in the region and now it is just a shell of itself.
That bold and ruthless club has zero good teams. They have proven that they can purchase a property that no one else wants and nothing else.
That point was already covered regarding leagues accepting clubs based on performance and potential.
But lets look at it from another perspective. BRYC currently has 2 aging out teams ranked in the top ten in the state. Now another club that is younger than 5 years has three young teams currently ranked in the top ten in the state. Do you think that new club shows promise and should be considered for ECNL over BRYC?
No. For example, their top U9-U11B and U11G teams aren't even in the top NCSL groupings. Their top U12G team is bottom half of NCSL division 2, so not even in D1. Their top U13G team is mid-table in NCSL D1.
Why are you looking at girls soccer?
Anonymous
10/20/2021 17:07
Subject: Arlington Soccer Leadership email 10/15
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would ECNL want a second team in Loudon? They already have Loudon itself and McLean right there too.
Because of the market, if Barca, VRSC, FCV were able to attract players it means that there is a market. Does it make sense? Pull the players of these teams together and they’d make a bigger pool than Loudoun and McLean.
It remains to be seen if VRSC can attract ECNL caliber players
ECNL clubs attract ECNL caliber players.
Then why brother trading BRYC for revolution?
If you believe ECNL clubs attract ECNL caliber players then it is obvious that the problem with BRYC is organizational. It becomes a viscous cycle. You either can't coach and develop the talent you select or you can't select the right talent. Being completely unsuccessful at moving the needle in a positive direction regarding results it then becomes impossible to attract outside talent. Organizationally they haven't been aggressive even though they are sinking. Where are the mergers, the partnerships that can bring in new players and coaches? Where are the outside coach hires that always come with their players?
FCV treats local clubs like they are on Tinder in order to keep talent coming in. McLean partnered with SYC. SYA and CYA merged. VDA is built exclusively on a partnership. Metro has partner clubs. Great Falls and Reston merged. What has BRYC done organizationally to improve itself?
VA Revolution on the other hand has been both bold and ruthless. The sad thing is BRYC was a storied club in the region and now it is just a shell of itself.
That bold and ruthless club has zero good teams. They have proven that they can purchase a property that no one else wants and nothing else.
That point was already covered regarding leagues accepting clubs based on performance and potential.
But lets look at it from another perspective. BRYC currently has 2 aging out teams ranked in the top ten in the state. Now another club that is younger than 5 years has three young teams currently ranked in the top ten in the state. Do you think that new club shows promise and should be considered for ECNL over BRYC?
No. For example, their top U9-U11B and U11G teams aren't even in the top NCSL groupings. Their top U12G team is bottom half of NCSL division 2, so not even in D1. Their top U13G team is mid-table in NCSL D1.
Anonymous
10/20/2021 17:02
Subject: Arlington Soccer Leadership email 10/15
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would ECNL want a second team in Loudon? They already have Loudon itself and McLean right there too.
Because of the market, if Barca, VRSC, FCV were able to attract players it means that there is a market. Does it make sense? Pull the players of these teams together and they’d make a bigger pool than Loudoun and McLean.
It remains to be seen if VRSC can attract ECNL caliber players
ECNL clubs attract ECNL caliber players.
Then why brother trading BRYC for revolution?
If you believe ECNL clubs attract ECNL caliber players then it is obvious that the problem with BRYC is organizational. It becomes a viscous cycle. You either can't coach and develop the talent you select or you can't select the right talent. Being completely unsuccessful at moving the needle in a positive direction regarding results it then becomes impossible to attract outside talent. Organizationally they haven't been aggressive even though they are sinking. Where are the mergers, the partnerships that can bring in new players and coaches? Where are the outside coach hires that always come with their players?
FCV treats local clubs like they are on Tinder in order to keep talent coming in. McLean partnered with SYC. SYA and CYA merged. VDA is built exclusively on a partnership. Metro has partner clubs. Great Falls and Reston merged. What has BRYC done organizationally to improve itself?
VA Revolution on the other hand has been both bold and ruthless. The sad thing is BRYC was a storied club in the region and now it is just a shell of itself.
And their top teams and second teams can barely compete against BRYC bridge teams.
Fall 2021
09G 1-0 Bridge
08B 0-4 Bridge
Spring 2021
10G 0-7 Bridge Phoenix
10G 1-0 Composite (aka a year younger)
09G 1-3 Bridge
09G 4-0 Composite (aka a year younger)
07G 2-0 Composite
07G 1-0 Bridge
07G Gold 0-1 Composite
05G 1-0 and 3-2 Bridge
09B Gold 2-4 Bridge
08B Gold 1-2 Bridge
07B 0-0 Academy non-ECNL
Anonymous
10/20/2021 16:50
Subject: Arlington Soccer Leadership email 10/15
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would ECNL want a second team in Loudon? They already have Loudon itself and McLean right there too.
