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Anonymous wrote:I still don't understand the rationale to move one street (with a few secondary courts) in Franklin Farm to Lees Corner and Westfield. That particular street-- Tuckaway-- connects to Thompson Road, which is where Navy is. If that street has to be different from the remainder of the development, why not move them to Navy?

Franklin Farm currently feeds into two high schools, but they might now feed into three?

Make it make sense...

It’s not just Tuckaway - they also proposed doing that to Hidden Meadow and Thorngate on the east side of Franklin farm.

Sending them to Westfield, as well?

The logic is, they need kids to go to Westfield.

That's not the point.

I have nothing against Westfield.

My concern is splitting ONE street (with a few secondary streets) in the development to a different high school. I also can't figure out why Tuckaway doesn't go to Navy since it is perpendicular to the road off which Navy sits.

If they chose to change a bunch of Franklin Farm to Westfield, I wouldn't question it. I just think it's very strange that they chose only Tuckaway.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why Crossfield has Franklin - Skyview in one scenario only? And why wouldn’t it be Carson - Skyview when Franklin is going to be an Oakton feeder? Make it make sense!

Because Crossfield to Skyview is not such an obvious choice.

The trip from Crossfield to Skyview would be much shorter than the current commute to Oakton, which is a valid point.

That said, if Crossfield switched to Franklin Middle and stayed at Oakton High, while Oak Hill switched to Carson Middle and Skyview, it would eliminate a split feeder pattern, another criteria.

Fox Mill is as close to Skyview as Crossfield is, if not closer

It appears that more Fox Mill families would send kids to Skyview than Crossfield families.

Community input isn’t everything, but it should carry weight.

But I agree that if Crossfield gets moved to Skyview, it should stay at Carson. That part doesn't make sense.

Closer != faster.

Left turns, stop light timing, number of stops lights, speed limits, traffic density, propensity for accidents and the like.

That's just too simplistic.

I live in Franklin Farm. Trust me when I tell you it is far safer for a teen to drive from my neighborhood to Skyview (big, wide open roads, maybe 5 stop lights total and really only one left turn) than it is for them to drive on narrow windy roads with a ton of blind spots to get to Oakton.

Um, your kid can....
get on west ox (nice big road), then get on rt 50 (nice big road), get on i66 (nice big road), get off on 123 (nice big road) , then get on germantown (nice big road).

Each of these roads is at least 2 lanes in each direction....

They're not required to go on fox mill, whaples mill, or bennet.

66 is a HIGHWAY. It gets backed up, merging is insane. I know this, I do this every. signal. day. I see fender benders on 66 at least twice a month.

Old enough to remember when 2 Oakton students were killed on it 50 on the way home from 2nd day of school.

Unfortunately, HS drivers are killed on wide roads with 35 mile an hour speed limits because HS drivers are less experienced and more prone to making poor decisions regarding speed.

And in all honesty, seeing a few fender benders a month is not really that big a deal, they are a relativly rare event given the amount of traffic on the road. I am not saying that the distance and road conditions are a reason to move or not move but I don't think that the likelihood of an accident or event with teenagers involved changes that much. Teens are already at a far higher risk for accidents regardless of where they are driving.

DP.

Wild how dismissive you are of kids’ deaths when they don’t fit your narrative.

Statistics are statistics. I can find awful examples of all sorts of things that I find disturbing, drunk driving deaths, teen driving deaths, child molestation, school shootings. They are all horrific and they are all rare events. Awful, life changing for many people, rare events. You can point to the death of teen drivers on the highway and other people can point to the death of teen drivers on a flat road with a 35 mile an hour speed limit. Both are horrific, does either really impact the decision for boundaries?

People want to use their worst case scenarios to make their case so that they get what they want, it is manipulative and you know it. So calling out people pointing to cases that occur on the other side of the coin and calling them dismissive is only slightly hypocritical.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why Crossfield has Franklin - Skyview in one scenario only? And why wouldn’t it be Carson - Skyview when Franklin is going to be an Oakton feeder? Make it make sense!

