Anonymous
Post 09/02/2024 09:43     Subject: Trump Campaign verbally and physically assaults Arlington Memorial staff, illegally uses site for campaigning

My last three Uber Drivers were Afghans.
Each told me their stories. I’ve collected stories of Afghan drivers before that

Each really wanted to stay.
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2024 09:41     Subject: Re:Trump Campaign verbally and physically assaults Arlington Memorial staff, illegally uses site for campaigning

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wonder what these Abbey Gate Gold Star families think Trump would have done differently to prevent the deaths of their loved ones.


I don’t know maybe the fact the Taliban not touching an American soldier for a year prior perhaps? Just spitballing…


Yes, when you give the enemy what it wants, for nothing in return, that is what happens. Trump left office and Biden could not up the number of troops according to the "deal" Trump and Pompeo struck. So how do you do an effective pullout of hundreds of thousands of people with 2,500 troops on the ground? The fact that we only lost 13 people is a freaking miracle.


Well there you go. It’s Trumps fault of course. I’m changing my mind and voting for Harris. Reading the Atlantic from now on and NYT.
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2024 09:37     Subject: Re:Trump Campaign verbally and physically assaults Arlington Memorial staff, illegally uses site for campaigning

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wonder what these Abbey Gate Gold Star families think Trump would have done differently to prevent the deaths of their loved ones.


Used Bagram instead of Karzi for one...

Not set a set date certain for leaving, like Biden...



Trump set the date, not Biden.

There weren't enough troops - Trump left 2,500 and that could not be increased per agreement - to cover Bagram AND the road to Bagram. It would have left those troops totally exposed and certainly more would have been left.

20/20 hindsight is wonderful, but you aren't dealing with the facts on the ground at the time.
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2024 09:36     Subject: Re:Trump Campaign verbally and physically assaults Arlington Memorial staff, illegally uses site for campaigning

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wonder what these Abbey Gate Gold Star families think Trump would have done differently to prevent the deaths of their loved ones.


I don’t know maybe the fact the Taliban not touching an American soldier for a year prior perhaps? Just spitballing…


Yes, when you give the enemy what it wants, for nothing in return, that is what happens. Trump left office and Biden could not up the number of troops according to the "deal" Trump and Pompeo struck. So how do you do an effective pullout of hundreds of thousands of people with 2,500 troops on the ground? The fact that we only lost 13 people is a freaking miracle.
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2024 09:35     Subject: Re:Trump Campaign verbally and physically assaults Arlington Memorial staff, illegally uses site for campaigning

Anonymous wrote:I wonder what these Abbey Gate Gold Star families think Trump would have done differently to prevent the deaths of their loved ones.


Used Bagram instead of Karzi for one...

Not set a set date certain for leaving, like Biden...

Anonymous
Post 09/02/2024 09:34     Subject: Re:Trump Campaign verbally and physically assaults Arlington Memorial staff, illegally uses site for campaigning

Anonymous wrote:I wonder what these Abbey Gate Gold Star families think Trump would have done differently to prevent the deaths of their loved ones.


I don’t know maybe the fact the Taliban not touching an American soldier for a year prior perhaps? Just spitballing…
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2024 09:30     Subject: Re:Trump Campaign verbally and physically assaults Arlington Memorial staff, illegally uses site for campaigning

I wonder what these Abbey Gate Gold Star families think Trump would have done differently to prevent the deaths of their loved ones.
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2024 09:29     Subject: Trump Campaign verbally and physically assaults Arlington Memorial staff, illegally uses site for campaigning

Anonymous wrote:

Because Republicans are hypocritical trash. I'm not a Democrat and I don't like them, but only an idiot could not see military deaths are political pawns for the right. It's why the same clowns who screamed about f o u r deaths in Libya and demanded hearing after hearing after hearing, never had that same energy for a f***ing NEOCON/PNAC war based on lies leading to the deaths of over 4400 troops and a million civilians. I didn't see Kristol or Frum or Cheney or Feith or Rumsfeld or the countless other blood-thirsty war criminals get their a$$es hauled before committees to be yelled at for murdering that many people based on lies. I didn't see Republican sh*ts attack Cheney for psychotically lying about some Saddam-OBL connection. This is why I laugh when buffoons on the right say the media is "liberal." Blitzer allowed Cheney to sit there and lie to the American people. The media did the bidding of Neocons and they're also the only reason Trump ever became president. They allowed that birther scum a platform to lie. They covered his klan rallies. He got free advertising from that "liberal" media. That's what the media has always done.



This this this, and add Frank Gaffney to the cabal as well.
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2024 09:27     Subject: Trump Campaign verbally and physically assaults Arlington Memorial staff, illegally uses site for campaigning

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't remember the same level of outrage against a sitting president (Reagan, in this case) when 241 military personnel were killed by suicide bombers at the Marine Corps barracks in Beirut, Lebanon in 1983.

A military fact-finding committee found that "senior military officials were responsible for security lapses and blamed the military chain of command for the disaster. It suggested that there might have been many fewer deaths if the barracks guards had carried loaded weapons and a barrier more substantial than the barbed wire the bomber drove over easily."

Following the bombing, "the presence of protective barriers (bollards) became common around critical government facilities in the United States and elsewhere, particularly Western civic targets situated overseas."


Because Republicans are hypocritical trash. I'm not a Democrat and I don't like them, but only an idiot could not see military deaths are political pawns for the right. It's why the same clowns who screamed about f o u r deaths in Libya and demanded hearing after hearing after hearing, never had that same energy for a f***ing NEOCON/PNAC war based on lies leading to the deaths of over 4400 troops and a million civilians. I didn't see Kristol or Frum or Cheney or Feith or Rumsfeld or the countless other blood-thirsty war criminals get their a$$es hauled before committees to be yelled at for murdering that many people based on lies. I didn't see Republican sh*ts attack Cheney for psychotically lying about some Saddam-OBL connection. This is why I laugh when buffoons on the right say the media is "liberal." Blitzer allowed Cheney to sit there and lie to the American people. The media did the bidding of Neocons and they're also the only reason Trump ever became president. They allowed that birther scum a platform to lie. They covered his klan rallies. He got free advertising from that "liberal" media. That's what the media has always done.



