Anonymous wrote:Another day without finding her? At this point they might have to use divers. Maybe her body is caught up in the bottom of the ocean.

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Anonymous wrote:Her friends really failed her.

By allowing her autonomy and giving her the privacy she requested?

I agree blaming the friends is uncool. They had no reason to think she'd do something dumb like swim in rough seas at night.

How do you know she *chose* to? Did reports say that? Eyewitnesses or video?

This^. What if they guy drugged her or got her drunk and then took her to the beach? What if guy is innocent and she just drowned? What if both she and the guy passed out and someone kidnapped her?

Blaming the victim is insensitive anyways but more so when we don't know what really happened.

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Anonymous wrote:Her friends really failed her.

By allowing her autonomy and giving her the privacy she requested?

I agree blaming the friends is uncool. They had no reason to think she'd do something dumb like swim in rough seas at night.

How do you know she *chose* to? Did reports say that? Eyewitnesses or video?

It’s you again. I went to McDonalds today. It’s logical to infer I chose to go there.

You’re not the feminist you think you are. Because something bad happened to this young woman, we don’t get to then decide it wasn’t the result of a decision she made. We don’t get to play women make decisions for themselves, but if something bad happened it must not be their fault.

There is evidence to indicate she chose to go in the water. There is zero evidence to support that any decisions made were not her own.

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Anonymous wrote:Her friends really failed her.

By allowing her autonomy and giving her the privacy she requested?

I agree blaming the friends is uncool. They had no reason to think she'd do something dumb like swim in rough seas at night.

How do you know she *chose* to? Did reports say that? Eyewitnesses or video?

Any other reason for taking off her outer clothes, and placing them on the chaise? Enlighten us.

Anonymous wrote:The news reports haven't said how good of a swimmer she was. That would be helpful to the investigation.

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Anonymous wrote:Her friends really failed her.

By allowing her autonomy and giving her the privacy she requested?

I agree blaming the friends is uncool. They had no reason to think she'd do something dumb like swim in rough seas at night.

How do you know she *chose* to? Did reports say that? Eyewitnesses or video?

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Anonymous wrote:Her friends really failed her.

By allowing her autonomy and giving her the privacy she requested?

I agree blaming the friends is uncool. They had no reason to think she'd do something dumb like swim in rough seas at night.

How do you know she *chose* to? Did reports say that? Eyewitnesses or video?

Any other reason for taking off her outer clothes, and placing them on the chaise? Enlighten us.

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Anonymous wrote:Her friends really failed her.

By allowing her autonomy and giving her the privacy she requested?

I agree blaming the friends is uncool. They had no reason to think she'd do something dumb like swim in rough seas at night.

How do you know she *chose* to? Did reports say that? Eyewitnesses or video?

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Anonymous wrote:Her friends really failed her.

By allowing her autonomy and giving her the privacy she requested?

You are in a foreign country, you do not let your friends go off with a stranger with at least a cell phone or way to contact. And she requested privacy while drunk or high? Yeah no I’m not abiding by your request. I stand by my assessment that those were lousy friends.

That does not make them criminally suspect in any way.
And, These women chose each other.

I never said they were criminally suspect in anyway! I said they failed her. And they did.

They were probably also groggy from drinking and didn't sleep much due to late night partying and power outage.

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Anonymous wrote:Her friends really failed her.

By allowing her autonomy and giving her the privacy she requested?

You are in a foreign country, you do not let your friends go off with a stranger with at least a cell phone or way to contact. And she requested privacy while drunk or high? Yeah no I’m not abiding by your request. I stand by my assessment that those were lousy friends.

Well, she chose them.
At the end, this is the issue.

She chose to go to the DR.
She chose to be in this company of girls.
She chose to go with that guy.
She chose to be at the beach late at night when there were rough waves.

Maybe it is hard for the 'important family' to accept these voluntary decisions because they all led to an unfortunate outcome.
Blaming others for acts of volition is a hard argument to make.

Did we find out why they are important? Also why are ashburn and FBI resources being used ?

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Anonymous wrote:Her friends really failed her.

By allowing her autonomy and giving her the privacy she requested?

You are in a foreign country, you do not let your friends go off with a stranger with at least a cell phone or way to contact. And she requested privacy while drunk or high? Yeah no I’m not abiding by your request. I stand by my assessment that those were lousy friends.

That does not make them criminally suspect in any way.
And, These women chose each other.

I never said they were criminally suspect in anyway! I said they failed her. And they did.

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Anonymous wrote:Her friends really failed her.

By allowing her autonomy and giving her the privacy she requested?

I agree blaming the friends is uncool. They had no reason to think she'd do something dumb like swim in rough seas at night.

How do you know she *chose* to? Did reports say that? Eyewitnesses or video?

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Anonymous wrote:This story is so sad. I feel like girls especially have it drilled in their head to look out for their friends and yet this sort of thing happens. I wonder if she had known the boy for a few days so had an illusion of safety and so did her friends.

I really don't like blaming the friends. She clearly wanted to stay behind with him. It was after 5am and the friends wanted to go to bed at last. If she didn't want to go with them, please tell me specifically what they should have done.

They should have stepped in, took her by the arm and led her back to the room to sleep. I had to do this to a friend (we were in our 30's). She was drunk and some guy just "knew" he was hooking up that night. Yes, she was flirting and "all over him", but no way was that happening on "my watch". I came between them, told him to please move along because it wasn't happening tonight and took her back with me to our hotel room. Friends look out for each other. Sadly, her "friends" failed her that morning.

If her friends knew she intended to have sex with the boy, why did they not come by her room or the beach in the morning to see how it was going?

Instead, they just went on a day trip, and gave her privacy.

Ah, this one is interesting.
Do you want your friends coming by your room to see how sex with a random stranger is going?

Right? People here are out of touch.

The only person to blame for this tragedy is the girl. She made a dumb, bad choice and has paid the ultimate price.

It's devastating and maddening, yes, but the blame cannot be shifted to the hotel, her friends, or the guy she was with.

I can think of a dozen or more similar dumb, bad choices I made at her age, but I somehow survived. Luck was on my side each of those times. Here are just a few:
1. met a guy day 1 of spring break, hours of landing & checking into our resort when I was 19, and ditched dinner with my girlfriends to hook up with him
2. went night swimming in Punta Cana when I was 18 (or 20 - not sure which trip I did this)
3. met a local in DR & agreed to go out on his boat with him at night to look at the stars
4. got in a sketchy unmarked van in Chinatown with my friend while shopping for knockoffs. The van drove around the streets while we "shopped" inside. On the same trip, was guided down an alleyway to a secret entrance and walked through a literal sweatshop up 6 flights of rickety stairs to shop for knockoffs.
5. got super drunk in OCMD during beach week fresh out of HS & had to go to the hospital - my parents never found out.
6. was a passenger in a car multiple times with a driver who blew just under .08 using their little pocket breathalyzer b/c we didn't realize that .06 is still freaking impaired (and that those pocket breathalyzers aren't super accurate)