Because Crossfield to Skyview is not such an obvious choice.

The trip from Crossfield to Skyview would be much shorter than the current commute to Oakton, which is a valid point.

That said, if Crossfield switched to Franklin Middle and stayed at Oakton High, while Oak Hill switched to Carson Middle and Skyview, it would eliminate a split feeder pattern, another criteria.

Fox Mill is as close to Skyview as Crossfield is, if not closer

It appears that more Fox Mill families would send kids to Skyview than Crossfield families.

Community input isn’t everything, but it should carry weight.

But I agree that if Crossfield gets moved to Skyview, it should stay at Carson. That part doesn't make sense.

Closer != faster.

Left turns, stop light timing, number of stops lights, speed limits, traffic density, propensity for accidents and the like.

That's just too simplistic.

I live in Franklin Farm. Trust me when I tell you it is far safer for a teen to drive from my neighborhood to Skyview (big, wide open roads, maybe 5 stop lights total and really only one left turn) than it is for them to drive on narrow windy roads with a ton of blind spots to get to Oakton.

Um, your kid can....
get on west ox (nice big road), then get on rt 50 (nice big road), get on i66 (nice big road), get off on 123 (nice big road) , then get on germantown (nice big road).

Each of these roads is at least 2 lanes in each direction....

They're not required to go on fox mill, whaples mill, or bennet.

66 is a HIGHWAY. It gets backed up, merging is insane. I know this, I do this every. signal. day. I see fender benders on 66 at least twice a month.

Old enough to remember when 2 Oakton students were killed on it 50 on the way home from 2nd day of school.

Unfortunately, HS drivers are killed on wide roads with 35 mile an hour speed limits because HS drivers are less experienced and more prone to making poor decisions regarding speed.

And in all honesty, seeing a few fender benders a month is not really that big a deal, they are a relativly rare event given the amount of traffic on the road. I am not saying that the distance and road conditions are a reason to move or not move but I don't think that the likelihood of an accident or event with teenagers involved changes that much. Teens are already at a far higher risk for accidents regardless of where they are driving.

DP.

Wild how dismissive you are of kids’ deaths when they don’t fit your narrative.

DP. You will all play whatever rhetorical games serve your preferred schools narrative. There's no point in your pretending you're more considerate than anyone else because you've all behaved so badly.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why Crossfield has Franklin - Skyview in one scenario only? And why wouldn’t it be Carson - Skyview when Franklin is going to be an Oakton feeder? Make it make sense!

Because Crossfield to Skyview is not such an obvious choice.

The trip from Crossfield to Skyview would be much shorter than the current commute to Oakton, which is a valid point.

That said, if Crossfield switched to Franklin Middle and stayed at Oakton High, while Oak Hill switched to Carson Middle and Skyview, it would eliminate a split feeder pattern, another criteria.

Fox Mill is as close to Skyview as Crossfield is, if not closer

It appears that more Fox Mill families would send kids to Skyview than Crossfield families.

Community input isn’t everything, but it should carry weight.

But I agree that if Crossfield gets moved to Skyview, it should stay at Carson. That part doesn't make sense.

Closer != faster.

Left turns, stop light timing, number of stops lights, speed limits, traffic density, propensity for accidents and the like.

That's just too simplistic.

I live in Franklin Farm. Trust me when I tell you it is far safer for a teen to drive from my neighborhood to Skyview (big, wide open roads, maybe 5 stop lights total and really only one left turn) than it is for them to drive on narrow windy roads with a ton of blind spots to get to Oakton.

Um, your kid can....
get on west ox (nice big road), then get on rt 50 (nice big road), get on i66 (nice big road), get off on 123 (nice big road) , then get on germantown (nice big road).

Each of these roads is at least 2 lanes in each direction....

They're not required to go on fox mill, whaples mill, or bennet.

