Anonymous
Post 04/12/2017 11:29     Subject: Don't fly United

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United Airlines knew the guy was a ethnic MINORITY by his last name. Duh.


Lots of people have "ethnic" last names due to marriage who are not that minority, and vice versa.

United messed up in this situatino in many ways, but I really doubt they are targeting Asians as part of some master plan to discriminate.


Unfortunately for United, many people in Asia don't see it that way now.


Foreign carriers make up 2/3 of the service from the Far East to the US:
https://www.transportation.gov/sites/dot.gov/files/docs/US%20International%20Air%20Passenger%20and%20Freight%20Statistics%20Report%20for%20December%202015.pdf

So United doesn't have much to lose.

Also, their stock is up today to where it was before the incident:
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/UAL?p=UAL

How quickly people forget...


United invested in flights to large cities in China seeing it as a growth market. This will be a problem for them. Mark my words, their earnings will fall this year and their stock will suffer when earning results come out next quarter.


Yes, but it's not a lot. Seasonal service to Xi'an 3x a week. 3x a week service to Chengdu and Hangzhou. All their other flights are to the Beijing and Shanghai, just like other US carriers.

So United sells more seats per day on the Washington-San Francisco route than they sell in a week to Chengdu, Xi'an, and Hangzhou.

You're living in the past, my friend. United is toast.


I think that's wishful thinking. People have short term memories, and airlines have consolidated so much that for many routes, alternate options are limited. I guarantee that when given the choice of a direct United flight vs. a connecting flight on another airline, they will usually prefer the direct. The other big domestic airlines aren't that great anyway- only Southwest and JetBlue offer a somewhat pleasant experience these days, IME.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2017 11:28     Subject: Don't fly United

Anonymous wrote:It appears that United investors are being beaten again today. I meant "re-accommodated". Sorry.


https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/UAL?p=UAL

-0.82% hardly counts as a beating. It's back to where it was.. last week!
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2017 11:28     Subject: Don't fly United

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Anonymous wrote:United is suffering from Trump-like stupidity at its helm.

I think they also forbid 12 year girls from boarding the plane because they were wearing leggings?



That was a totally different situation and one that was understandable. The girls were riding on a “buddy pass” which has dress codes for people traveling using it.
We have used a buddy pass before and were told by the person providing it that we had to dress a certain way. Those are the rules.

They didn’t handle this one well. It should have all been taken care of at the gate, before anyone boarded.

And, BTW, nice political reference there. Do you throw out politics with every post you make?



Can you explain this further? What is a "buddy pass" and why is the dress code different for those passengers? What else is forbidden besides leggings?!

Not the PP, but it's a pass for United employees and their families to use. They expect you not to wear flipflops, ratty Tshirts, etc, since you are representing the company.


Yea, wouldn't want to represent such an esteemed company poorly!
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2017 11:27     Subject: Don't fly United

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:United is suffering from Trump-like stupidity at its helm.

I think they also forbid 12 year girls from boarding the plane because they were wearing leggings?



That was a totally different situation and one that was understandable. The girls were riding on a “buddy pass” which has dress codes for people traveling using it.
We have used a buddy pass before and were told by the person providing it that we had to dress a certain way. Those are the rules.

They didn’t handle this one well. It should have all been taken care of at the gate, before anyone boarded.

And, BTW, nice political reference there. Do you throw out politics with every post you make?



Can you explain this further? What is a "buddy pass" and why is the dress code different for those passengers? What else is forbidden besides leggings?!

Not the PP, but it's a pass for United employees and their families to use. They expect you not to wear flipflops, ratty Tshirts, etc, since you are representing the company.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2017 11:19     Subject: Don't fly United

It appears that United investors are being beaten again today. I meant "re-accommodated". Sorry.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2017 11:13     Subject: Don't fly United

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Anonymous wrote:What about the fact that all that press alleged that this David Dao is the same David Dao convicted of several felonies and taken to the medical board for trading drugs for sex. BECAUSE THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

So not only is this poor man victimized by United on the plan and injured, then his video is plastered all over the internet and then "dirt" is dug out about his "sketchy" past and spread all over the world and debated whether it is relevant to him being removed from the plane, and the media can't even double confirm it's the same guy. United and every single medial that print or aired that story needs to be sued. this poor man. I am so disgusted with all of them.

