Anonymous
01/30/2023 20:30
Subject: Re:The Twitter Files
Not a neocon but my understanding is that Hamilton 68 represented a bunch of liberal “intel” leaders who outright lied about Russian trolls to support their liberal agendas.
I will never believe another intelligence official who also happens to be a Dem.
I will never believe another intelligence official who also happens to be a Dem.
Anonymous
01/30/2023 20:21
Subject: Re:The Twitter Files
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone here dispute Taibbi’s argument about Hamilton 68 and its dashboard? Let the neocons answer, and answer proudly.
You out there neocons? Thoughts?
What is it you want to know?
How anyone can argue with a straight face that he’s wrong. Can’t be done.
How can anyone BELIEVE Taibbi with a straight face? He wants to play investigative journalist, he has full access to Twitter's internal files, records, emails and reports, yet hasn't posted a damn thing about the *actual* Russian troll farms, Internet Research Agency, the server farms running bots, how Twitter is *still* failing to counter them, and how about all of the sketchy things that have happened SINCE Musk took over - bullying and unjustified firings (lawsuits abound), rents and bills not paid, disgusting bathrooms for lack of janitorial staff, essential Twitter services like MFA broken, and worse yet Twitter banning watchdogs keeping tabs on far right extremism like Chad Loder, at Elon Musk's personal behest. If you can't coherently speak to any of those things then there's your answer how we can indeed, with a straight face, question the legitimacy of what Taibbi is peddling.
Anonymous
01/30/2023 19:56
Subject: The Twitter Files
Anonymous wrote:Taibbi has a counterresponse to ASD's response to his article.
It is for subscribers at his new website.
Hardly a new website. His substack has been around for a long time.
Anonymous
01/30/2023 19:55
Subject: Re:The Twitter Files
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone here dispute Taibbi’s argument about Hamilton 68 and its dashboard? Let the neocons answer, and answer proudly.
You out there neocons? Thoughts?
What is it you want to know?
How anyone can argue with a straight face that he’s wrong. Can’t be done.
Anonymous
01/30/2023 19:54
Subject: Re:The Twitter Files
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone here dispute Taibbi’s argument about Hamilton 68 and its dashboard? Let the neocons answer, and answer proudly.
Taibbi is lying about what Hamilton 68 claimed. Here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20170819144311/http://dashboard.securingdemocracy.org/about
Nope. He refuted that.
Anonymous
01/30/2023 17:29
Subject: Re:The Twitter Files
Anonymous wrote:Anyone here dispute Taibbi’s argument about Hamilton 68 and its dashboard? Let the neocons answer, and answer proudly.
Taibbi is lying about what Hamilton 68 claimed. Here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20170819144311/http://dashboard.securingdemocracy.org/about
Anonymous
01/30/2023 14:10
Subject: The Twitter Files
Anonymous wrote:Taibbi has a counterresponse to ASD's response to his article.
It is for subscribers at his new website.
Paywalled? Sorry, hard pass. Must not be that important to get out if it's sitting behind a paywall.
Anonymous
01/30/2023 14:06
Subject: The Twitter Files
Taibbi has a counterresponse to ASD's response to his article.
It is for subscribers at his new website.
It is for subscribers at his new website.
Anonymous
01/30/2023 12:50
Subject: The Twitter Files
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So where we're at now...
Taibbi repeatedly keeps pushing this narrative that Twitter was run by a bunch of woke liberal ideologues hellbent on muzzling conservatives. And that they worked hand in hand with the FBI and other groups to make that happen.
Yet we saw zero of the emails (and I am sure there are many) detailing legitimate FBI counterterrorism concerns from Taibbi.
Yet we saw zero of the emails (and I am sure there are many) detailing legitimate concerns about actual, genuien foreign election meddling and foreign influence operations, like the Internet Research Agency.
Yet we see from messages from Yael Roth and others that they were more like amoral corporate characters than some kind of ideological crusader hell bent against the right.
Taibbi's releases are extremely misleading and deceptive for not including any of that. It cannot be denied that Taibbi and Musk are selling a very deceptive and dishonest narrative.
One can only speculate why. At best, Musk is using this nonsense to deflect away from the complete dumpster fire that twitter has become since he's taken over. And he's definitely trying to play himself as some kind of hero for free speech and transparency (while failing miserably at it.)
But meanwhile, he is playing right into the hands of people who use his platform to manipulate twitter's audience. Complete 💩 show.
It came out a few weeks ago that the FBI was sending their messages via an app that deleted the messages in 10 days(or was it hours?). So the direct records are gone, and they have emails of Twitter execs talking about the requests.
That still doesn't give Taibbi any license or excuse to be pushing the highly skewed narrative that he's pushing.
Anonymous
01/30/2023 11:59
Subject: Re:The Twitter Files
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anyone here dispute Taibbi’s argument about Hamilton 68 and its dashboard? Let the neocons answer, and answer proudly.
You out there neocons? Thoughts?
What is it you want to know?
Anonymous
01/30/2023 11:40
Subject: Re:The Twitter Files
Anonymous wrote:Anyone here dispute Taibbi’s argument about Hamilton 68 and its dashboard? Let the neocons answer, and answer proudly.
You out there neocons? Thoughts?
Anonymous
01/30/2023 04:48
Subject: The Twitter Files
Anonymous wrote:So where we're at now...
Taibbi repeatedly keeps pushing this narrative that Twitter was run by a bunch of woke liberal ideologues hellbent on muzzling conservatives. And that they worked hand in hand with the FBI and other groups to make that happen.
Yet we saw zero of the emails (and I am sure there are many) detailing legitimate FBI counterterrorism concerns from Taibbi.
Yet we saw zero of the emails (and I am sure there are many) detailing legitimate concerns about actual, genuien foreign election meddling and foreign influence operations, like the Internet Research Agency.
Yet we see from messages from Yael Roth and others that they were more like amoral corporate characters than some kind of ideological crusader hell bent against the right.
Taibbi's releases are extremely misleading and deceptive for not including any of that. It cannot be denied that Taibbi and Musk are selling a very deceptive and dishonest narrative.
One can only speculate why. At best, Musk is using this nonsense to deflect away from the complete dumpster fire that twitter has become since he's taken over. And he's definitely trying to play himself as some kind of hero for free speech and transparency (while failing miserably at it.)
But meanwhile, he is playing right into the hands of people who use his platform to manipulate twitter's audience. Complete 💩 show.
It came out a few weeks ago that the FBI was sending their messages via an app that deleted the messages in 10 days(or was it hours?). So the direct records are gone, and they have emails of Twitter execs talking about the requests.
Anonymous
01/29/2023 21:43
Subject: Re:The Twitter Files
Anyone here dispute Taibbi’s argument about Hamilton 68 and its dashboard? Let the neocons answer, and answer proudly.
Anonymous
01/29/2023 20:25
Subject: The Twitter Files
Exactly. And why isn't Taibbi presenting any of THAT story from Twitter's files? It's absolutely critical to the discussion of the actual threats to American democracy posed by actual Russian trolls and bots, and it provides absolutely crucial context.
But that said, this is nothing new, Taibbi has been an a-hole for a very long time. https://tinyurl.com/bdfu7yup