66 is a HIGHWAY. It gets backed up, merging is insane. I know this, I do this every. signal. day. I see fender benders on 66 at least twice a month.

Old enough to remember when 2 Oakton students were killed on it 50 on the way home from 2nd day of school.

Unfortunately, HS drivers are killed on wide roads with 35 mile an hour speed limits because HS drivers are less experienced and more prone to making poor decisions regarding speed.

And in all honesty, seeing a few fender benders a month is not really that big a deal, they are a relativly rare event given the amount of traffic on the road. I am not saying that the distance and road conditions are a reason to move or not move but I don't think that the likelihood of an accident or event with teenagers involved changes that much. Teens are already at a far higher risk for accidents regardless of where they are driving.

DP.

Wild how dismissive you are of kids’ deaths when they don’t fit your narrative.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why Crossfield has Franklin - Skyview in one scenario only? And why wouldn’t it be Carson - Skyview when Franklin is going to be an Oakton feeder? Make it make sense!

Because Crossfield to Skyview is not such an obvious choice.

The trip from Crossfield to Skyview would be much shorter than the current commute to Oakton, which is a valid point.

That said, if Crossfield switched to Franklin Middle and stayed at Oakton High, while Oak Hill switched to Carson Middle and Skyview, it would eliminate a split feeder pattern, another criteria.

Fox Mill is as close to Skyview as Crossfield is, if not closer

It appears that more Fox Mill families would send kids to Skyview than Crossfield families.

Community input isn’t everything, but it should carry weight.

But I agree that if Crossfield gets moved to Skyview, it should stay at Carson. That part doesn't make sense.

The difference is that Crossfield family have a much longer commute to Oakton than Fox Mill families have to South Lakes. It's comparative. We really need to alleviate the commute, therefore families like McNair, Coates, Floris, Crossfield who have 20+ drives to high school should be prioritized.

The distance/commute is not a sole criteria.

Reducing/elminating a split feeder pattern is also a criteria. And community feedback should matter too.

You're absolutely right. Fox Mill really should be moved to Hughes. Thank you.

Fox Mill to Hughes is not going to happen. It is only discussed on this board. Even Meren doesn't support it now.

The likely outcome is either

Fox Mill - Carson - SLHS / Crossfield - Carson - Skyview

or

Fox Mill - Carson - Skyview / Crossfield - Franklin - Oakton

Both scenarios are plausible.

I don't understand why we can't just keep middle school the same. Why does Oak Hill have to move to Carson? Why can't they just stay at Franklin, while Fox Mill and Crossfield stay at Carson?

One way or another, Oak Hill kids are changing MSs. A large number of Oak Hill kids attend Carson through the AAP program. When the AAP Center goes away, those kids will revert to Franklin. The Oak Hill to Carson move moves the rest of Oak Hill to Carson and ends a split feeder situation into Skyview. All the kids attending Skyview would be at the same MS. Crossfield moves to Franklin, joining other ES that feed into Oakton. It is an actual logical move for the County to make. I know that there are Oak Hill families that are walking distance to Franklin, I know some of those families, so I understand why it is not ideal but there are also Oak Hill families that are in walking distance to Carson if Carson allowed walkers.

But Franklin will still be a split feeder. Lees Corner will be there and they go to Chantilly. On one of the scenarios they have Crossfield coming to Franklin and going to Skyview. How does that make sense for Franklin??

It doesn't. Check the RIO website. They advocated for it on purpose because they want to be assigned to Franklin so that scenario wouldn't make sense. They view moving to Franklin as a way to lock them in at Oakton.

Yes I realize that but moving them to Franklin doesn’t solve the issue of split feeders as someone suggested. Lees Corner ES will still be at Franklin MS and now be the only ones going to Chantilly? That’s not fair.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why Crossfield has Franklin - Skyview in one scenario only? And why wouldn’t it be Carson - Skyview when Franklin is going to be an Oakton feeder? Make it make sense!

Because Crossfield to Skyview is not such an obvious choice.

