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Anonymous wrote:Her father is presumably 85+ years old, no?

He personally got her conviction thrown out on appeal in 2019.

The PR spin that her family tried and tried to get her help and are glad she is in custody is BS. In 2019 she could have received court mandated treatment, incarceration and possible placement on a registry. Family literally personally had the conviction reversed. Their actions suggest, rather, narcissism and possible abuse of E that lead to another round of multigenerational abuse. Even now her father offered to be her custodian. SICK, and it did not start with her in all likelihood.

But her previous arrest was just for having sex in a park. Is that really a red flag for needing treatment? Lots of people like to have sex in “exotic” locations. I remember back in the 90’s, the “what’s the weirdest place you’ve ever had sex?” Was a common topic.

It’s cliché to say hindsight is 20/20, but so true. I think most if not all families with means and influence will wield it to protect a loved one, and hope and believe that THIS is the turning point, THIS is the moment that they will make a change. What parent wouldn’t try to work out a community service deal for their teen who shoplifted or a kid who got caught with a fake id? The instinct not to ruin your loved one’s future by snowplowing legal troubles out of the way overrides any idea of sitting back and allowing natural consequences. And it does work sometimes - I have a few friends from high school, whose parents quashed underage drinking and event dui charges and now the kids are normal law abiding adults.

I agree with you mostly except that her 2019 arrest she was 41 and married w kids. That’s different than a parent bailing out a teenager who shoplifted or a college age student caught w fake id.

Ok, but that’s a sign that the marriage is in trouble, not a sign that she has mental health issues.

A 41 year old married woman with 2 kids and a St. Catherine's and UVA grad whose husband is a judge having public sex while undressed in a park in the afternoon?! That is very extreme behavior.!

Of course it’s extreme, but it’s only a sign that she’s sexually adventurous, which isn’t a mental health issue. It’s not a sign that she wants to have sex with children.

Anonymous wrote:I want to know who abused her. No way in hell she hasn’t been a victim of sex abuse, probably both as a minor and an adult.

Mental illness + MS + history of sex abuse = ticking bomb

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Anonymous wrote:I sometimes get accused of being anti-woman on DCUM, but I’ll take the other side here: I thought this type of deviant behavior was exclusively the purview of men. When did women start doing stuff like this??

I think women have always done this kind of stuff, but less often than men and they tend to do it with a partner vs. just being a random flasher like a man would do. As mentioned upthread, bipolar is associated with sexual risk taking and so is borderline personality disorder. Reminds me of Angelina Jolie’s character in Girl Interrupted. Certainly not an excuse and she deserves prison and legal consequences for this. But definitely an explaining factor.

In Girl Interrupted, it was Winona Ryder's character, Susannah, that was sexually promiscuous-had an affair with an older married man, was intimate with one of the orderlies at the mental hospital, etc. Angelina Jolie's character didn't do anything sexual (at least in the movie. I didn't read the book so I don't know if that's different--but since you specifically mention Angelina Jolie's character I assume you are referring specifically to the movie.)

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Anonymous wrote:I sometimes get accused of being anti-woman on DCUM, but I’ll take the other side here: I thought this type of deviant behavior was exclusively the purview of men. When did women start doing stuff like this??

I think women have always done this kind of stuff, but less often than men and they tend to do it with a partner vs. just being a random flasher like a man would do. As mentioned upthread, bipolar is associated with sexual risk taking and so is borderline personality disorder. Reminds me of Angelina Jolie’s character in Girl Interrupted. Certainly not an excuse and she deserves prison and legal consequences for this. But definitely an explaining factor.

Anonymous wrote:I sometimes get accused of being anti-woman on DCUM, but I’ll take the other side here: I thought this type of deviant behavior was exclusively the purview of men. When did women start doing stuff like this??

Anonymous wrote:I sometimes get accused of being anti-woman on DCUM, but I’ll take the other side here: I thought this type of deviant behavior was exclusively the purview of men. When did women start doing stuff like this??

Anonymous wrote:I want to know who abused her. No way in hell she hasn’t been a victim of sex abuse, probably both as a minor and an adult.