I have a name that others have. I first learned about it when creditors kept calling and threatening me for unpaid bills to Sears, Amex, etc., It wasn't a case of stolen identity. It was that someone else out there has my name as well and I have theirs. Google yourself. This shit can happen to anyone. OMFG.


The jury seems to be put whether it is him or not. Hopefully some investigation will reveal the truth.


Different middle names
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2017 11:10     Subject: Don't fly United

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

United Airlines knew the guy was a ethnic MINORITY by his last name. Duh.


Lots of people have "ethnic" last names due to marriage who are not that minority, and vice versa.

United messed up in this situatino in many ways, but I really doubt they are targeting Asians as part of some master plan to discriminate.


Unfortunately for United, many people in Asia don't see it that way now.


Foreign carriers make up 2/3 of the service from the Far East to the US:
https://www.transportation.gov/sites/dot.gov/files/docs/US%20International%20Air%20Passenger%20and%20Freight%20Statistics%20Report%20for%20December%202015.pdf

So United doesn't have much to lose.

Also, their stock is up today to where it was before the incident:
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/UAL?p=UAL

How quickly people forget...


United invested in flights to large cities in China seeing it as a growth market. This will be a problem for them. Mark my words, their earnings will fall this year and their stock will suffer when earning results come out next quarter.


Yes, but it's not a lot. Seasonal service to Xi'an 3x a week. 3x a week service to Chengdu and Hangzhou. All their other flights are to the Beijing and Shanghai, just like other US carriers.

So United sells more seats per day on the Washington-San Francisco route than they sell in a week to Chengdu, Xi'an, and Hangzhou.

You're living in the past, my friend. United is toast.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2017 11:10     Subject: Don't fly United

Anonymous wrote:What about the fact that all that press alleged that this David Dao is the same David Dao convicted of several felonies and taken to the medical board for trading drugs for sex. BECAUSE THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

So not only is this poor man victimized by United on the plan and injured, then his video is plastered all over the internet and then "dirt" is dug out about his "sketchy" past and spread all over the world and debated whether it is relevant to him being removed from the plane, and the media can't even double confirm it's the same guy. United and every single medial that print or aired that story needs to be sued. this poor man. I am so disgusted with all of them.

I have a name that others have. I first learned about it when creditors kept calling and threatening me for unpaid bills to Sears, Amex, etc., It wasn't a case of stolen identity. It was that someone else out there has my name as well and I have theirs. Google yourself. This shit can happen to anyone. OMFG.


The jury seems to be put whether it is him or not. Hopefully some investigation will reveal the truth.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2017 11:09     Subject: Don't fly United

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:United is suffering from Trump-like stupidity at its helm.

I think they also forbid 12 year girls from boarding the plane because they were wearing leggings?



That was a totally different situation and one that was understandable. The girls were riding on a “buddy pass” which has dress codes for people traveling using it.
We have used a buddy pass before and were told by the person providing it that we had to dress a certain way. Those are the rules.

They didn’t handle this one well. It should have all been taken care of at the gate, before anyone boarded.

And, BTW, nice political reference there. Do you throw out politics with every post you make?



Can you explain this further? What is a "buddy pass" and why is the dress code different for those passengers? What else is forbidden besides leggings?!
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2017 10:54     Subject: Don't fly United

What about the fact that all that press alleged that this David Dao is the same David Dao convicted of several felonies and taken to the medical board for trading drugs for sex. BECAUSE THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

So not only is this poor man victimized by United on the plan and injured, then his video is plastered all over the internet and then "dirt" is dug out about his "sketchy" past and spread all over the world and debated whether it is relevant to him being removed from the plane, and the media can't even double confirm it's the same guy. United and every single medial that print or aired that story needs to be sued. this poor man. I am so disgusted with all of them.

