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Anonymous wrote:Fake anything. No vinyl siding, give me wood. No faux stone or any of that crap. Either make it with cheap materials but play to the qualities of those, or use the real thing. It’s so gross.

Isn't the insurance higher for exterior wood paneling due to it being a fire hazard? Also, I haven't seen wood siding in this area; what neighborhoods have it?

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Anonymous wrote:The benefit to step-downs is a higher overall ceiling height, so there is a benefit. It also provides a separation of space in cases where floor plans are open, which is probably why you see it more starting in the 70s into the 80s when floor plans opened up a lot.

Fair point about the ceiling height, though I'd argue that an extra foot is not really doing much. I'm short though, so maybe it's more of a benefit for tall people? As for separation, the ones I've seen are still pretty integrated with the rest of the house in a way that should just flow, but can't because of the step.

Then you haven’t had a sunken living room. Maybe it’s only a foot, but it feels like 3 or more somehow. If you don’t have an open floor plan (we don’t, I hate them, pandemic proved me right ), then the con isn’t there, and the pros are many: separates the space, elevates the height, allows for enormous christmas tree, allows for dramatic tall cabinets, and at least in our house, is set apart by a back way with three sets of custom french doors that wouldn’t work without the height. So…we like it.

Every sunken living room I've seen is next to a dining room and if it weren't sunken, you'd be able to expand a table into the living room for Thanksgiving and large dinner parties, but you can't, because there's a step.
Maybe I'd appreciate the extra height for the 3 weeks of the year I had a Christmas tree if I celebrated Christmas? I suppose we'll never know, because I'm still walking out of any house with a sunken room.

How many people have large dinner parties that involve making a single table much larger (and have the piece to do it) and don't already have a large enough dining room? I understand your concern, but I'm guessing it applies to maybe 100 people max.

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Anonymous wrote:The benefit to step-downs is a higher overall ceiling height, so there is a benefit. It also provides a separation of space in cases where floor plans are open, which is probably why you see it more starting in the 70s into the 80s when floor plans opened up a lot.

Fair point about the ceiling height, though I'd argue that an extra foot is not really doing much. I'm short though, so maybe it's more of a benefit for tall people? As for separation, the ones I've seen are still pretty integrated with the rest of the house in a way that should just flow, but can't because of the step.

Then you haven’t had a sunken living room. Maybe it’s only a foot, but it feels like 3 or more somehow. If you don’t have an open floor plan (we don’t, I hate them, pandemic proved me right ), then the con isn’t there, and the pros are many: separates the space, elevates the height, allows for enormous christmas tree, allows for dramatic tall cabinets, and at least in our house, is set apart by a back way with three sets of custom french doors that wouldn’t work without the height. So…we like it.

Every sunken living room I've seen is next to a dining room and if it weren't sunken, you'd be able to expand a table into the living room for Thanksgiving and large dinner parties, but you can't, because there's a step.
Maybe I'd appreciate the extra height for the 3 weeks of the year I had a Christmas tree if I celebrated Christmas? I suppose we'll never know, because I'm still walking out of any house with a sunken room.

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Anonymous wrote:The benefit to step-downs is a higher overall ceiling height, so there is a benefit. It also provides a separation of space in cases where floor plans are open, which is probably why you see it more starting in the 70s into the 80s when floor plans opened up a lot.

Fair point about the ceiling height, though I'd argue that an extra foot is not really doing much. I'm short though, so maybe it's more of a benefit for tall people? As for separation, the ones I've seen are still pretty integrated with the rest of the house in a way that should just flow, but can't because of the step.

Then you haven’t had a sunken living room. Maybe it’s only a foot, but it feels like 3 or more somehow. If you don’t have an open floor plan (we don’t, I hate them, pandemic proved me right ), then the con isn’t there, and the pros are many: separates the space, elevates the height, allows for enormous christmas tree, allows for dramatic tall cabinets, and at least in our house, is set apart by a back way with three sets of custom french doors that wouldn’t work without the height. So…we like it.

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Anonymous wrote:Things that are fixable are not deal breakers for me, so long as it's my budget to fix over time. Location can't be changed - so for me it's a thoroughfare. But even more important that that is living on toxic land - I'm talking about you Spring Valley. I used to own a home there (18 years ago), and to this day it's one of my biggest regrets. Yes we made a killing when we sold, but I also have a DS with significant learning challenges that I relate directly back to living in that house, on that land and drinking that water when he was an infant. I also developed two random autoimmune conditions right after we moved. Could they all be coincidental? Yes I suppose so, but I also believe strongly that there's a link.

I’m sorry to hear about your experiences living in Spring Valley. I agree … the two people I know who live there got sick. One died in middle age, the other beat one form of cancer and developed a second. Both relatively young.

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Anonymous wrote:Things that are fixable are not deal breakers for me, so long as it's my budget to fix over time. Location can't be changed - so for me it's a thoroughfare. But even more important that that is living on toxic land - I'm talking about you Spring Valley. I used to own a home there (18 years ago), and to this day it's one of my biggest regrets. Yes we made a killing when we sold, but I also have a DS with significant learning challenges that I relate directly back to living in that house, on that land and drinking that water when he was an infant. I also developed two random autoimmune conditions right after we moved. Could they all be coincidental? Yes I suppose so, but I also believe strongly that there's a link.

wow. i was thinking about Mantua but I guess that's a hard no.

What or where is Mantua?

NP, but Mantua is a wealthy area of Fairfax County just outside the beltway. Part of Mantua is next to an oil tank farm and in the 1990s there was a leak that flooded a neighborhood. More here: https://washingtoncitypaper.com/article/285632/crude-awakening/
Related: neighborhoods without sidewalks and curbs are a big no for me and living next to petroleum reserves would also be unappealing.

That was a very long time ago and only impacted two streets. Since then, they’ve testing the soil and water. If you have a problem with Mantua, you probably should a problem with a majority of Arlington and Alexandria neighborhoods.

My problem with Mantua is mostly the lack of sidewalks and curbs. Just giving context about the petroleum spill given the earlier thread.

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Anonymous wrote:The benefit to step-downs is a higher overall ceiling height, so there is a benefit. It also provides a separation of space in cases where floor plans are open, which is probably why you see it more starting in the 70s into the 80s when floor plans opened up a lot.

Fair point about the ceiling height, though I'd argue that an extra foot is not really doing much. I'm short though, so maybe it's more of a benefit for tall people? As for separation, the ones I've seen are still pretty integrated with the rest of the house in a way that should just flow, but can't because of the step.

Anonymous wrote:Fake anything. No vinyl siding, give me wood. No faux stone or any of that crap. Either make it with cheap materials but play to the qualities of those, or use the real thing. It’s so gross.