Anonymous
Post 12/11/2021 07:54     Subject: Emory
Anonymous wrote:Emory simply isn’t a part of the very top tier, but that’s OK. It’s still a respectable school, even if it does approach the territory of competence where many would start asking if it makes more sense to attend a state flagship.

Neither is Vanderbilt or any of the schools pp listed above. Emory is a very good tier 2 school. A step below HYPSM and a few others. You can stomp you feet all you want but most people will immediately associate Vanderbilt with Emory when Emory is mentioned in conversation. Maybe WashU being a close second association. Those are it's peer schools which is supported by rankings not opinions. You're just going to have to get over it DP.
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2021 07:10     Subject: Emory
Anonymous wrote:Emory simply isn’t a part of the very top tier, but that’s OK. It’s still a respectable school, even if it does approach the territory of competence where many would start asking if it makes more sense to attend a state flagship.

You're delusional. You're entitled to your wrong opinion.
Anonymous
Post 12/11/2021 01:54     Subject: Emory
Emory simply isn’t a part of the very top tier, but that’s OK. It’s still a respectable school, even if it does approach the territory of competence where many would start asking if it makes more sense to attend a state flagship.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 23:38     Subject: Emory
Anonymous wrote:Why are you so insufferable? Are your lives that empty? Find a hobby.

PP I think that's one person. All of their comments write as of they're schizophrenic. And DP parchment isn't reliable for anything, if that was your "proof" it fell flat.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 22:01     Subject: Emory
Why are you so insufferable? Are your lives that empty? Find a hobby.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 21:25     Subject: Emory
CEO of Sears? LOL - I would have kept that one to myself.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 21:15     Subject: Emory
And no EY is not where Ivy grads aspire to work. Try MBB.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 21:06     Subject: Emory
Parchment tells the proper tale of the tape. With cross admits, here is the data.

Cornell 73% - Emory 27%
Rice 84% - Emory 16%
Georgetown 74% - Emory 26%
Notre Dame 76% - Emory 24%
Wash U - 90% - Emory 10%
UCLA - 70% - Emory 30%
Vanderbilt 77%- Emory 23%

and the esteemed Carnegie Mellon - 58% - Emory 42%

Sorry, not peer schools.

Want to add Brown - not a good idea. Brown - 87% - Emory 13%.

When it approaches, 50%/50% or 60%/40% I can understand.

But this is a landslide. Reagan / Mondale style. Move on. A botton of the top 30 school. Wake is its peer.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 20:49     Subject: Re:Emory
Emorys tier consists of
Notre Dame
Rice
Vanderbilt
WashU
Georgetown
UCLA
Carnegie Mellon

You can certainly argue for adding Cornell and Brown to this list. Especially these last 5 years or so . You can also argue for taking Georgetown out. Anyone who thinks Emory is higher than this group is off but anyone who thinks it's lower than this is delusional and living in the 70's.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 20:32     Subject: Emory
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Not all schools can be at the top at the same time. I often hear this argument from alums from schools like Emory, NYU, Tufts, WashU, etc all the time — “just you wait, it’ll be elite in just a few years and soar through the rankings!” It’s not that easy, and if every school is soaring through the rankings, there won’t be much movement. Just accept it.


The "top" 10-15 schools are entrenched because that is the way rankings work, particularly for schools that have the "pedigree" like the Ivys.

I don't see people saying "just wait, school X will be top 10 in a decade" except for maybe Elon boosters. Schools like NYU, Tufts and WashU are outstanding, top tier institutions. That is why they are generally considered in the top 30. If one doesn't consider top 30 or 40 or 50 in the US with thousands of schools to to top tier, that is their own snobbery, not the fault of a school.

This isn't always true Johns Hopkins wasn't always entrenched as a top 10. It was around 16 several years ago. I'm not too sure but you could probably say the same about Northwestern. And some schools have made real strides like WashU and Vandy are ranked 14 while Cornell isn't top 15.


NP. Something that isn’t always reflected by the rankings is the fact that the upper echelon of academia is extremely incestuous. JHU and Northwestern have always been in or around top 10 or flirted with the top 10 for nearly their entire histories, as they’re a part of the wider top tier of American academia. While the top tier indisputably consists of HYPSM, and arguably after that Columbia and Caltech and Chicago, Northwestern and JHU round out the top tier, along with the rest of the Ivies + Duke, Berkeley, and sometimes even Georgetown. This is generations of academic inbreeding and cross-exchanges between these schools, which largely view each other as peers. I’m not saying this is right or how it should be, but it is what it is. In recent years, Vanderbilt has probably reached this tier, and Georgetown has arguably fallen out of it. But a school like Emory has never been a part of it. THAT SAID, that doesn’t mean it isn’t good, or even elite. It’s certainly a good school and prestigious in some circles, but it doesn’t quite play with the top tier.

I'm not sure if it was you or someone else BUT someone said Emory has no representation in the executive suite. at top companies. Then another poster listed the current or former CEO's of top companies including EY, that are Emory grads. That received no response from you or them. Another poster said Emory has no top 5 programs then it was listed that US news has Emory with 10 top 5 programs, more than some of these top tier schools you listed. A poster then said those top 5 programs " don't matter" lol. Do you see the mental gymnastics?! Where is the proof that Emory doesn't play with the big boys, because to me it seems like it does...
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 19:59     Subject: Emory
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not all schools can be at the top at the same time. I often hear this argument from alums from schools like Emory, NYU, Tufts, WashU, etc all the time — “just you wait, it’ll be elite in just a few years and soar through the rankings!” It’s not that easy, and if every school is soaring through the rankings, there won’t be much movement. Just accept it.