The trip from Crossfield to Skyview would be much shorter than the current commute to Oakton, which is a valid point.

That said, if Crossfield switched to Franklin Middle and stayed at Oakton High, while Oak Hill switched to Carson Middle and Skyview, it would eliminate a split feeder pattern, another criteria.

Fox Mill is as close to Skyview as Crossfield is, if not closer

It appears that more Fox Mill families would send kids to Skyview than Crossfield families.

Community input isn’t everything, but it should carry weight.

But I agree that if Crossfield gets moved to Skyview, it should stay at Carson. That part doesn't make sense.

The difference is that Crossfield family have a much longer commute to Oakton than Fox Mill families have to South Lakes. It's comparative. We really need to alleviate the commute, therefore families like McNair, Coates, Floris, Crossfield who have 20+ drives to high school should be prioritized.

The distance/commute is not a sole criteria.

Reducing/elminating a split feeder pattern is also a criteria. And community feedback should matter too.

You're absolutely right. Fox Mill really should be moved to Hughes. Thank you.

Fox Mill to Hughes is not going to happen. It is only discussed on this board. Even Meren doesn't support it now.

The likely outcome is either

Fox Mill - Carson - SLHS / Crossfield - Carson - Skyview

or

Fox Mill - Carson - Skyview / Crossfield - Franklin - Oakton

Both scenarios are plausible.

I don't understand why we can't just keep middle school the same. Why does Oak Hill have to move to Carson? Why can't they just stay at Franklin, while Fox Mill and Crossfield stay at Carson?

One way or another, Oak Hill kids are changing MSs. A large number of Oak Hill kids attend Carson through the AAP program. When the AAP Center goes away, those kids will revert to Franklin. The Oak Hill to Carson move moves the rest of Oak Hill to Carson and ends a split feeder situation into Skyview. All the kids attending Skyview would be at the same MS. Crossfield moves to Franklin, joining other ES that feed into Oakton. It is an actual logical move for the County to make. I know that there are Oak Hill families that are walking distance to Franklin, I know some of those families, so I understand why it is not ideal but there are also Oak Hill families that are in walking distance to Carson if Carson allowed walkers.

But Franklin will still be a split feeder. Lees Corner will be there and they go to Chantilly. On one of the scenarios they have Crossfield coming to Franklin and going to Skyview. How does that make sense for Franklin??

It doesn't. Check the RIO website. They advocated for it on purpose because they want to be assigned to Franklin so that scenario wouldn't make sense. They view moving to Franklin as a way to lock them in at Oakton.

Both now and in the next boundary review cycle when Oakton is (still) overcrowded and they are still the farthest away, with South Lakes being the only school with room for them. Then they will use Franklin as their reasoning why they couldn't possibly be moved - although it will be overcrowded too when the AAP kids return so maybe they're the ones who end up at Hughes/SL instead of Fox Mill in this scenario. What a colossal self-own.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why Crossfield has Franklin - Skyview in one scenario only? And why wouldn’t it be Carson - Skyview when Franklin is going to be an Oakton feeder? Make it make sense!

Because Crossfield to Skyview is not such an obvious choice.

The trip from Crossfield to Skyview would be much shorter than the current commute to Oakton, which is a valid point.

That said, if Crossfield switched to Franklin Middle and stayed at Oakton High, while Oak Hill switched to Carson Middle and Skyview, it would eliminate a split feeder pattern, another criteria.

Fox Mill is as close to Skyview as Crossfield is, if not closer

It appears that more Fox Mill families would send kids to Skyview than Crossfield families.

Community input isn’t everything, but it should carry weight.

But I agree that if Crossfield gets moved to Skyview, it should stay at Carson. That part doesn't make sense.

The difference is that Crossfield family have a much longer commute to Oakton than Fox Mill families have to South Lakes. It's comparative. We really need to alleviate the commute, therefore families like McNair, Coates, Floris, Crossfield who have 20+ drives to high school should be prioritized.