Because of the market, if Barca, VRSC, FCV were able to attract players it means that there is a market. Does it make sense? Pull the players of these teams together and they’d make a bigger pool than Loudoun and McLean.
It remains to be seen if VRSC can attract ECNL caliber players
ECNL clubs attract ECNL caliber players.
Then why brother trading BRYC for revolution?
If you believe ECNL clubs attract ECNL caliber players then it is obvious that the problem with BRYC is organizational. It becomes a viscous cycle. You either can't coach and develop the talent you select or you can't select the right talent. Being completely unsuccessful at moving the needle in a positive direction regarding results it then becomes impossible to attract outside talent. Organizationally they haven't been aggressive even though they are sinking. Where are the mergers, the partnerships that can bring in new players and coaches? Where are the outside coach hires that always come with their players?
FCV treats local clubs like they are on Tinder in order to keep talent coming in. McLean partnered with SYC. SYA and CYA merged. VDA is built exclusively on a partnership. Metro has partner clubs. Great Falls and Reston merged. What has BRYC done organizationally to improve itself?
VA Revolution on the other hand has been both bold and ruthless. The sad thing is BRYC was a storied club in the region and now it is just a shell of itself.
That bold and ruthless club has zero good teams. They have proven that they can purchase a property that no one else wants and nothing else.
That point was already covered regarding leagues accepting clubs based on performance and potential.
But lets look at it from another perspective. BRYC currently has 2 aging out teams ranked in the top ten in the state. Now another club that is younger than 5 years has three young teams currently ranked in the top ten in the state. Do you think that new club shows promise and should be considered for ECNL over BRYC?
Anonymous
10/20/2021 16:29
Subject: Arlington Soccer Leadership email 10/15
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would ECNL want a second team in Loudon? They already have Loudon itself and McLean right there too.
Because of the market, if Barca, VRSC, FCV were able to attract players it means that there is a market. Does it make sense? Pull the players of these teams together and they’d make a bigger pool than Loudoun and McLean.
It remains to be seen if VRSC can attract ECNL caliber players
ECNL clubs attract ECNL caliber players.
Then why brother trading BRYC for revolution?
If you believe ECNL clubs attract ECNL caliber players then it is obvious that the problem with BRYC is organizational. It becomes a viscous cycle. You either can't coach and develop the talent you select or you can't select the right talent. Being completely unsuccessful at moving the needle in a positive direction regarding results it then becomes impossible to attract outside talent. Organizationally they haven't been aggressive even though they are sinking. Where are the mergers, the partnerships that can bring in new players and coaches? Where are the outside coach hires that always come with their players?
FCV treats local clubs like they are on Tinder in order to keep talent coming in. McLean partnered with SYC. SYA and CYA merged. VDA is built exclusively on a partnership. Metro has partner clubs. Great Falls and Reston merged. What has BRYC done organizationally to improve itself?
VA Revolution on the other hand has been both bold and ruthless. The sad thing is BRYC was a storied club in the region and now it is just a shell of itself.
That bold and ruthless club has zero good teams. They have proven that they can purchase a property that no one else wants and nothing else.
Anonymous
10/20/2021 16:25
Subject: Arlington Soccer Leadership email 10/15
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would ECNL want a second team in Loudon? They already have Loudon itself and McLean right there too.
Because of the market, if Barca, VRSC, FCV were able to attract players it means that there is a market. Does it make sense? Pull the players of these teams together and they’d make a bigger pool than Loudoun and McLean.
It remains to be seen if VRSC can attract ECNL caliber players
ECNL clubs attract ECNL caliber players.
Then why brother trading BRYC for revolution?
If you believe ECNL clubs attract ECNL caliber players then it is obvious that the problem with BRYC is organizational. It becomes a viscous cycle. You either can't coach and develop the talent you select or you can't select the right talent. Being completely unsuccessful at moving the needle in a positive direction regarding results it then becomes impossible to attract outside talent. Organizationally they haven't been aggressive even though they are sinking. Where are the mergers, the partnerships that can bring in new players and coaches? Where are the outside coach hires that always come with their players?
FCV treats local clubs like they are on Tinder in order to keep talent coming in. McLean partnered with SYC. SYA and CYA merged. VDA is built exclusively on a partnership. Metro has partner clubs. Great Falls and Reston merged. What has BRYC done organizationally to improve itself?
VA Revolution on the other hand has been both bold and ruthless. The sad thing is BRYC was a storied club in the region and now it is just a shell of itself.
Anonymous
10/20/2021 16:08
Subject: Arlington Soccer Leadership email 10/15
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would ECNL want a second team in Loudon? They already have Loudon itself and McLean right there too.