I have a name that others have. I first learned about it when creditors kept calling and threatening me for unpaid bills to Sears, Amex, etc., It wasn't a case of stolen identity. It was that someone else out there has my name as well and I have theirs. Google yourself. This shit can happen to anyone. OMFG.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2017 10:50     Subject: Don't fly United

Anonymous wrote:United is suffering from Trump-like stupidity at its helm.

I think they also forbid 12 year girls from boarding the plane because they were wearing leggings?



That was a totally different situation and one that was understandable. The girls were riding on a “buddy pass” which has dress codes for people traveling using it.
We have used a buddy pass before and were told by the person providing it that we had to dress a certain way. Those are the rules.

They didn’t handle this one well. It should have all been taken care of at the gate, before anyone boarded.

And, BTW, nice political reference there. Do you throw out politics with every post you make?

Anonymous
Post 04/12/2017 10:43     Subject: Don't fly United

United is suffering from Trump-like stupidity at its helm.

I think they also forbid 12 year girls from boarding the plane because they were wearing leggings?

Anonymous
Post 04/12/2017 10:42     Subject: Don't fly United

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

United Airlines knew the guy was a ethnic MINORITY by his last name. Duh.


Lots of people have "ethnic" last names due to marriage who are not that minority, and vice versa.

United messed up in this situatino in many ways, but I really doubt they are targeting Asians as part of some master plan to discriminate.


Unfortunately for United, many people in Asia don't see it that way now.


Foreign carriers make up 2/3 of the service from the Far East to the US:
https://www.transportation.gov/sites/dot.gov/files/docs/US%20International%20Air%20Passenger%20and%20Freight%20Statistics%20Report%20for%20December%202015.pdf

So United doesn't have much to lose.

Also, their stock is up today to where it was before the incident:
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/UAL?p=UAL

How quickly people forget...


United invested in flights to large cities in China seeing it as a growth market. This will be a problem for them. Mark my words, their earnings will fall this year and their stock will suffer when earning results come out next quarter.


Yes, but it's not a lot. Seasonal service to Xi'an 3x a week. 3x a week service to Chengdu and Hangzhou. All their other flights are to the Beijing and Shanghai, just like other US carriers.

So United sells more seats per day on the Washington-San Francisco route than they sell in a week to Chengdu, Xi'an, and Hangzhou.


It's not only the Chinese that are absolutely disgusted.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2017 10:41     Subject: Don't fly United

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

United Airlines knew the guy was a ethnic MINORITY by his last name. Duh.


Lots of people have "ethnic" last names due to marriage who are not that minority, and vice versa.

United messed up in this situatino in many ways, but I really doubt they are targeting Asians as part of some master plan to discriminate.


Unfortunately for United, many people in Asia don't see it that way now.


Foreign carriers make up 2/3 of the service from the Far East to the US:
https://www.transportation.gov/sites/dot.gov/files/docs/US%20International%20Air%20Passenger%20and%20Freight%20Statistics%20Report%20for%20December%202015.pdf

So United doesn't have much to lose.

Also, their stock is up today to where it was before the incident:
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/UAL?p=UAL

How quickly people forget...


United invested in flights to large cities in China seeing it as a growth market. This will be a problem for them. Mark my words, their earnings will fall this year and their stock will suffer when earning results come out next quarter.


Yes, but it's not a lot. Seasonal service to Xi'an 3x a week. 3x a week service to Chengdu and Hangzhou. All their other flights are to the Beijing and Shanghai, just like other US carriers.

So United sells more seats per day on the Washington-San Francisco route than they sell in a week to Chengdu, Xi'an, and Hangzhou.
Anonymous
Post 04/12/2017 10:32     Subject: Re:Don't fly United

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can't wait to see his press release and news about litigation. He should definitely sue, along with the other passengers that got inconvenienced in this flight, it has been an emotionally draining ordeal for a lot of people!


I hope he sues the crap out of them -- and I'm not really a proponent of litigation.


But this Corporation deserves it! Someone needs to remind people of common decency.