The distance/commute is not a sole criteria.

Reducing/elminating a split feeder pattern is also a criteria. And community feedback should matter too.

You're absolutely right. Fox Mill really should be moved to Hughes. Thank you.

Fox Mill to Hughes is not going to happen. It is only discussed on this board. Even Meren doesn't support it now.

The likely outcome is either

Fox Mill - Carson - SLHS / Crossfield - Carson - Skyview

or

Fox Mill - Carson - Skyview / Crossfield - Franklin - Oakton

Both scenarios are plausible.

I don't understand why we can't just keep middle school the same. Why does Oak Hill have to move to Carson? Why can't they just stay at Franklin, while Fox Mill and Crossfield stay at Carson?

One way or another, Oak Hill kids are changing MSs. A large number of Oak Hill kids attend Carson through the AAP program. When the AAP Center goes away, those kids will revert to Franklin. The Oak Hill to Carson move moves the rest of Oak Hill to Carson and ends a split feeder situation into Skyview. All the kids attending Skyview would be at the same MS. Crossfield moves to Franklin, joining other ES that feed into Oakton. It is an actual logical move for the County to make. I know that there are Oak Hill families that are walking distance to Franklin, I know some of those families, so I understand why it is not ideal but there are also Oak Hill families that are in walking distance to Carson if Carson allowed walkers.

But Franklin will still be a split feeder. Lees Corner will be there and they go to Chantilly. On one of the scenarios they have Crossfield coming to Franklin and going to Skyview. How does that make sense for Franklin??

It doesn't. Check the RIO website. They advocated for it on purpose because they want to be assigned to Franklin so that scenario wouldn't make sense. They view moving to Franklin as a way to lock them in at Oakton.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why Crossfield has Franklin - Skyview in one scenario only? And why wouldn’t it be Carson - Skyview when Franklin is going to be an Oakton feeder? Make it make sense!

Because Crossfield to Skyview is not such an obvious choice.

The trip from Crossfield to Skyview would be much shorter than the current commute to Oakton, which is a valid point.

That said, if Crossfield switched to Franklin Middle and stayed at Oakton High, while Oak Hill switched to Carson Middle and Skyview, it would eliminate a split feeder pattern, another criteria.

Fox Mill is as close to Skyview as Crossfield is, if not closer

It appears that more Fox Mill families would send kids to Skyview than Crossfield families.

Community input isn’t everything, but it should carry weight.

But I agree that if Crossfield gets moved to Skyview, it should stay at Carson. That part doesn't make sense.

The difference is that Crossfield family have a much longer commute to Oakton than Fox Mill families have to South Lakes. It's comparative. We really need to alleviate the commute, therefore families like McNair, Coates, Floris, Crossfield who have 20+ drives to high school should be prioritized.

The distance/commute is not a sole criteria.

Reducing/elminating a split feeder pattern is also a criteria. And community feedback should matter too.

You're absolutely right. Fox Mill really should be moved to Hughes. Thank you.

Fox Mill to Hughes is not going to happen. It is only discussed on this board. Even Meren doesn't support it now.

The likely outcome is either

Fox Mill - Carson - SLHS / Crossfield - Carson - Skyview

or

Fox Mill - Carson - Skyview / Crossfield - Franklin - Oakton

Both scenarios are plausible.

I don't understand why we can't just keep middle school the same. Why does Oak Hill have to move to Carson? Why can't they just stay at Franklin, while Fox Mill and Crossfield stay at Carson?

One way or another, Oak Hill kids are changing MSs. A large number of Oak Hill kids attend Carson through the AAP program. When the AAP Center goes away, those kids will revert to Franklin. The Oak Hill to Carson move moves the rest of Oak Hill to Carson and ends a split feeder situation into Skyview. All the kids attending Skyview would be at the same MS. Crossfield moves to Franklin, joining other ES that feed into Oakton. It is an actual logical move for the County to make. I know that there are Oak Hill families that are walking distance to Franklin, I know some of those families, so I understand why it is not ideal but there are also Oak Hill families that are in walking distance to Carson if Carson allowed walkers.