Mental illness + MS + history of sex abuse = ticking bomb

Anonymous wrote:I sometimes get accused of being anti-woman on DCUM, but I’ll take the other side here: I thought this type of deviant behavior was exclusively the purview of men. When did women start doing stuff like this??

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Anonymous wrote:Her father is presumably 85+ years old, no?

He personally got her conviction thrown out on appeal in 2019.

The PR spin that her family tried and tried to get her help and are glad she is in custody is BS. In 2019 she could have received court mandated treatment, incarceration and possible placement on a registry. Family literally personally had the conviction reversed. Their actions suggest, rather, narcissism and possible abuse of E that lead to another round of multigenerational abuse. Even now her father offered to be her custodian. SICK, and it did not start with her in all likelihood.

But her previous arrest was just for having sex in a park. Is that really a red flag for needing treatment? Lots of people like to have sex in “exotic” locations. I remember back in the 90’s, the “what’s the weirdest place you’ve ever had sex?” Was a common topic.

It’s cliché to say hindsight is 20/20, but so true. I think most if not all families with means and influence will wield it to protect a loved one, and hope and believe that THIS is the turning point, THIS is the moment that they will make a change. What parent wouldn’t try to work out a community service deal for their teen who shoplifted or a kid who got caught with a fake id? The instinct not to ruin your loved one’s future by snowplowing legal troubles out of the way overrides any idea of sitting back and allowing natural consequences. And it does work sometimes - I have a few friends from high school, whose parents quashed underage drinking and event dui charges and now the kids are normal law abiding adults.

I agree with you mostly except that her 2019 arrest she was 41 and married w kids. That’s different than a parent bailing out a teenager who shoplifted or a college age student caught w fake id.

Ok, but that’s a sign that the marriage is in trouble, not a sign that she has mental health issues.

A 41 year old married woman with 2 kids and a St. Catherine's and UVA grad whose husband is a judge having public sex while undressed in a park in the afternoon?! That is very extreme behavior.!

Of course it’s extreme, but it’s only a sign that she’s sexually adventurous, which isn’t a mental health issue. It’s not a sign that she wants to have sex with children.

"Sexually adventurous" 🙄 is a pathetic understatement of what occurred.

I’ was referring to her 2019 arrest for sex in the park.

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Anonymous wrote:Her father is presumably 85+ years old, no?

He personally got her conviction thrown out on appeal in 2019.

The PR spin that her family tried and tried to get her help and are glad she is in custody is BS. In 2019 she could have received court mandated treatment, incarceration and possible placement on a registry. Family literally personally had the conviction reversed. Their actions suggest, rather, narcissism and possible abuse of E that lead to another round of multigenerational abuse. Even now her father offered to be her custodian. SICK, and it did not start with her in all likelihood.

But her previous arrest was just for having sex in a park. Is that really a red flag for needing treatment? Lots of people like to have sex in “exotic” locations. I remember back in the 90’s, the “what’s the weirdest place you’ve ever had sex?” Was a common topic.

It’s cliché to say hindsight is 20/20, but so true. I think most if not all families with means and influence will wield it to protect a loved one, and hope and believe that THIS is the turning point, THIS is the moment that they will make a change. What parent wouldn’t try to work out a community service deal for their teen who shoplifted or a kid who got caught with a fake id? The instinct not to ruin your loved one’s future by snowplowing legal troubles out of the way overrides any idea of sitting back and allowing natural consequences. And it does work sometimes - I have a few friends from high school, whose parents quashed underage drinking and event dui charges and now the kids are normal law abiding adults.

I agree with you mostly except that her 2019 arrest she was 41 and married w kids. That’s different than a parent bailing out a teenager who shoplifted or a college age student caught w fake id.

Ok, but that’s a sign that the marriage is in trouble, not a sign that she has mental health issues.

I'm in the camp that is was both. I don't think we have any idea how long she was having issues/how long that has been known to her family. Obviously, what she's been arrested for now is a lot more serious than her 2019 arrest. I could barely read that daily mail article. Stomach turning.

Agree. It's been posted a few places that she has bipolar and hypersexuality is a common component. Maybe in college her behavior was normalized. Later, untreated bipolar combined with porn and sex addiction and is more about acting out and about one not being able to be in a stable marriage because of that. Per the DM she also brought a sex partner to the marital home when young kids were present. Likely less about the husband and more about her illness. She may also be acting out csa, hypersexuality and repetition compulsion can be components for some.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Her father is presumably 85+ years old, no?