Because of the market, if Barca, VRSC, FCV were able to attract players it means that there is a market. Does it make sense? Pull the players of these teams together and they’d make a bigger pool than Loudoun and McLean.
It remains to be seen if VRSC can attract ECNL caliber players
ECNL clubs attract ECNL caliber players.
Then why brother trading BRYC for revolution?
Anonymous
10/20/2021 16:07
Subject: Arlington Soccer Leadership email 10/15
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would ECNL want a second team in Loudon? They already have Loudon itself and McLean right there too.
Because of the market, if Barca, VRSC, FCV were able to attract players it means that there is a market. Does it make sense? Pull the players of these teams together and they’d make a bigger pool than Loudoun and McLean.
It remains to be seen if VRSC can attract ECNL caliber players
ECNL clubs attract ECNL caliber players.
Anonymous
10/20/2021 15:50
Subject: Arlington Soccer Leadership email 10/15
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I seriously doubt ECNL expands anytime soon. They were created to avoid a watered down league and now they are trending in that direction. If the do expand, I would expect them to look at successful ECNL-R clubs long before they look at unsuccessful NCSL clubs. Right now, they already seem like they are getting watered down in this area, so adding a second club centered around Loudon County make no sense. With the same player pool, their existing club in the area isn't successful; why would they water it down even more?
What's to stop Revolution from becoming a ECNL R club? Seems to be a low bar of entry. The current NOVA crop of ECNL R teams are already either just B teams and mediocre NPL clubs anyway. Villarreal's top teams are in ECNL R and they are terrible across the board on both Boys and Girls side. Are you suggesting that VA Revolution can't match that level of performance?
Revolution has a long way to go filling out their teams before any league discussions can be started. They mostly have just 1 team per age group, especially on the girls side, and even those teams are pretty sparse with mixed birth years. Recruiting enough players in a crowded market like Loudoun is not easy and certainly not a given. Ask Barca how easy it is to recruit enough girls in Loudoun to have healthy teams, or ask FCV how easy it is to recruit boys. Or Leesburg FC or Evergreen FC for that matter. There have been plenty of upstart clubs in Loudoun over the years with mixed results.
Anonymous
10/20/2021 15:26
Subject: Arlington Soccer Leadership email 10/15
Anonymous wrote:I seriously doubt ECNL expands anytime soon. They were created to avoid a watered down league and now they are trending in that direction. If the do expand, I would expect them to look at successful ECNL-R clubs long before they look at unsuccessful NCSL clubs. Right now, they already seem like they are getting watered down in this area, so adding a second club centered around Loudon County make no sense. With the same player pool, their existing club in the area isn't successful; why would they water it down even more?
What's to stop Revolution from becoming a ECNL R club? Seems to be a low bar of entry. The current NOVA crop of ECNL R teams are already either just B teams and mediocre NPL clubs anyway. Villarreal's top teams are in ECNL R and they are terrible across the board on both Boys and Girls side. Are you suggesting that VA Revolution can't match that level of performance?
Anonymous
10/20/2021 15:22
Subject: Arlington Soccer Leadership email 10/15
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would ECNL want a second team in Loudon? They already have Loudon itself and McLean right there too.
Because of the market, if Barca, VRSC, FCV were able to attract players it means that there is a market. Does it make sense? Pull the players of these teams together and they’d make a bigger pool than Loudoun and McLean.
There is no combining those 3 clubs, there is only kicking them out of your backyard and then let the market adjust.
Anonymous
10/20/2021 15:22
Subject: Arlington Soccer Leadership email 10/15
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would ECNL want a second team in Loudon? They already have Loudon itself and McLean right there too.
Because of the market, if Barca, VRSC, FCV were able to attract players it means that there is a market. Does it make sense? Pull the players of these teams together and they’d make a bigger pool than Loudoun and McLean.
It remains to be seen if VRSC can attract ECNL caliber players
Anonymous
10/20/2021 15:21
Subject: Arlington Soccer Leadership email 10/15
Anonymous wrote:Another theory could be VRSC taking over or merging FCV. ?
That would require VA Revolution to buy The St. James.
Nobody is "taking over FCV". They would have to either buy FCV from TSJ or buy TSJ outright.
Anonymous
10/20/2021 15:15
Subject: Arlington Soccer Leadership email 10/15
Anonymous wrote:Why would ECNL want a second team in Loudon? They already have Loudon itself and McLean right there too.
Because of the market, if Barca, VRSC, FCV were able to attract players it means that there is a market. Does it make sense? Pull the players of these teams together and they’d make a bigger pool than Loudoun and McLean.
Anonymous
10/20/2021 15:12
Subject: Arlington Soccer Leadership email 10/15
Why would ECNL want a second team in Loudon? They already have Loudon itself and McLean right there too.