Anonymous
Post 06/30/2022 14:43     Subject: Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond
Where does Engle sit...in the front?
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2022 14:41     Subject: Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Just want to interject that the SUV Trump was in has the middle set of seats removed. So he couldn't have reached the front in the way she relayed the story.


Do you mean the way Ornato relayed the story?


Look at the white cuffs through the SUV window in the snippet of video they showed. He’s right behind the front seats and is waiving his arms around like a lunatic.


Can you link to the video and point to a time? Because I saw a 4 minute clip of a series of cars waiting, then leaving after the speech, and not only do I not know which one the President was in, I do not see anything through the windows, apart from a few movements, but not anything or anyone recognizable.


Ah, OK, just saw the PP's clip. It looks as though Trump is waving at the crowd. He could be gesticulating in anger, but his cuffs are not far enough towards the front to touch the steering wheel or anyone in the front seats.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2022 14:30     Subject: Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just want to interject that the SUV Trump was in has the middle set of seats removed. So he couldn't have reached the front in the way she relayed the story.


Do you mean the way Ornato relayed the story?


Look at the white cuffs through the SUV window in the snippet of video they showed. He’s right behind the front seats and is waiving his arms around like a lunatic.


Can you link to the video and point to a time? Because I saw a 4 minute clip of a series of cars waiting, then leaving after the speech, and not only do I not know which one the President was in, I do not see anything through the windows, apart from a few movements, but not anything or anyone recognizable.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2022 14:30     Subject: Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just want to interject that the SUV Trump was in has the middle set of seats removed. So he couldn't have reached the front in the way she relayed the story.


Do you mean the way Ornato relayed the story?


Look at the white cuffs through the SUV window in the snippet of video they showed. He’s right behind the front seats and is waiving his arms around like a lunatic.


The video is shown several times here:

And yes you can see his arms flapping around.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2022 14:28     Subject: Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just want to interject that the SUV Trump was in has the middle set of seats removed. So he couldn't have reached the front in the way she relayed the story.


Do you mean the way Ornato relayed the story?


Look at the white cuffs through the SUV window in the snippet of video they showed. He’s right behind the front seats and is waiving his arms around like a lunatic.


The video is shown several times here:

Thank you.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2022 14:27     Subject: Re:Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond
Anonymous wrote:Let me remind everyone that the issue is that Trump knew insurrectionists were armed and wanted them to have access to the Capitol.

That's it. Whatever he did in the SUV matter not one iota.



But everyone who thinks it's impossible for this to happens, does not know Trump. I clearly remember his visible anger at the debate with HRC.

Everyone but seditionists knows this.

I think we all know that Trump was deeply involved with the planning on the coup attempt; he wanted to remain president*** for life. What I want to know is the extent to which the rest of the GOP was aware and complacent or supportive.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2022 14:27     Subject: Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just want to interject that the SUV Trump was in has the middle set of seats removed. So he couldn't have reached the front in the way she relayed the story.


Do you mean the way Ornato relayed the story?


Look at the white cuffs through the SUV window in the snippet of video they showed. He’s right behind the front seats and is waiving his arms around like a lunatic.


The video is shown several times here:
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2022 14:26     Subject: Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just want to interject that the SUV Trump was in has the middle set of seats removed. So he couldn't have reached the front in the way she relayed the story.


Do you mean the way Ornato relayed the story?


Look at the white cuffs through the SUV window in the snippet of video they showed. He’s right behind the front seats and is waiving his arms around like a lunatic.

Do you have a direct link? I watched but I don’t remember what point they showed that clip.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2022 14:26     Subject: Re:Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond
Let me remind everyone that the issue is that Trump knew insurrectionists were armed and wanted them to have access to the Capitol.

That's it. Whatever he did in the SUV matter not one iota.



But everyone who thinks it's impossible for this to happens, does not know Trump. I clearly remember his visible anger at the debate with HRC.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2022 14:24     Subject: Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just want to interject that the SUV Trump was in has the middle set of seats removed. So he couldn't have reached the front in the way she relayed the story.


Do you mean the way Ornato relayed the story?


Look at the white cuffs through the SUV window in the snippet of video they showed. He’s right behind the front seats and is waiving his arms around like a lunatic.


“Like” a lunatic? he is one
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2022 14:23     Subject: Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just want to interject that the SUV Trump was in has the middle set of seats removed. So he couldn't have reached the front in the way she relayed the story.


Do you mean the way Ornato relayed the story?


Look at the white cuffs through the SUV window in the snippet of video they showed. He’s right behind the front seats and is waiving his arms around like a lunatic.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2022 14:23     Subject: Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just want to interject that the SUV Trump was in has the middle set of seats removed. So he couldn't have reached the front in the way she relayed the story.


Do you mean the way Ornato relayed the story?


She told the committee the story. We have no idea if Ornato relayed the story to her in that way, in another way, or if he did at all.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2022 14:19     Subject: Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond
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Anonymous wrote:The secret service has a long history of lying.


Ornato and Engel can’t admit they told anyone what Trump did in the car because it’s a serious breach of security protocol to gossip about stupid shit that their protectees do and say. Discretion is more sacred than truth.


No, it’s not. Not when you’re watching an attempted coup play out. It sounds like even the secret service guys were in a pickle that day. Just like everyone else that worked in proximity to Trump. DOD officials, etc. The truth will set them all free.

Interesting that Pence was allowed to refuse to do what USSS wanted and Trump was not.


You raise an interesting point. Secret Service agents are human and want to manhandle their protectee as little as possible, obviously. They can pressure someone to get in a car, but they might balk a little at physically forcing someone to get in - which they have every right to do if they feel their protectee is in mortal danger. There's just a moment of doubt, and Pence, who is no fool, used that to his advantage by INSISTING that he knew he was on to them and he would not get in that car. If protesters had burst in their little area at that moment, there is no doubt the Secret Service would have pushed him in the car.

Pence knows that when you're in the backseat, it's too late. He said as much to his Secret Service.
Trump got in, and his Secret Service, who had ALREADY studied the risks and ALREADY told him he was not going to the Capitol, had to tussle with a man who can't understand the word no.


NANNANANNAAAANNANAAAA BATMAN
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2022 14:17     Subject: Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond
Anonymous wrote:Just want to interject that the SUV Trump was in has the middle set of seats removed. So he couldn't have reached the front in the way she relayed the story.


Do you mean the way Ornato relayed the story?
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2022 14:17     Subject: Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond
Merrick Garland needs to sh*t or get off the pot.