He personally got her conviction thrown out on appeal in 2019.

The PR spin that her family tried and tried to get her help and are glad she is in custody is BS. In 2019 she could have received court mandated treatment, incarceration and possible placement on a registry. Family literally personally had the conviction reversed. Their actions suggest, rather, narcissism and possible abuse of E that lead to another round of multigenerational abuse. Even now her father offered to be her custodian. SICK, and it did not start with her in all likelihood.

But her previous arrest was just for having sex in a park. Is that really a red flag for needing treatment? Lots of people like to have sex in “exotic” locations. I remember back in the 90’s, the “what’s the weirdest place you’ve ever had sex?” Was a common topic.

It’s cliché to say hindsight is 20/20, but so true. I think most if not all families with means and influence will wield it to protect a loved one, and hope and believe that THIS is the turning point, THIS is the moment that they will make a change. What parent wouldn’t try to work out a community service deal for their teen who shoplifted or a kid who got caught with a fake id? The instinct not to ruin your loved one’s future by snowplowing legal troubles out of the way overrides any idea of sitting back and allowing natural consequences. And it does work sometimes - I have a few friends from high school, whose parents quashed underage drinking and event dui charges and now the kids are normal law abiding adults.

I agree with you mostly except that her 2019 arrest she was 41 and married w kids. That’s different than a parent bailing out a teenager who shoplifted or a college age student caught w fake id.

Ok, but that’s a sign that the marriage is in trouble, not a sign that she has mental health issues.

I'm in the camp that is was both. I don't think we have any idea how long she was having issues/how long that has been known to her family. Obviously, what she's been arrested for now is a lot more serious than her 2019 arrest. I could barely read that daily mail article. Stomach turning.

Agree. It's been posted a few places that she has bipolar and hypersexuality is a common component. Maybe in college her behavior was normalized. Later, untreated bipolar combined with porn and sex addiction and is more about acting out and about one not being able to be in a stable marriage because of that. Per the DM she also brought a sex partner to the marital home when young kids were present. Likely less about the husband and more about her illness. She may also be acting out csa, hypersexuality and repetition compulsion can be components for some.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Her father is presumably 85+ years old, no?

He personally got her conviction thrown out on appeal in 2019.

The PR spin that her family tried and tried to get her help and are glad she is in custody is BS. In 2019 she could have received court mandated treatment, incarceration and possible placement on a registry. Family literally personally had the conviction reversed. Their actions suggest, rather, narcissism and possible abuse of E that lead to another round of multigenerational abuse. Even now her father offered to be her custodian. SICK, and it did not start with her in all likelihood.

But her previous arrest was just for having sex in a park. Is that really a red flag for needing treatment? Lots of people like to have sex in “exotic” locations. I remember back in the 90’s, the “what’s the weirdest place you’ve ever had sex?” Was a common topic.

It’s cliché to say hindsight is 20/20, but so true. I think most if not all families with means and influence will wield it to protect a loved one, and hope and believe that THIS is the turning point, THIS is the moment that they will make a change. What parent wouldn’t try to work out a community service deal for their teen who shoplifted or a kid who got caught with a fake id? The instinct not to ruin your loved one’s future by snowplowing legal troubles out of the way overrides any idea of sitting back and allowing natural consequences. And it does work sometimes - I have a few friends from high school, whose parents quashed underage drinking and event dui charges and now the kids are normal law abiding adults.

I agree with you mostly except that her 2019 arrest she was 41 and married w kids. That’s different than a parent bailing out a teenager who shoplifted or a college age student caught w fake id.

Ok, but that’s a sign that the marriage is in trouble, not a sign that she has mental health issues.

A 41 year old married woman with 2 kids and a St. Catherine's and UVA grad whose husband is a judge having public sex while undressed in a park in the afternoon?! That is very extreme behavior.!

Of course it’s extreme, but it’s only a sign that she’s sexually adventurous, which isn’t a mental health issue. It’s not a sign that she wants to have sex with children.

"Sexually adventurous" 🙄 is a pathetic understatement of what occurred.