But Franklin will still be a split feeder. Lees Corner will be there and they go to Chantilly. On one of the scenarios they have Crossfield coming to Franklin and going to Skyview. How does that make sense for Franklin??

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why Crossfield has Franklin - Skyview in one scenario only? And why wouldn’t it be Carson - Skyview when Franklin is going to be an Oakton feeder? Make it make sense!

Because Crossfield to Skyview is not such an obvious choice.

The trip from Crossfield to Skyview would be much shorter than the current commute to Oakton, which is a valid point.

That said, if Crossfield switched to Franklin Middle and stayed at Oakton High, while Oak Hill switched to Carson Middle and Skyview, it would eliminate a split feeder pattern, another criteria.

Fox Mill is as close to Skyview as Crossfield is, if not closer

It appears that more Fox Mill families would send kids to Skyview than Crossfield families.

Community input isn’t everything, but it should carry weight.

But I agree that if Crossfield gets moved to Skyview, it should stay at Carson. That part doesn't make sense.

Closer != faster.

Left turns, stop light timing, number of stops lights, speed limits, traffic density, propensity for accidents and the like.

That's just too simplistic.

I live in Franklin Farm. Trust me when I tell you it is far safer for a teen to drive from my neighborhood to Skyview (big, wide open roads, maybe 5 stop lights total and really only one left turn) than it is for them to drive on narrow windy roads with a ton of blind spots to get to Oakton.

Um, your kid can....
get on west ox (nice big road), then get on rt 50 (nice big road), get on i66 (nice big road), get off on 123 (nice big road) , then get on germantown (nice big road).

Each of these roads is at least 2 lanes in each direction....

They're not required to go on fox mill, whaples mill, or bennet.

66 is a HIGHWAY. It gets backed up, merging is insane. I know this, I do this every. signal. day. I see fender benders on 66 at least twice a month.

Old enough to remember when 2 Oakton students were killed on it 50 on the way home from 2nd day of school.

Unfortunately, HS drivers are killed on wide roads with 35 mile an hour speed limits because HS drivers are less experienced and more prone to making poor decisions regarding speed.

And in all honesty, seeing a few fender benders a month is not really that big a deal, they are a relativly rare event given the amount of traffic on the road. I am not saying that the distance and road conditions are a reason to move or not move but I don't think that the likelihood of an accident or event with teenagers involved changes that much. Teens are already at a far higher risk for accidents regardless of where they are driving.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why Crossfield has Franklin - Skyview in one scenario only? And why wouldn’t it be Carson - Skyview when Franklin is going to be an Oakton feeder? Make it make sense!

Because Crossfield to Skyview is not such an obvious choice.

The trip from Crossfield to Skyview would be much shorter than the current commute to Oakton, which is a valid point.

That said, if Crossfield switched to Franklin Middle and stayed at Oakton High, while Oak Hill switched to Carson Middle and Skyview, it would eliminate a split feeder pattern, another criteria.

Fox Mill is as close to Skyview as Crossfield is, if not closer

It appears that more Fox Mill families would send kids to Skyview than Crossfield families.

Community input isn’t everything, but it should carry weight.

But I agree that if Crossfield gets moved to Skyview, it should stay at Carson. That part doesn't make sense.

The difference is that Crossfield family have a much longer commute to Oakton than Fox Mill families have to South Lakes. It's comparative. We really need to alleviate the commute, therefore families like McNair, Coates, Floris, Crossfield who have 20+ drives to high school should be prioritized.

The distance/commute is not a sole criteria.

Reducing/elminating a split feeder pattern is also a criteria. And community feedback should matter too.

You're absolutely right. Fox Mill really should be moved to Hughes. Thank you.

Fox Mill to Hughes is not going to happen. It is only discussed on this board. Even Meren doesn't support it now.

