Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If I were a juror, I’d first vote to acquit on all charges (too much chaos to blame the officer trying to control a huge guy on drugs). But if a bunch of others want to convict, then I’d tell them that I’ll go along with manslaughter and we’re home for dinner. Or keep pushing for more and we’ll be here day after day because I’m not convicting this guy of murder.
Pretty sure the others would take my offer and call it a day.
^^definitely likely scenario.
I would never agree to either of those, so if we were both on the jury, guess we'd be there for a while until we declared hung jury.
Same. No way I’d go along with that BS.
This. You're supposed to vote your conscience, not negotiate to get home fastest. I'd like to believe I would hold my ground until convinced otherwise.
I don't think the jurors here are the want to go home fast types...Presumably the people who really just want to go home fast would have found a way to get out of jury duty for a murder trial the first place. Id think it would be pretty easy to get disqualified for this jury.
Not so sure. The kind of people who didn't follow the Floyd case and had no prejudice about it are not really likely to be engaged, critical thinkers. Much more likely to want to just put an end to what must have been an extremely difficult several weeks.
They released profiles of the jurors yesterday and that did not seem to be the case on the basis of those profiles.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If I were a juror, I’d first vote to acquit on all charges (too much chaos to blame the officer trying to control a huge guy on drugs). But if a bunch of others want to convict, then I’d tell them that I’ll go along with manslaughter and we’re home for dinner. Or keep pushing for more and we’ll be here day after day because I’m not convicting this guy of murder.
Pretty sure the others would take my offer and call it a day.
^^definitely likely scenario.
I would never agree to either of those, so if we were both on the jury, guess we'd be there for a while until we declared hung jury.
Same. No way I’d go along with that BS.
I served as a juror on a clear case of manslaughter. Father beat his infant for crying too much and baby died from severe blows to head. What PP described above is really what it sounds like being on a jury. It's just so damn sad.
Oh my. You must have been totally traumatized by that. I can't imagine.
It was awful. That poor mother. It was the third trial following two prior mistrials due to jury shenanigans like what was reported above. Jurors never talked about the admissible evidence, only the stuff that judge moved to strike from record. And some jurors felt it necessary to consider how bad their parents had it in jail so why should someone else go through that. Nothing at trial that should've been relevant where between jurors when doors were closed. Now, many years later, I know that if it ever comes down to jury trial, avoid at all costs. Jurors are humans who bring their baggage and biases into it and are really bitter about being there.
And I really wanted that dad to rot in jail.
So the mother was also in jail?
Anonymous wrote:If he’s guilty, does he get to stay out in bail?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If I were a juror, I’d first vote to acquit on all charges (too much chaos to blame the officer trying to control a huge guy on drugs). But if a bunch of others want to convict, then I’d tell them that I’ll go along with manslaughter and we’re home for dinner. Or keep pushing for more and we’ll be here day after day because I’m not convicting this guy of murder.
Pretty sure the others would take my offer and call it a day.
^^definitely likely scenario.
I would never agree to either of those, so if we were both on the jury, guess we'd be there for a while until we declared hung jury.
Same. No way I’d go along with that BS.
This. You're supposed to vote your conscience, not negotiate to get home fastest. I'd like to believe I would hold my ground until convinced otherwise.
I don't think the jurors here are the want to go home fast types...Presumably the people who really just want to go home fast would have found a way to get out of jury duty for a murder trial the first place. Id think it would be pretty easy to get disqualified for this jury.
Not so sure. The kind of people who didn't follow the Floyd case and had no prejudice about it are not really likely to be engaged, critical thinkers. Much more likely to want to just put an end to what must have been an extremely difficult several weeks.
Anonymous wrote:If he’s guilty, does he get to stay out in bail?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If I were a juror, I’d first vote to acquit on all charges (too much chaos to blame the officer trying to control a huge guy on drugs). But if a bunch of others want to convict, then I’d tell them that I’ll go along with manslaughter and we’re home for dinner. Or keep pushing for more and we’ll be here day after day because I’m not convicting this guy of murder.
Pretty sure the others would take my offer and call it a day.
Glad you’re not a juror because you’re wrong.
The juror has to go by what was presented in court.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If I were a juror, I’d first vote to acquit on all charges (too much chaos to blame the officer trying to control a huge guy on drugs). But if a bunch of others want to convict, then I’d tell them that I’ll go along with manslaughter and we’re home for dinner. Or keep pushing for more and we’ll be here day after day because I’m not convicting this guy of murder.
Pretty sure the others would take my offer and call it a day.
^^definitely likely scenario.
I would never agree to either of those, so if we were both on the jury, guess we'd be there for a while until we declared hung jury.
Same. No way I’d go along with that BS.
I served as a juror on a clear case of manslaughter. Father beat his infant for crying too much and baby died from severe blows to head. What PP described above is really what it sounds like being on a jury. It's just so damn sad.
