Anonymous
05/21/2019 22:22
Subject: Official Abortion Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
They’re saying that for all the parents
showing off and framing their sonogram photo,
EVERYONE can see it’s a baby!
And that’s NOT helping the abortion industry.
Oops.
+1 Because it IS their baby--God's creation--growing inside its mom.
Ok. And some aren’t wanted. It’s very sad, but reality.
PP here. Yes. You're absolutely right, although what I wrote is also true.
Anonymous
05/21/2019 20:48
Subject: Official Abortion Thread
Kristen Wiig’s new movie pulls out of filming in Georgia.
https://variety.com/2019/film/news/kristen-wiig-new-movie-pulls-out-of-georgia-1203222635/
https://variety.com/2019/film/news/kristen-wiig-new-movie-pulls-out-of-georgia-1203222635/
Anonymous
05/21/2019 20:37
Subject: Official Abortion Thread
Anonymous wrote:Just two men (of course) at The Federalist (of course) arguing that women should be prosecuted for having abortions.
https://thefederalist.com/2019/05/21/3-negative-consequences-not-prosecuting-parents-obtaining-abortions/
Only women should be allowed to discuss snuffing life.
Anonymous
05/21/2019 20:23
Subject: Official Abortion Thread
Just two men (of course) at The Federalist (of course) arguing that women should be prosecuted for having abortions.
https://thefederalist.com/2019/05/21/3-negative-consequences-not-prosecuting-parents-obtaining-abortions/
https://thefederalist.com/2019/05/21/3-negative-consequences-not-prosecuting-parents-obtaining-abortions/
Anonymous
05/21/2019 20:22
Subject: Official Abortion Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
They’re saying that for all the parents
showing off and framing their sonogram photo,
EVERYONE can see it’s a baby!
And that’s NOT helping the abortion industry.
Oops.
+1 Because it IS their baby--God's creation--growing inside its mom.
My religious beliefs say that a soul doesn’t enter a baby until the quickening, around 20 weeks. Up until then the
fetus a simply a carapace and not an ensouled person. That’s my religious freedom to believe that and you can’t deny me my religious freedom. Therefore your attempt to force me to carry an unwanted pregnancy does not have legal standing.
Anonymous
05/21/2019 19:29
Subject: Official Abortion Thread
So in Alabama, if you’re convicted of murder, you permanently lose your right to vote. I guess that means if a woman were charged and convicted under the new law for aborting a child conceived from rape, she would lose her voting rights if she doesn’t die in prison. At least if he’s convicted, voting rights would be rescinded for her rapist as well, although he would likely get a shorter sentence IF he’s caught and convicted.
Sounds like a solid plan. Take away women’s rights to choose what happens to their own bodies, then take away their rights to vote if they still try to exercise control over their uteruses.
Sounds like a solid plan. Take away women’s rights to choose what happens to their own bodies, then take away their rights to vote if they still try to exercise control over their uteruses.
Anonymous
05/21/2019 18:41
Subject: Official Abortion Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
They’re saying that for all the parents
showing off and framing their sonogram photo,
EVERYONE can see it’s a baby!
And that’s NOT helping the abortion industry.
Oops.
+1 Because it IS their baby--God's creation--growing inside its mom.
Ok. And some aren’t wanted. It’s very sad, but reality.
Anonymous
05/21/2019 18:29
Subject: Official Abortion Thread
Anonymous wrote:
They’re saying that for all the parents
showing off and framing their sonogram photo,
EVERYONE can see it’s a baby!
And that’s NOT helping the abortion industry.
Oops.
+1 Because it IS their baby--God's creation--growing inside its mom.
Anonymous
05/21/2019 18:01
Subject: Re:Official Abortion Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.npr.org/sections/memmos/2019/05/15/723678750/guidance-reminder-on-abortion-procedures-terminology-rights?ft=nprml&f=
No bias here at NPR. Just move along.........
Using proper terminology is bias?
Obviously. So are presenting facts and science.
Anonymous
05/21/2019 18:00
Subject: Re:Official Abortion Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://www.npr.org/sections/memmos/2019/05/15/723678750/guidance-reminder-on-abortion-procedures-terminology-rights?ft=nprml&f=
No bias here at NPR. Just move along.........
Using proper terminology is bias?
There’s that pesky science again.
Anonymous
05/21/2019 17:40
Subject: Re:Official Abortion Thread
Anonymous wrote:https://www.npr.org/sections/memmos/2019/05/15/723678750/guidance-reminder-on-abortion-procedures-terminology-rights?ft=nprml&f=
No bias here at NPR. Just move along.........
Using proper terminology is bias?
Anonymous
05/21/2019 17:15
Subject: Re:Official Abortion Thread
https://www.npr.org/sections/memmos/2019/05/15/723678750/guidance-reminder-on-abortion-procedures-terminology-rights?ft=nprml&f=
No bias here at NPR. Just move along.........
No bias here at NPR. Just move along.........
Anonymous
05/21/2019 17:05
Subject: Official Abortion Thread
“A federal judge in Jackson, Mississippi said that the state's controversial "fetal heartbeat" law "smacks of defiance" after hearing arguments seeking to temporarily block the anti-abortion legislation on Tuesday morning, CBS affiliate WJTV reports.”
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mississippi-abortion-laws-mississippi-abortion-bill-smacks-of-defiance-says-federal-judge-carleton-reeves-2019-05-21/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mississippi-abortion-laws-mississippi-abortion-bill-smacks-of-defiance-says-federal-judge-carleton-reeves-2019-05-21/
Anonymous
05/21/2019 15:54
Subject: Official Abortion Thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:so if you believe that fetal rights begin at heartbeat then what is your stance on abortion if it threatens the life of the mother? Does the rights of the fetus supersede the right of the mother's life?
Good question. The logic of the extreme anti-abortion faction (that the fetus is a legal person from conception) would suggest that the life & health of the mother isn't enough of a reason to kill the other person. There is such thing as self-defense, but only in cases where the other party is a violent aggressor.
I’m adamantly pro choice, but I’ve never understood maternal health or rape/incest exceptions from the anti choice side. If abortion is murder, then it’s still murder in those cases too. I’m glad they exist because while I think any woman should have the right to end a pregnancy, I think women who are rape/incest survivors and mothers whose pregnancies put them at risk are some of the most vulnerable people and should definitely have access to abortions. It just seems like a hypocritical stance. However, I feel like calling people out on it might paint them into a corner and make them push to stop having those exceptions.
Right? I mean if you decide a taped woman/girl has more rights over her body than the embryo/fetus inside her, but think the situation is reversed if the couple’s birth control failed or they didn’t use any, then you are basically making a judgment not on the intrinsic worth of the embryo/fetus but on the mode of conception, that is you are judging the woman for whether she was stupid, careless, or slutty. So when it comes down to it, you don’t really value the embryo.
Yes. It ALWAYS comes back to this.
It always does. I’ve heard some conservatives say they don’t feel there should be rape exemptions because it will encourage women to make false accusations and ruin men’s lives just to get an abortion, and relatively few women get pregnant from rapes. I wholeheartedly disagree, but at least those people are consistent in valuing men’s rights and the embryos’ rights more than they value women’s rights or women and children’s quality of life.
Anonymous
05/21/2019 15:50
Subject: Official Abortion Thread
They’re saying that for all the parents
showing off and framing their sonogram photo,
EVERYONE can see it’s a baby!
And that’s NOT helping the abortion industry.
Oops.