Anyone else starting to find Chelsea and Cole really annoying? I'm glad they are happy, but the ridiculous cutesy baby talk all the time makes my ears hurt. If some guy I was with sang in a baby voice that our unborn baby has a "weiner" I think that that might be a deal killer for me.

Anonymous wrote:Jo really needs to shed the weight. He's gained like 70 lbs in 5 years and he's not even 25 yet. Not working? Then at least spend some serious time at the gym.

I agree. His personality has changed SO MUCH for the better, and I really applaud him for that. Now it's time to work on the outside since the inside is good. Poor Vee - she moved to the middle of nowhere for this guy with moobs, is a sweet step-mother to his son, and has to deal with SO MUCH drama from King Kail.

Jo really needs to shed the weight. He's gained like 70 lbs in 5 years and he's not even 25 yet. Not working? Then at least spend some serious time at the gym.

Jo still loves Kail. I feel bad for him. I also think he should work…at least part time. Keep your skills up with your family company.

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone notice how snappy Vee has gotten lately with Joe and Kail? Looks like she is tired of the drama. She stood of for Javi and Joe and Kail both gave her the side eye for it

Loved what she said about karma biting Kail and Javi in the ass for how they treated Jo and Vee.

Did anyone notice how snappy Vee has gotten lately with Joe and Kail? Looks like she is tired of the drama. She stood of for Javi and Joe and Kail both gave her the side eye for it

These girls get a ton from money from MTV. They have time and money to go to college. They could've gone to beauty school before the MTV money came along. I don't think any of the teen moms has earned a 4 year degree. It's a shame that they aren't making better use of their money for educational purposes. I hope they are investing it b/c here will come a time when it ends. A least if they have a 4 year degree, they could live a life closer to what they have now, flush with MTV cash. If they are cut off and they haven't saved, their lifestyles will take a dive.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I LOL at last night's episode where Leah said she wanted her daughters to see how important education is by going back to beauty school.

You don't get your hair cut?

Yeah, Leah is a hot mess, but going to "beauty school" is a pretty good role model for her girls, as would any trade school, career training, community college, four-year university, or even military. Versus, say, loafing around, bouncing from one quick marriage and divorce to the next, and having children with various fathers. Beauty school signifies some kind of awareness of the future.

+1.

Anonymous wrote:I agree that Joe is a decent guy and a good dad but do him or his fiance work?? I would think he would be bright enough to realize Teen Mom money isn't forever. He came from (what appeared to be) an upper middle class life so I would think he would want to extend that lifestyle to his own kids.

Jo has been clear that he doesn't work, doesn't need to right now, and doesn't intend to, as long as he has the TM paycheck. In the past when he was called out, he pointed out that his kids are the most important thing, and he wants to keep his time with Isaac as a priority. Right now, he can take Isaac with a moment's notice and be there for any of his events. I really can't fault the guy. There's no reason for him to work if he can financially support his family, which he can, and he's not using it as an excuse to party 24/7 and have lots of babies. He worked on 16&P and for the earlier seasons of TM, at his parents' copy repair business. I imagine when the TM money train ends, he'll have no problem jumping back into the work force, possibly back at the copy business. Who knows, maybe he'll own it one day.

Watching the last episode, it was depressing when David claimed that Jace acts so much better when he's with him and Jenelle, vs. with Barb. first of all, David has no clue how Jace behaves with Barb, and second, any bad behavior from Jace is probably an indication that he feels safe with Barb. He can let out his frustrations and act up because he trusts her and knows that she will still love him. Around Jenelle and David, he always looks scared to death.

I agree that Joe is a decent guy and a good dad but do him or his fiance work?? I would think he would be bright enough to realize Teen Mom money isn't forever. He came from (what appeared to be) an upper middle class life so I would think he would want to extend that lifestyle to his own kids.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I LOL at last night's episode where Leah said she wanted her daughters to see how important education is by going back to beauty school.

You don't get your hair cut?

Yeah, Leah is a hot mess, but going to "beauty school" is a pretty good role model for her girls, as would any trade school, career training, community college, four-year university, or even military. Versus, say, loafing around, bouncing from one quick marriage and divorce to the next, and having children with various fathers. Beauty school signifies some kind of awareness of the future.

Anonymous wrote:I LOL at last night's episode where Leah said she wanted her daughters to see how important education is by going back to beauty school.

You don't get your hair cut?

I LOL at last night's episode where Leah said she wanted her daughters to see how important education is by going back to beauty school.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh yeah the clip of Kail telling Javi she would be getting Lincoln every Christmas at her house so he could spend it with Isaac. lol I would LOVE to see Jo try to tell Kail the exact same argument with Vivi. I'm so sure she would see the reasoning.

Reminds me of when Jo first started dating Vee, Kail was so opposed to her being g around Isaac...Yet had no problem bringing guys around him. Extremely selfish, or totally lacking Insight?

Hypocrisy.

Speaking of hypocrisy, remember when Javi and Kail were trying to get blood out of a stone from poor Jo, wanting more and more child support. I wonder how excited Javi will be to hand over his cash to Kail now. It should be interested to see! My, how the tables have turned!

Seriously. Javi had a front row seat to watch Kail and Jo and will get the exact same treatment.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If what Kail wrote in her memoir is true then it explains why she is so dysfunctional. She, like the majority of these girls, needs to really be in weekly counseling sessions. It's getting really painful to watch, but I can't look away from the train wreck.

Kail had a fucked up childhood with zero role models for life, let alone healthy relationships. Yet she has also done nothing to address those issues. She needs intensive therapy, there is no doubt.

She clearly thrives on negative attention. I don't think she's ever gotten positive attention, so this is typical. She pushes and pushes and grates on the nerves of the men in her life, and they push right back in protest. Jo doesn't seem to push back anymore, and so it doesn't work with him anymore. Somehow, Jo has gained control in their relationship. I think because he just stopped doing what she wanted (think of he she balked at him moving to DE, but he did it anyway!) Javi will learn to stop pushing back and just do what he's going to do. Eh knows what will happen with #3 now.