The "top" 10-15 schools are entrenched because that is the way rankings work, particularly for schools that have the "pedigree" like the Ivys.

I don't see people saying "just wait, school X will be top 10 in a decade" except for maybe Elon boosters. Schools like NYU, Tufts and WashU are outstanding, top tier institutions. That is why they are generally considered in the top 30. If one doesn't consider top 30 or 40 or 50 in the US with thousands of schools to to top tier, that is their own snobbery, not the fault of a school.

This isn't always true Johns Hopkins wasn't always entrenched as a top 10. It was around 16 several years ago. I'm not too sure but you could probably say the same about Northwestern. And some schools have made real strides like WashU and Vandy are ranked 14 while Cornell isn't top 15.


NP. Something that isn’t always reflected by the rankings is the fact that the upper echelon of academia is extremely incestuous. JHU and Northwestern have always been in or around top 10 or flirted with the top 10 for nearly their entire histories, as they’re a part of the wider top tier of American academia. While the top tier indisputably consists of HYPSM, and arguably after that Columbia and Caltech and Chicago, Northwestern and JHU round out the top tier, along with the rest of the Ivies + Duke, Berkeley, and sometimes even Georgetown. This is generations of academic inbreeding and cross-exchanges between these schools, which largely view each other as peers. I’m not saying this is right or how it should be, but it is what it is. In recent years, Vanderbilt has probably reached this tier, and Georgetown has arguably fallen out of it. But a school like Emory has never been a part of it. THAT SAID, that doesn’t mean it isn’t good, or even elite. It’s certainly a good school and prestigious in some circles, but it doesn’t quite play with the top tier.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 19:08     Subject: Emory
Anonymous wrote:Emory doesnt have the alumni base in places of power. It was a fine regional school until the Coca-Cola money changed that in the eighties. It's been a top 25 school for a relatively short time.

My guess in another cycle or two, it will place string students into places of power. Then, it's reputation will soar like those ranked above it.

It clearly has the student, resources and firepower. Give it time.

DP does EY not count as a place of power? And Emory has been top 25 since the 90's, I know because I applied decades ago.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 18:56     Subject: Emory
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not all schools can be at the top at the same time. I often hear this argument from alums from schools like Emory, NYU, Tufts, WashU, etc all the time — “just you wait, it’ll be elite in just a few years and soar through the rankings!” It’s not that easy, and if every school is soaring through the rankings, there won’t be much movement. Just accept it.


The "top" 10-15 schools are entrenched because that is the way rankings work, particularly for schools that have the "pedigree" like the Ivys.

I don't see people saying "just wait, school X will be top 10 in a decade" except for maybe Elon boosters. Schools like NYU, Tufts and WashU are outstanding, top tier institutions. That is why they are generally considered in the top 30. If one doesn't consider top 30 or 40 or 50 in the US with thousands of schools to to top tier, that is their own snobbery, not the fault of a school.

This isn't always true Johns Hopkins wasn't always entrenched as a top 10. It was around 16 several years ago. I'm not too sure but you could probably say the same about Northwestern. And some schools have made real strides like WashU and Vandy are ranked 14 while Cornell isn't top 15.
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 18:19     Subject: Emory
Anonymous wrote:Those top 5 programs are all in non-desirable health care fields with mediocre paying jobs. Not Wall Street. Not consulting.

Sorry, Emory grads dont make up the Board Room or corner offices.

It's a fine school. Just mostly for pre-Med. Everything else. Meh.

Non-desirable to who PP?
Anonymous
Post 12/10/2021 18:01     Subject: Emory
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Emory doesnt have the alumni base in places of power. It was a fine regional school until the Coca-Cola money changed that in the eighties. It's been a top 25 school for a relatively short time.

My guess in another cycle or two, it will place string students into places of power. Then, it's reputation will soar like those ranked above it.

It clearly has the student, resources and firepower. Give it time.

Google is Free . And you and your friend is moving the goal post.
How many Cornell and Vandy grads are in positions of power. How many too 5 programs does Cornell have? No one is comparing Emory it to Harvard or any top 10 school. How many Rice grads are in positions of power? Dartmouth?


Cornell has 61 Nobels and has been an elite school for over a century. Not a Cornell alum or affiliated in any way, but the insistence on comparing Emory to Cornell just highlights the gulf between the two schools.

Answer the freaking question. You're being moronic. You said Emory isn't top 5 in wall street or Consulting, and the 19 plus programs it is too 5 in doesn't matter. Okay great. IS CORNELL top 5 in wall street or Consulting? Is Vanderbilt? Is Georgetown? Do any of those schools have more top 5 programs than Emory? I'm looking on US news and the answer is NO!.


First of all, you're conflating me with someone entirely different. I'm a DP. Second of all, yes, Cornell does rank in the top 5 feeders to Wall Street, actually. https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking

Cornell also has world-leading programs in computer science, architecture, hotel administration, and a smattering of other arts and sciences fields. Again, I say this as someone with absolutely no affiliation with the school. Emory's a great school but this weird desperation is, firstly, telling and, secondly, deeply embarrassing.

The site you posted says it's 16 when adjusted for size while Emory is 21. Really no difference there, or do you think Cornell being over 2x the size of Emory shouldnt matter when it comes to placement. The same site also says Emory has better med school placement when adjusted for size. Also you and your friend are weirdly making this about Cornell just to be facetious. How is a top 20 school different than the other schools ranked 11-25? Where is the proof that Emory is somehow overrated compared to it's peers? Stop acting as if we're only comparing Emory to Cornell here. When were comparing Emory to 15 schools.