The likely outcome is either

Fox Mill - Carson - SLHS / Crossfield - Carson - Skyview

or

Fox Mill - Carson - Skyview / Crossfield - Franklin - Oakton

Both scenarios are plausible.

I don't understand why we can't just keep middle school the same. Why does Oak Hill have to move to Carson? Why can't they just stay at Franklin, while Fox Mill and Crossfield stay at Carson?

One way or another, Oak Hill kids are changing MSs. A large number of Oak Hill kids attend Carson through the AAP program. When the AAP Center goes away, those kids will revert to Franklin. The Oak Hill to Carson move moves the rest of Oak Hill to Carson and ends a split feeder situation into Skyview. All the kids attending Skyview would be at the same MS. Crossfield moves to Franklin, joining other ES that feed into Oakton. It is an actual logical move for the County to make. I know that there are Oak Hill families that are walking distance to Franklin, I know some of those families, so I understand why it is not ideal but there are also Oak Hill families that are in walking distance to Carson if Carson allowed walkers.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why Crossfield has Franklin - Skyview in one scenario only? And why wouldn’t it be Carson - Skyview when Franklin is going to be an Oakton feeder? Make it make sense!

Because Crossfield to Skyview is not such an obvious choice.

The trip from Crossfield to Skyview would be much shorter than the current commute to Oakton, which is a valid point.

That said, if Crossfield switched to Franklin Middle and stayed at Oakton High, while Oak Hill switched to Carson Middle and Skyview, it would eliminate a split feeder pattern, another criteria.

Fox Mill is as close to Skyview as Crossfield is, if not closer

It appears that more Fox Mill families would send kids to Skyview than Crossfield families.

Community input isn’t everything, but it should carry weight.

But I agree that if Crossfield gets moved to Skyview, it should stay at Carson. That part doesn't make sense.

Closer != faster.

Left turns, stop light timing, number of stops lights, speed limits, traffic density, propensity for accidents and the like.

That's just too simplistic.

I live in Franklin Farm. Trust me when I tell you it is far safer for a teen to drive from my neighborhood to Skyview (big, wide open roads, maybe 5 stop lights total and really only one left turn) than it is for them to drive on narrow windy roads with a ton of blind spots to get to Oakton.

Um, your kid can....
get on west ox (nice big road), then get on rt 50 (nice big road), get on i66 (nice big road), get off on 123 (nice big road) , then get on germantown (nice big road).

Each of these roads is at least 2 lanes in each direction....

They're not required to go on fox mill, whaples mill, or bennet.

66 is a HIGHWAY. It gets backed up, merging is insane. I know this, I do this every. signal. day. I see fender benders on 66 at least twice a month.

Old enough to remember when 2 Oakton students were killed on it 50 on the way home from 2nd day of school.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why Crossfield has Franklin - Skyview in one scenario only? And why wouldn’t it be Carson - Skyview when Franklin is going to be an Oakton feeder? Make it make sense!

Because Crossfield to Skyview is not such an obvious choice.

The trip from Crossfield to Skyview would be much shorter than the current commute to Oakton, which is a valid point.

That said, if Crossfield switched to Franklin Middle and stayed at Oakton High, while Oak Hill switched to Carson Middle and Skyview, it would eliminate a split feeder pattern, another criteria.

Fox Mill is as close to Skyview as Crossfield is, if not closer

It appears that more Fox Mill families would send kids to Skyview than Crossfield families.

Community input isn’t everything, but it should carry weight.

But I agree that if Crossfield gets moved to Skyview, it should stay at Carson. That part doesn't make sense.

The difference is that Crossfield family have a much longer commute to Oakton than Fox Mill families have to South Lakes. It's comparative. We really need to alleviate the commute, therefore families like McNair, Coates, Floris, Crossfield who have 20+ drives to high school should be prioritized.

The distance/commute is not a sole criteria.

Reducing/elminating a split feeder pattern is also a criteria. And community feedback should matter too.

You're absolutely right. Fox Mill really should be moved to Hughes. Thank you.