Spot on. This post should be a sticky at the top of the forum.
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2024 09:24     Subject: Trump Campaign verbally and physically assaults Arlington Memorial staff, illegally uses site for campaigning

Anonymous wrote:Repeating the suckers and losers canard is the only offense the Harris campaign has right now. Dust of the fine people hoax and repeat ad nausieum for 64 days straight and voila. Cross your fingers guys those polls keep showing her up as much as they do.



My navy dad voted for every single Republican presidential candidate until Trump. Refused to support trump and hated Trump's disrespect for military service. Many vets and military service members are repulsed by Trump's disrespect for the military.
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2024 09:12     Subject: Trump Campaign verbally and physically assaults Arlington Memorial staff, illegally uses site for campaigning

Repeating the suckers and losers canard is the only offense the Harris campaign has right now. Dust of the fine people hoax and repeat ad nausieum for 64 days straight and voila. Cross your fingers guys those polls keep showing her up as much as they do.
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2024 08:09     Subject: Trump Campaign verbally and physically assaults Arlington Memorial staff, illegally uses site for campaigning

The crazy shit they need to believe to make excuses for Donnie is wild!
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2024 06:06     Subject: Re:Trump Campaign verbally and physically assaults Arlington Memorial staff, illegally uses site for campaigning

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The ANC employee had no right to try to stop the Abbey Gate Wreath ceremony and the Gold Star Families visits to their children’s graves. They all had permission to be there.

That’s why the Army says the matter is closed and no charges will be pursued. You just know some Trump Derangèmênt Sýndrome ANC employee showed their @ss inappropriately and now the ANC, Army, etc, do NOT want that footage released. All the talk about ANC being a sacred space and conducting yourself with dignity and respect will fly out the window when the ANC employee is shown having a meltdown on news stations and acting a fool on hallowed ground.


Do you realize that just because you made this scenario up in your head doesn't mean it happened that way? I am concerned for your grip on reality.
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2024 05:41     Subject: Re:Trump Campaign verbally and physically assaults Arlington Memorial staff, illegally uses site for campaigning

Anonymous wrote:Shoving the ANC childless cat lady out of the way was smart. So is encouraging supporters to take action in any form. The violence is a tool. It shows Trump’s strength and it eats away at the Harris campaign’s effectiveness.

In this election Democrats are going to underperform against the polls, and thus Republicans will over-perform. Democrats have to get 11 or 12 people wanting Harris to win for every ten votes they actually get? MAGA is able to intimidate 1 or 2 from voting or, failing that, disqualify them at the polling place. The disqualifications also serve to slow down voting and make people turn away. Trump, on the other hand, gets ten votes for every ten MAGA. Harris and the Democrats just can’t overcome that math.


This is some seriously fascist shit but wishing it doesn’t make it true.

Democrats have been overperforming polls since Dobbs and there’s no reason to think that stops now given the cat lady comments. The idea that 10% of voters will be intimidated from voting is just a fascist fantasy not reality.

On the other hand at some point people on the margins for Trump may get tired of the flip flops and the norm breaking and the rambling sun downing and just stay home instead.
Anonymous
Post 09/02/2024 05:28     Subject: Re:Trump Campaign verbally and physically assaults Arlington Memorial staff, illegally uses site for campaigning

Anonymous wrote:Shoving the ANC childless cat lady out of the way was smart. So is encouraging supporters to take action in any form. The violence is a tool. It shows Trump’s strength and it eats away at the Harris campaign’s effectiveness.

In this election Democrats are going to underperform against the polls, and thus Republicans will over-perform. Democrats have to get 11 or 12 people wanting Harris to win for every ten votes they actually get? MAGA is able to intimidate 1 or 2 from voting or, failing that, disqualify them at the polling place. The disqualifications also serve to slow down voting and make people turn away. Trump, on the other hand, gets ten votes for every ten MAGA. Harris and the Democrats just can’t overcome that math.


Man arrested after storming press area at a Trump rally will face charges, police say


JOHNSTOWN, Pa. (AP) — Police said Saturday that a man will face misdemeanor charges after he stormed into the press area at Donald Trump's rally in Johnstown, Pennsylvania, before being surrounded by authorities and eventually subdued with a Taser as the former president spoke at the campaign stop.

The man made it over a barrier ringing the media area and began climbing the back side of a riser where television reporters and cameras were stationed, according to a video of the incident posted to social media by a reporter for CBS News. People near him tried to pull him off the riser and were quickly joined by police officers and sheriff's deputies.


"Witnesses, including some in the press corps, described a crazed individual shouting expletives at President Trump," said campaign senior adviser Danielle Alvarez. "His aggression was focused on the president and towards the stage as he entered the press area."

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politics/man-arrested-after-storming-press-area-at-a-trump-rally-will-face-charges-police-say

The ANC employee had no right to try to stop the Abbey Gate Wreath ceremony and the Gold Star Families visits to their children’s graves. They all had permission to be there.

That’s why the Army says the matter is closed and no charges will be pursued. You just know some Trump Derangèmênt Sýndrome ANC employee showed their @ss inappropriately and now the ANC, Army, etc, do NOT want that footage released. All the talk about ANC being a sacred space and conducting yourself with dignity and respect will fly out the window when the ANC employee is shown having a meltdown on news stations and acting a fool on hallowed ground.