Oh my. You must have been totally traumatized by that. I can't imagine.
It was awful. That poor mother. It was the third trial following two prior mistrials due to jury shenanigans like what was reported above. Jurors never talked about the admissible evidence, only the stuff that judge moved to strike from record. And some jurors felt it necessary to consider how bad their parents had it in jail so why should someone else go through that. Nothing at trial that should've been relevant where between jurors when doors were closed. Now, many years later, I know that if it ever comes down to jury trial, avoid at all costs. Jurors are humans who bring their baggage and biases into it and are really bitter about being there.
And I really wanted that dad to rot in jail.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If I were a juror, I’d first vote to acquit on all charges (too much chaos to blame the officer trying to control a huge guy on drugs). But if a bunch of others want to convict, then I’d tell them that I’ll go along with manslaughter and we’re home for dinner. Or keep pushing for more and we’ll be here day after day because I’m not convicting this guy of murder.
Pretty sure the others would take my offer and call it a day.
^^definitely likely scenario.
I would never agree to either of those, so if we were both on the jury, guess we'd be there for a while until we declared hung jury.
Same. No way I’d go along with that BS.
I served as a juror on a clear case of manslaughter. Father beat his infant for crying too much and baby died from severe blows to head. What PP described above is really what it sounds like being on a jury. It's just so damn sad.
Oh my. You must have been totally traumatized by that. I can't imagine.
It was awful. That poor mother. It was the third trial following two prior mistrials due to jury shenanigans like what was reported above. Jurors never talked about the admissible evidence, only the stuff that judge moved to strike from record. And some jurors felt it necessary to consider how bad their parents had it in jail so why should someone else go through that. Nothing at trial that should've been relevant where between jurors when doors were closed. Now, many years later, I know that if it ever comes down to jury trial, avoid at all costs. Jurors are humans who bring their baggage and biases into it and are really bitter about being there.
And I really wanted that dad to rot in jail.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If I were a juror, I’d first vote to acquit on all charges (too much chaos to blame the officer trying to control a huge guy on drugs). But if a bunch of others want to convict, then I’d tell them that I’ll go along with manslaughter and we’re home for dinner. Or keep pushing for more and we’ll be here day after day because I’m not convicting this guy of murder.
Pretty sure the others would take my offer and call it a day.
Glad you’re not a juror because you’re wrong.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If I were a juror, I’d first vote to acquit on all charges (too much chaos to blame the officer trying to control a huge guy on drugs). But if a bunch of others want to convict, then I’d tell them that I’ll go along with manslaughter and we’re home for dinner. Or keep pushing for more and we’ll be here day after day because I’m not convicting this guy of murder.
Pretty sure the others would take my offer and call it a day.
^^definitely likely scenario.
I would never agree to either of those, so if we were both on the jury, guess we'd be there for a while until we declared hung jury.
Same. No way I’d go along with that BS.
This. You're supposed to vote your conscience, not negotiate to get home fastest. I'd like to believe I would hold my ground until convinced otherwise.
I don't think the jurors here are the want to go home fast types...Presumably the people who really just want to go home fast would have found a way to get out of jury duty for a murder trial the first place. Id think it would be pretty easy to get disqualified for this jury.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If I were a juror, I’d first vote to acquit on all charges (too much chaos to blame the officer trying to control a huge guy on drugs). But if a bunch of others want to convict, then I’d tell them that I’ll go along with manslaughter and we’re home for dinner. Or keep pushing for more and we’ll be here day after day because I’m not convicting this guy of murder.
Pretty sure the others would take my offer and call it a day.
^^definitely likely scenario.
I would never agree to either of those, so if we were both on the jury, guess we'd be there for a while until we declared hung jury.
Same. No way I’d go along with that BS.
I served as a juror on a clear case of manslaughter. Father beat his infant for crying too much and baby died from severe blows to head. What PP described above is really what it sounds like being on a jury. It's just so damn sad.
Oh my. You must have been totally traumatized by that. I can't imagine.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:To play devil’s advocate, the jury found OJ Simpson not guilty in less than 4 hours of deliberation. This was nine hours
They only deliberated 6 hours to reach the not guilty verdict after the Rodney King beating.
And Casey Anthony was acquitted after 10 hours, so about the same time
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If I were a juror, I’d first vote to acquit on all charges (too much chaos to blame the officer trying to control a huge guy on drugs). But if a bunch of others want to convict, then I’d tell them that I’ll go along with manslaughter and we’re home for dinner. Or keep pushing for more and we’ll be here day after day because I’m not convicting this guy of murder.
Pretty sure the others would take my offer and call it a day.
^^definitely likely scenario.
I would never agree to either of those, so if we were both on the jury, guess we'd be there for a while until we declared hung jury.
Same. No way I’d go along with that BS.
This. You're supposed to vote your conscience, not negotiate to get home fastest. I'd like to believe I would hold my ground until convinced otherwise.