Fox Mill to Hughes is not going to happen. It is only discussed on this board. Even Meren doesn't support it now.

The likely outcome is either

Fox Mill - Carson - SLHS / Crossfield - Carson - Skyview

or

Fox Mill - Carson - Skyview / Crossfield - Franklin - Oakton

Both scenarios are plausible.

I don't understand why we can't just keep middle school the same. Why does Oak Hill have to move to Carson? Why can't they just stay at Franklin, while Fox Mill and Crossfield stay at Carson?

Because Carson is going to feed into Skyview. And Crossfield has a deal with the consultants to not be moved to Skyview. Therefore they will not place Crossfield at Carson anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why Crossfield has Franklin - Skyview in one scenario only? And why wouldn’t it be Carson - Skyview when Franklin is going to be an Oakton feeder? Make it make sense!

Because Crossfield to Skyview is not such an obvious choice.

The trip from Crossfield to Skyview would be much shorter than the current commute to Oakton, which is a valid point.

That said, if Crossfield switched to Franklin Middle and stayed at Oakton High, while Oak Hill switched to Carson Middle and Skyview, it would eliminate a split feeder pattern, another criteria.

Fox Mill is as close to Skyview as Crossfield is, if not closer

It appears that more Fox Mill families would send kids to Skyview than Crossfield families.

Community input isn’t everything, but it should carry weight.

But I agree that if Crossfield gets moved to Skyview, it should stay at Carson. That part doesn't make sense.

The difference is that Crossfield family have a much longer commute to Oakton than Fox Mill families have to South Lakes. It's comparative. We really need to alleviate the commute, therefore families like McNair, Coates, Floris, Crossfield who have 20+ drives to high school should be prioritized.

The distance/commute is not a sole criteria.

Reducing/elminating a split feeder pattern is also a criteria. And community feedback should matter too.

You're absolutely right. Fox Mill really should be moved to Hughes. Thank you.

No dog in this fight, but people who flippantly push for other people’s kids to move schools are just the worst. I absolutely hope you have a horrible day.

You're all doing the same thing.

Nope, I’ve never advocated for anyone to move anywhere against their will. I think that the school board has taken its eye off the things that matter over the last couple of years with unnecessary boundary changes.

Families should only be moved when absolutely necessary.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why Crossfield has Franklin - Skyview in one scenario only? And why wouldn’t it be Carson - Skyview when Franklin is going to be an Oakton feeder? Make it make sense!

Because Crossfield to Skyview is not such an obvious choice.

The trip from Crossfield to Skyview would be much shorter than the current commute to Oakton, which is a valid point.

That said, if Crossfield switched to Franklin Middle and stayed at Oakton High, while Oak Hill switched to Carson Middle and Skyview, it would eliminate a split feeder pattern, another criteria.

Fox Mill is as close to Skyview as Crossfield is, if not closer

It appears that more Fox Mill families would send kids to Skyview than Crossfield families.

Community input isn’t everything, but it should carry weight.

But I agree that if Crossfield gets moved to Skyview, it should stay at Carson. That part doesn't make sense.

Closer != faster.

Left turns, stop light timing, number of stops lights, speed limits, traffic density, propensity for accidents and the like.

That's just too simplistic.

I live in Franklin Farm. Trust me when I tell you it is far safer for a teen to drive from my neighborhood to Skyview (big, wide open roads, maybe 5 stop lights total and really only one left turn) than it is for them to drive on narrow windy roads with a ton of blind spots to get to Oakton.

Um, your kid can....
get on west ox (nice big road), then get on rt 50 (nice big road), get on i66 (nice big road), get off on 123 (nice big road) , then get on germantown (nice big road).

Each of these roads is at least 2 lanes in each direction....

They're not required to go on fox mill, whaples mill, or bennet.

66 is a HIGHWAY. It gets backed up, merging is insane. I know this, I do this every. signal. day. I see fender benders on 66 at least twice a month.